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14:06:28 <kaz> meeting: WoT-WG - TD-TF
14:06:58 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Ege_Korkan, Daniel_Peintner
14:08:24 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Thing_Description_WebConf#April_26.2C_2023
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14:14:06 <kaz> present+ Sebastian_Kaebisch, Luca_Barbato
14:18:57 <kaz> topic: Organization
14:19:13 <kaz> sk: given less participation, let's review editorial issues on TD
14:19:33 <kaz> ... based on the previous decision, Ege can still moderate the call today
14:19:37 <kaz> topic: Mintues
14:20:01 <kaz> s/Mintues/Minutes/
14:20:12 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2023/04/12-wot-td-minutes.html Apr-12
14:20:48 <kaz> ek: (goes through the minutes)
14:21:35 <kaz> approved
14:22:41 <kaz> topic: Next week
14:22:57 <kaz> ek: we need to discuss how to moderate the TD TF again
14:22:58 <kaz> q+
14:23:33 <kaz> kaz: will there be a TD call next Wednesday?
14:24:44 <kaz> sk: we confirmed we wouldn't have no TF calls except the Test call
14:25:00 <kaz> present+ Jan_Romann
14:25:08 <kaz> ek: ok
14:28:11 <kaz> ... what about May 9th?
14:28:18 <kaz> sk: not clear...
14:28:48 <kaz> ek: to be decided but can be cancelled due to the AC meeting
14:29:18 <kaz> ... then May 16?
14:30:02 <kaz> ... will decide on the TF moderator
14:30:16 <kaz> ... Ege still can prepare the agenda for May 16
14:30:32 <kaz> topic: TPAC 2023
14:30:58 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf/2023_WoT_TPAC_Agenda TPAC WoT wiki
14:31:15 <kaz> ek: topics for TD is being identified
14:31:41 <kaz> [[
14:31:42 <kaz> JSON-LD Collaboration
14:31:42 <kaz> Canonicalization
14:31:42 <kaz> Restricting prefixes for JSON (no JSON-LD) parsers
14:31:42 <kaz> Linting: Maybe needs discussion with JSON-LD
14:31:42 <kaz> Showing planned activity
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14:31:44 <kaz> ]]
14:31:49 <kaz> ek: anything to be added?
14:31:52 <kaz> (none at the moment)
14:32:18 <kaz> topic: Binding
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14:33:39 <kaz> subtopic: PR 283
14:33:57 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/pull/283 PR 283 - Subprotocol improvements
14:34:03 <kaz> ek: any comments/objections?
14:34:05 <kaz> (none)
14:34:07 <kaz> merged
14:34:30 <kaz> subtopic: PR 285
14:34:53 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/pull/285 PR 285 - Some very minor editorial issues
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14:35:23 <kaz> ek: any objections?
14:35:27 <kaz> (none)
14:35:29 <kaz> merged
14:36:16 <kaz> subtopic: PR 286
14:37:02 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/pull/286 PR 286 - Fix Editorial issues and examples #286
14:37:09 <kaz> s/ #286//
14:37:13 <kaz> rrsagent, make log publi
14:37:19 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
14:37:26 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:37:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/04/26-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
14:38:35 <kaz> ek: (go through the preview)
14:38:52 <kaz> q+
14:39:03 <kaz> ack k
14:39:13 <kaz> kaz: have you talked with Koster about this change?
14:39:18 <kaz> ek: not yet
14:39:27 <kaz> ... so can postpone this
14:39:59 <kaz> ... will ping Koster and Cristiano as the co-Editors
14:41:09 <sebastian_> q+
14:41:11 <kaz> subtopic: PR 288
14:41:22 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/pull/288 PR 288 - Make XML Binding "planned"
14:41:29 <kaz> ack k
14:41:29 <kaz> ack s
14:41:35 <kaz> sk: the idea is removing the link?
14:41:48 <kaz> ... there is no work yet. right?
14:42:13 <kaz> ... would be better to have some draft idea there
14:42:33 <kaz> ... thought Taki and Daniel had been working on this topic for a while
14:43:04 <dape> q+
14:43:14 <kaz> q+
14:43:28 <kaz> dp: hasn't really used widely
14:43:52 <kaz> ... OK with either way, removing the link or saying work-in-place
14:44:09 <kaz> ack d
14:45:02 <kaz> ack k
14:45:15 <kaz> kaz: I'm also OK with either option
14:45:30 <kaz> ... but given the small participation today, we should talk about this next time
14:46:33 <kaz> subtopic: Publication
14:46:42 <kaz> ek: would like to talk about this next time
14:47:12 <kaz> topic: TD
14:47:20 <kaz> subtopic: Testfest feedback
14:48:32 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/blob/main/testing/atrisk.csv wot-thing-description/testing/atrisk.csv
14:48:46 <kaz> ek: (shows the latest atrisk.csv)
14:48:57 <kaz> sk: a bit surprised to see versioning still there
14:49:08 <kaz> ek: this CSV file is not completely updated...
14:49:34 <kaz> q+
14:50:00 <kaz> kaz: when can it be updated then?
