IRC log of wot-profile on 2023-04-05

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11:01:02 [kaz]

meeting: WoT Profile

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present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Ege_Korkan, Luca_Barbato, Tomoaki_Mizushima

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present+ Michael_Lagally

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chair: Lagally

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11:05:12 [luca_barbato]

scribenick: luca_barbato

11:06:10 [luca_barbato]

topic: Past Minutes Review

11:06:13 [kaz]

agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Profile_WebConf#Profile_-_April_5th.2C_2023

11:09:10 [kaz]

-> https://www.w3.org/2023/03/22-wot-profile-minutes.html Mar-22

11:09:42 [luca_barbato]

ml: Consensus?

11:09:57 [luca_barbato]

.. published

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(approved)

11:10:05 [kaz]

present+ Michael_McCool

11:10:19 [luca_barbato]

topic: Open Issues

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https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/issues/302

11:12:00 [luca_barbato]

subtopic: #302

11:12:24 [kaz]

s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/issues/302||

11:12:39 [luca_barbato]

The issue can be closed

11:12:46 [kaz]

i|The|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/issues/302 Issue 302 - Clarify the payload formats of read/write property|

11:12:54 [luca_barbato]

subtopic: #299

11:12:59 [Ege]

q+

11:14:55 [luca_barbato]

ege: We discussed about it, we need to add something to the profile spec

11:15:06 [luca_barbato]

.. a PR is open for it.

11:15:12 [kaz]

i|We dis|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/issues/299 Issue 299 - Contradiction with the Arch spec on protocol bindings|

11:15:19 [mlagally]

https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/issues/223

11:15:20 [kaz]

present+ Ryuichi_Matsukura

11:15:29 [luca_barbato]

subtopic: #223

11:15:45 [kaz]

s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/issues/223||

11:15:57 [luca_barbato]

ege: The example 48 should address it

11:16:00 [luca_barbato]

ml: Closed

11:16:06 [kaz]

i|The e|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/issues/223 Issue 223 - Example 46 is not about subscribeallevents|

11:16:11 [kaz]

rrsagent, make log public

11:16:18 [kaz]

rrsagent, draft minutes

11:16:19 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/04/05-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz

11:16:44 [luca_barbato]

subtopic: #213

11:18:05 [Ege]

q+

11:18:30 [luca_barbato]

ml: The linked PR is already a significant improvement

11:18:43 [kaz]

ack e

11:19:14 [kaz]

i|linked|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/issues/213 Issue 213 - Wrong place to use HTTP Baseline Profile|

11:19:43 [luca_barbato]

ege: Michael's last review is pending

11:19:58 [kaz]

i|Mich|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/297 related PR 297 - Revised Abstract and Introduction - fixes #115|

11:20:42 [luca_barbato]

ml: Is everybody happy with merging this PR ?

11:20:56 [luca_barbato]

mm: Let's merge it

11:21:53 [luca_barbato]

mm: Merged and Issue closed

11:22:05 [luca_barbato]

subtopic: #171

11:22:22 [luca_barbato]

ml: Outdated and to be closed

11:23:29 [luca_barbato]

subtopic: #299

11:23:41 [kaz]

i|Out|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/issues/171 Issue 171 - Identification of profiles|

11:23:42 [Ege]

q+

11:24:00 [kaz]

qq+ McCool

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q- Mc

11:24:32 [kaz]

-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/issues/299 Issue 299 - Contradiction with the Arch spec on protocol bindings

11:25:02 [kaz]

q+

11:25:52 [kaz]

ack e

11:27:50 [luca_barbato]

kaz: I cannot agree with Ben's position

11:28:29 [luca_barbato]

.. we need to refactor all the specifications, and do that in the new charter

11:29:19 [luca_barbato]

s/cannot//

11:29:21 [mlagally]

s/cannot//

11:29:34 [kaz]

rrsagent, draft minutes

11:29:35 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/04/05-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz

11:30:38 [luca_barbato]

ege: The pr linked is fixing a different problem

11:30:59 [kaz]

s/do that/we'll do that/

11:31:03 [kaz]

ack k

11:32:27 [kaz]

subtopic: #349

11:32:29 [kaz]

-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/issues/349 Issue 349 - Are all TD 1.1 assertions valid in all profiles?

