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12:49:46 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
12:49:46 <janina> zakim, who's here?
12:49:46 <Zakim> Present: janina, niklasegger, matatk, Roy, PaulG, Fredrik, Lionel_Wolberger, mike_beganyi
12:49:46 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, janina, Roy, kirkwood, MichaelC, ghurlbot, agendabot, Zakim, ada, Mike5Matrix, Github, ZoeBijl, slightlyoff, tink, Rachael, cwilso, jcraig
12:50:23 <janina> zakim, bye
12:50:23 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been janina, niklasegger, matatk, Roy, PaulG, Fredrik, Lionel_Wolberger, mike_beganyi
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12:50:24 <janina> zakim, who's here?
12:50:24 <Zakim> Present: (no one)
12:50:24 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, janina, Roy, kirkwood, MichaelC, ghurlbot, agendabot, ada, Mike5Matrix, Github, ZoeBijl, slightlyoff, tink, Rachael, cwilso, jcraig
12:50:39 <janina> agenda?
12:50:39 <janina> Chair:  Janina
12:50:39 <janina> agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
12:50:39 <janina> agenda+ TPAC 2023 Planning
12:50:39 <janina> agenda+ The Metaverse Collection
12:50:39 <janina> agenda+ New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
12:50:39 <janina> agenda+ Explicit Review Requests https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues
12:50:42 <janina> agenda+ A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
12:50:45 <janina> agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
12:50:48 <janina> agenda+ CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues
12:50:50 <janina> agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
12:50:52 <janina> agenda+ Task Force & Deliverables Updates
12:50:55 <janina> agenda+ Other Business
12:50:57 <janina> agenda+ be done
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13:54:19 <janina> agenda?
13:55:41 <janina> regrets: Gottfried_Zimmerman, Niklas_Egger, Lionel_Wolberger
13:56:26 <janina> regrets+ Susana_Pallero
14:00:12 <Roy> present+
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14:02:17 <Fredrik> present+
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14:03:31 <matatk> scribe+ matatk
14:03:34 <matatk> zakim, next item
14:03:34 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from janina]
14:03:35 <mike_beganyi> mike_beganyi has joined #apa
14:03:40 <mike_beganyi> present+
14:03:50 <matatk> agenda?
14:03:59 <matatk> q+
14:04:32 <janina> ack ma
14:05:54 <matatk> subtopic: GitHub Actions tracking
14:06:20 <matatk> matatk: There's a bot for that: https://w3c.github.io/GHURLBot/manual.html - looks promising; we plan to try it out in APA calls first.
14:06:43 <matatk> zakim, next item
14:06:43 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- TPAC 2023 Planning -- taken up [from janina]
14:06:48 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
14:06:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/04/12-apa-minutes.html matatk
14:07:59 <Roy> q+
14:08:19 <matatk> janina: Please let us know agenda items for TPAC, so we can arrange meetings with other groups.
14:08:51 <matatk> ... Thanks Pronunciation for the agenda you gave already. We also expect to want to talk with EPUB and others about blue sky work (some started up in RQTF, e.g. transcripts).
14:09:20 <matatk> ... We'd like to synchronize music scores with performances, for example.
14:09:42 <matatk> ... Please think about these cross-group conversations, and we can start developing agenda.
14:10:05 <janina> q?
14:10:07 <matatk> q+
14:10:08 <matatk> ack Roy
14:10:23 <Roy> https://www.w3.org/2023/09/TPAC/
14:10:48 <matatk> Roy: The TPAC home page now exists.
14:10:54 <matatk> janina: We will soon have our own APA planning page.
14:11:58 <matatk> ack me
14:12:17 <matatk> janina: TF co-ordinators: please add this as a standing agenda from now.
14:12:38 <matatk> matatk: Our ultimate deadline is the 7th of May, so we need broad strokes on who to meet, and topics, well before then.
14:12:42 <matatk> zakim, next item
14:12:42 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- The Metaverse Collection -- taken up [from janina]
14:13:28 <matatk> Minutes from last APA call on this: https://www.w3.org/2023/04/05-apa-minutes#t04
14:14:07 <matatk> janina: RQTF just discussed this, too: https://www.w3.org/2023/04/12-rqtf-minutes#t02
14:14:38 <matatk> janina: Previous week's RQTF minutes on it: https://www.w3.org/2023/04/05-rqtf-minutes#t05
14:15:15 <Fredrik> q+
14:15:58 <matatk> janina: XAUR, SAUR (has a specific section Jason highlighted), MAUR, NAUR, and Content Usable (we should send the Note version).
14:16:38 <matatk> q+
14:16:38 <matatk> ack Fredrik
14:16:38 <janina> https://www.w3.org/TR/coga-usable/
14:16:38 <matatk> Fredrik: I know it's at an early stage, but CTAUR also has relevant stuff.
14:16:50 <matatk> q+
14:16:57 <matatk> janina: CTAUR is at least FPWD.
14:17:15 <matatk> janina: Good idea Fredrik, if you think it's relevant.
14:18:20 <janina> SAUR especially: https://www.w3.org/TR/saur/■https://www.w3.org/TR/saur/#xr-environment-synchronization
14:18:52 <matatk> Fredrik: One of the big points of metaverse is collaboration, so many relevant situations will come up.
14:20:00 <matatk> matatk: RAUR too? I can imagine having a Skype [or similar] call inside of a virtual environment.
14:21:08 <matatk> Fredrik: +1
14:21:26 <matatk> matatk: Accessibility of Remote Meetings? Because if people are sharing content, they need to know how to make it accessible.
14:22:05 <matatk> Fredrik: Yes, in the sense of how people use the tech, rather than the related CTUAR, which is more about the technical aspects.
14:22:39 <matatk> q?
14:24:12 <matatk> action matatk: Post Metaverse-related standards reply - due 2023-04-14
14:24:21 <ghurlbot> Created -> action #321 https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/321
14:25:38 <Fredrik> Hooray! But what does RRSAgent need to recognize it for?
14:25:59 <matatk> q?
14:26:02 <matatk> zakim, next item
14:26:02 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, matatk
14:26:06 <matatk> ack me
14:26:07 <matatk> zakim, next item
14:26:07 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22 -- taken up [from janina]
14:26:32 <matatk> Roy: No new Charters, nor TR, nor review requests, this week.
14:26:42 <matatk> zakim close this item
14:26:50 <matatk> zakim, close this item
14:26:50 <Zakim> agendum 4 closed
14:26:51 <Zakim> I see 8 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:26:51 <Zakim> 5. Explicit Review Requests https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues [from janina]
14:26:54 <matatk> zakim, close item 5
14:26:54 <Zakim> agendum 5, Explicit Review Requests https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues, closed
14:26:56 <Zakim> I see 7 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:26:56 <Zakim> 6. A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review [from janina]
14:26:58 <matatk> zakim, next item
14:26:59 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review -- taken up [from janina]
14:27:03 <Roy> subtopic: Consider allowing <hr>within list elements (ol, ul, menu)
14:27:04 <Roy> -   issue: https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/9126
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14:29:26 <PaulG> Present+
14:29:49 <matatk> janina: Should we ask the Low Vision TF?
14:29:51 <matatk> Fredrik: Yes
14:30:01 <matatk> matatk: Can mike_beganyi have a look too?
14:30:04 <matatk> mike_beganyi: Yes
14:30:20 <matatk> Fredrik: Could this be a COGA issue?
14:30:32 <matatk> janina: Not sure, but a lot of things could be.
14:30:47 <matatk> janina: Is anyone confused by having these divisions; does it clutter things up?
14:30:53 <matatk> janina: I can bring it up in the COGA planning call.
14:34:18 <matatk> zakim, close this item
14:34:18 <Zakim> agendum 6 closed
14:34:18 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:34:18 <Zakim> 7. new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html [from janina]
14:34:18 <matatk> zakim, close item 7
14:34:18 <Zakim> agendum 7, new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html, closed
14:34:18 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:34:18 <Zakim> 8. CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues [from janina]
14:34:18 <matatk> zakim, next item
14:34:18 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues -- taken up [from janina]
14:34:46 <matatk> PaulG: One issue that was interesting; already resolved and I think they had the right resolution.
14:36:26 <matatk> PaulG:  [css-pseudo] Safari’s ::selection “wash” and UA tweaks to highlight colors #6853 - https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/6853
14:36:26 <ghurlbot> https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/6853 -> Issue 6853 [not found]
14:36:51 <matatk> PaulG: The resolution was to not follow Safari's differing approach on this, and to clarify the spec.
14:36:57 <matatk> zakim, next item
14:36:57 <Zakim> agendum 9 -- Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open -- taken up [from janina]
14:37:31 <matatk> janina: I guess we still call them actions, though this URI is incorrect :-)
14:40:24 <Roy> https://github.com/w3c/apa/labels/action
14:43:56 <matatk> matatk: We signed off on DID's charter, and asked about CAPTCHA.
14:44:15 <matatk> matatk: I will post (and cross-post to RQTF) for any new WoT issues. Existing issues were already posted to the lists.
14:44:15 <Roy> https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/376
14:44:29 <matatk> Roy: ^ there's the DID recharter link
14:44:33 <matatk> q?
14:44:36 <matatk> zakim, next item
14:44:36 <Zakim> agendum 10 -- Task Force & Deliverables Updates -- taken up [from janina]
14:44:55 <matatk> subtopic: Adapt
14:45:33 <matatk> janina: We have a guest presentation about an ontology/taxononmy based on a multi-year NSF-funded project about how children learn. This may inform some of our next steps with Adapt,
14:45:42 <matatk> ... and the adapt-* prefix we requested from WHATWG.
14:46:05 <matatk> Info that the project co-ordinator provided for us about the ontology work: https://bob-dlc.github.io/clipps/
14:46:30 <matatk> janina: If you'd like to be part of the presentation, let us know before Monday so we can add you to the call. It'll be at 10am Boston (same time as APA).
14:46:46 <matatk> subtopic: Other groups
14:47:04 <matatk> janina: Nothing specific that is new, but wanted to note that a lot of good work is going on.
14:49:33 <matatk> Adapt teleconf info link (you may need to ask us for access): https://www.w3.org/2017/08/telecon-info_adapt
14:49:44 <matatk> zakim, next item
14:49:44 <Zakim> agendum 11 -- Other Business -- taken up [from janina]
14:50:16 <matatk> s/(you may need to ask us for access)/(Roy says you should already have access; thanks for checking, Roy)/
14:50:23 <matatk> zakim, close this item
14:50:23 <Zakim> agendum 11 closed
14:50:24 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
14:50:24 <Zakim> 12. be done [from janina]
14:50:27 <matatk> zakim, next item
14:50:27 <Zakim> agendum 12 -- be done -- taken up [from janina]
14:53:34 <matatk> (Relvant to discussion about language: https://www.w3.org/International/articles/language-tags/ HT Adapt issue https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/240)
14:55:52 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
14:55:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/04/12-apa-minutes.html matatk
14:59:15 <janina> janina has changed the topic to: APA Weekly Teleconference; Wednesday 19 April at 1400Z
14:59:40 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
14:59:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/04/12-apa-minutes.html matatk
15:05:14 <matatk> regrets+ Gottfried
15:05:20 <matatk> regrets+ Niklas
15:05:37 <matatk> regrets+ Susana
15:05:43 <matatk> regrets+ Lionel
15:06:08 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
15:06:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/04/12-apa-minutes.html matatk
15:07:02 <matatk> regrets- Gottfried, Lionel, Susana, Niklas
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15:07:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/04/12-apa-minutes.html matatk
15:08:26 <matatk> present+ janina
15:08:28 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
15:08:29 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/04/12-apa-minutes.html matatk
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15:11:57 <matatk> action mike_beganyi: Review HTML list separators issue - due 2023-04-19
15:11:57 <ghurlbot> Cannot create action. Validation failed. Maybe mike_beganyi is not a valid user for w3c/apa?
15:52:25 <matatk> action mike_beganyi: Review HTML list separators issue - due 2023-04-19
15:52:26 <ghurlbot> Cannot create action. Validation failed. Maybe mike_beganyi is not a valid user for w3c/apa?