14:50:09 <kaz> ... maybe after the Testfest tomorrow?
14:50:12 <kaz> ek: yeah
14:50:26 <kaz> ... can see the status today too
14:50:37 <kaz> s/status/latest status/
14:51:27 <kaz> subtopic: PR 1803
14:51:45 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1803 PR 1803 - Capitalize assertive keywords on assertive table
14:51:51 <kaz> q+
14:52:05 <kaz> ek: (shows the diff)
14:53:38 <kaz> kaz: we should use the RFC2119 style, shouldn't we?
14:53:51 <kaz> ek: the CSS Styling doesn't work within tables, it seems
14:54:01 <kaz> kaz: is that the case?
14:55:52 <kaz> [[
14:55:53 <kaz> <em class="rfc2119" title="SHOULD">SHOULD</em>
14:55:54 <kaz> ]]
14:59:20 <dape> q?
14:59:29 <kaz> ek: think ReSpec will automatically add the CSS styling
14:59:51 <kaz> kaz: anyway
15:00:30 <JKRhb> I think the relevant part of the ReSpec documentation can be found here: https://respec.org/docs/#conformance-section
15:00:32 <kaz> ... let's create an issue to handle this strange situation that some of the capitalized "SHOULD", etc., have "rfc2119" styling explicitly, and some don't.
15:01:10 <kaz> s|I think the relevant part of the ReSpec documentation can be found here: https://respec.org/docs/#conformance-section||
15:01:15 <kaz> jr: I think the relevant part of the ReSpec documentation can be found here: https://respec.org/docs/#conformance-section
15:01:32 <JKRhb> q+
15:01:58 <JKRhb> q-
15:02:00 <kaz> ack k
15:02:07 <kaz> subtopic: PR 1668
15:02:36 <kaz> s/1668/1801/
15:03:29 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1801 PR 1801 - Add producer to terminology|
15:03:35 <kaz> merged
15:03:40 <kaz> subtopic: PR 1800
15:04:06 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1800 PR 1800 - Mention apikey creation is only for object and arrays
15:04:41 <kaz> q+
15:05:10 <kaz> ack k
15:05:48 <kaz> kaz: don't see it as controversial, but would be better to get wider review than today
15:05:54 <kaz> ... since this is more than typo fix
15:05:56 <kaz> ek: ok
15:06:22 <kaz> subtopic: PR 1799
15:06:35 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1799 PR 1799 - Adapt op mapping ed note
15:06:55 <kaz> ek: changing "ednote" style to "note" style
15:07:06 <kaz> merged
15:07:29 <kaz> subtopic: PR 1796
15:08:10 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1796 PR 1796 - fix title for fadeOut action
15:08:14 <kaz> merged
15:08:31 <kaz> subtopic: PR 1790
15:08:33 <kaz> q?
15:08:51 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1790 PR 1790 - Editorial fixes for issue 1735
15:11:03 <kaz> q+
15:11:28 <kaz> ack k
15:11:47 <kaz> kaz: some of the changes are just removing "-" from "Thing-level"
15:12:09 <kaz> ... but some of the changes are kind of long and require some more reviews
15:12:11 <kaz> ek: ok
15:13:01 <kaz> subtopic: PR 1802
15:13:12 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1802 PR 1802 - Fix html checker errors
15:13:38 <kaz> q+
15:14:33 <kaz> kaz: this is fixing the problem pointed out by the HTML Validator. right?
15:14:35 <kaz> ek: right
15:17:06 <JKRhb> q+
15:17:08 <kaz> kaz: we need to apply these cleaning up to the draft before the Proposed REC publicaton
15:17:09 <kaz> ack k
15:18:08 <kaz> jr: seems there is some removal of text there...
15:20:01 <kaz> q+
15:21:31 <kaz> ack j
15:21:33 <kaz> ack k
15:21:44 <kaz> kaz: why didn't you simply used HTML Tidy for this purpose?
15:22:51 <JKRhb> q+
15:23:33 <kaz> kaz: would suggest we keep this open, and check the HTML with the result of Tidy as well
15:23:42 <kaz> ... I can help you for that purpose
15:24:13 <JKRhb> ack j
15:25:05 <kaz> ... the PR has conflicts as well
15:25:31 <kaz> ek: some problem with the TTL files as well
15:25:50 <kaz> ... which requires us manual edit
15:25:58 <kaz> s/some pro/note that some pro/
15:26:26 <kaz> subtopic: Issue 1798
15:27:21 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/1798 Issue 1798 - 2019 urls in the context file
15:27:47 <kaz> sk: we made a decision to use the 2019 location
15:28:49 <kaz> ... when we work on WoT 2.0, we can revisit the discussion on the policy around how to deal with the namespaces
15:29:31 <kaz> kaz: this is also bigger than editorial typo fix
15:29:39 <kaz> ... so should have further discussion next time
15:31:07 <kaz> sk: already generated an Issue around this
15:31:20 <kaz> [adjourned]
15:31:26 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
15:31:34 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:31:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/04/26-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
15:35:34 <kaz> chair: Ege
15:35:36 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:35:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/04/26-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
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