11:33:14 [kaz]

-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/368 related PR 368 - Add TD assertion conformance

11:33:37 [luca_barbato]

ml: I support going with that PR

11:38:28 [luca_barbato]

<consensus&merged>

11:38:45 [kaz]

s/mer/PR368 mer/

11:39:19 [kaz]

<Issue 349 also closed>

11:39:26 [luca_barbato]

topic: Security-labeled issue

11:39:40 [luca_barbato]

mm: We'll discuss them in the wot-security

11:39:49 [kaz]

s/Security-labeled issue/#313/

11:40:17 [kaz]

i|We'll|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/issues/313 Issue 313 - Include the "auto" security scheme to the list of supported schemes|

11:40:43 [luca_barbato]

mm: but it conflicts with the work on wot-discovery that has higher priority

11:41:50 [luca_barbato]

mm: All the issues are all related and might be addressed in a single PR.

11:41:55 [kaz]

i|313|topic: Security-labeled issues|

11:42:11 [kaz]

s/topic: #313/subtopic: #313/

11:42:44 [luca_barbato]

subtopic: #348

11:42:46 [mlagally]

https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/issues/348

11:42:50 [kaz]

i|subtopic: #313|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/labels/security security issues|

11:43:09 [luca_barbato]

mm: it is related to formatting assertions

11:43:26 [luca_barbato]

.. the security issues have priority

11:43:59 [kaz]

s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/issues/348|-">https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/issues/348|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/issues/348 Issue 348 - Create sub-assertions for Keywords in the Links section|

11:44:34 [kaz]

rrsagent, draft minutes

11:44:35 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/04/05-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz

11:44:44 [kaz]

rrsagent, make log public

11:44:45 [luca_barbato]

q+

11:44:48 [kaz]

q+

11:45:12 [kaz]

rrsagent, make log public

11:45:15 [kaz]

rrsagent, draft minutes

11:45:16 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/04/05-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz

11:45:25 [luca_barbato]

mm: I'll ask to opensource the generator script

11:45:31 [kaz]

i|Issue 313|subtopic: #313|

11:46:05 [luca_barbato]

ml: We'll wait for a response on the request

11:46:06 [kaz]

rrsagent, draft minutes

11:46:07 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/04/05-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz

11:47:04 [kaz]

q?

11:47:07 [luca_barbato]

ml: Please expand the information on the issue so other may help

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ack l

11:48:50 [luca_barbato]

kaz: is 348 part of the security issues?

11:49:46 [luca_barbato]

ml: 348 is not related to security, but needs mm contribution

11:50:43 [kaz]

s|topic: Security-labeled issues||

11:50:49 [kaz]

s/subtopic: #313//

11:50:51 [kaz]

rrsagent, draft minutes

11:50:52 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/04/05-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz

11:50:58 [luca_barbato]

kaz: <clarification on the topic at hand>

11:51:29 [kaz]

(just removed "Security-labeled issues" from the topic within the minutes)

11:51:31 [kaz]

rrsagent, draft minutes

11:51:33 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/04/05-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz

11:51:59 [luca_barbato]

mm: Help wanted on addressing the P1 issues still open

11:52:39 [luca_barbato]

topic: New pull requests

11:53:27 [luca_barbato]

subtopic: #382

11:54:06 [luca_barbato]

ml: It is a draft, ege already started reviewing it

11:54:59 [kaz]

i|It is|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/382 PR 382 - Draft: initial draft of webhook properties section|

11:55:17 [luca_barbato]

.. it contains a proposal for the an observe mechanism for properties

11:57:01 [kaz]

rrsagent, draft minutes

11:57:03 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/04/05-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz

11:57:15 [luca_barbato]

q+

11:57:20 [kaz]

ack k

11:57:29 [Ege]

q+

11:59:04 [luca_barbato]

lb: Better to use POST for both subscription and unsubscription

11:59:31 [kaz]

-> https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/382.html#http-webhook-profile-protocol-binding-unobserveallproperties preview - 8.4.1.4 unobserveallproperties

11:59:58 [luca_barbato]

ege: Make sure the refer to properties instead of event

12:01:27 [kaz]

q+

12:01:36 [luca_barbato]

ege: DELETE would need a identifer for the matching observe

12:01:42 [Ege]

see https://stackoverflow.com/questions/299628/is-an-entity-body-allowed-for-an-http-delete-request

12:02:03 [luca_barbato]

mm: I'll do another iteration

12:02:04 [Ege]

ack e

12:02:08 [Ege]

ack l

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ack k

12:02:29 [kaz]

[Kaz notes we're out of time and suggests continue the discussion next time]

12:02:31 [kaz]

[adjourned]

12:02:37 [kaz]

rrsagent, draft minutes

12:02:38 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/04/05-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz