12:03:11 RRSAgent has joined #wot 12:03:15 logging to https://www.w3.org/2023/04/05-wot-irc 12:03:32 meeting: WoT-WG/IG 12:03:56 McCool_ has joined #wot 12:05:06 ryuichi has joined #wot 12:05:47 dape has joined #wot 12:06:36 cris_ has joined #wot 12:06:59 q+ 12:07:12 topic: Minutes Review 12:07:16 q- 12:07:22 scribenick: Ege 12:08:15 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Daniel_Peintner, Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura, Luca_Barbato, Michael_Lagally, Ryuichi_Matsukura, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Tetsushi_Matsuda, Tomoaki_Mizushima 12:08:21 chair: McCool 12:08:27 matsuda has joined #wot 12:08:44 agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#5_April_2023 12:08:57 -> https://www.w3.org/2023/03/29-wot-minutes.html Apr-29 12:08:58 mm: anything to change that relates to main call? 12:09:11 s/main call/main call part/ 12:09:38 rrsagent, make log public 12:09:42 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:09:43 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/04/05-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:09:50 topic: Quick Updates 12:10:04 q+ 12:10:31 q+ 12:10:47 mm: due to Hannover Fair, we have missing members 12:11:15 ... so we have cancellations 12:11:26 ack c 12:11:54 mm: should we cancel other meetings? 12:12:19 kaz: let's let TF moderators decide and bring proposals to this call 12:12:26 mm: let's do that 12:13:29 s/Basically, all the TF leaders should put proposed cancellations on the main wiki before the main call starts, and we should confirm the proposals during the main call./ 12:13:37 s/let's let TF moderators decide and bring proposals to this call/Basically, all the TF leaders should put proposed cancellations on the main wiki before the main call starts, and we should confirm the proposals during the main call./ 12:13:40 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:13:42 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/04/05-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:13:48 mm: Siemens wants to sponsor a workshop about industry adoption 12:13:56 q+ 12:14:08 i/due to Hann/subtopic: Cancellations/ 12:14:10 ack k 12:14:30 mlagally_ has joined #wot 12:14:34 q+ 12:14:50 sebastian has joined #wot 12:14:52 ack e 12:14:52 q+ 12:14:57 q+ 12:15:22 ack ml 12:15:31 ek: switzerland was also discussed 12:16:00 ml: covid seems to be gone, should we do more F2F, do people have budget and time? 12:16:32 mm: let's see what happens in seville 12:16:51 ... and then we can discuss next events 12:17:41 s/sebille/Sevilla/ 12:17:41 sk: we want to do something like in 2019 12:18:45 ack s 12:18:59 dezell has joined #wot 12:19:07 ... and we want to show companies having it in their products 12:19:08 present+ David_Ezell 12:19:36 sk: around may but we should check that we do not conflict with fairs 12:19:49 ... most likely the event will be in berlin 12:20:24 mm: we need a proposal to make it a w3c event 12:21:05 -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2023JanMar/0078.html TPAC meeting questionnaire (Member-only) 12:21:25 kaz: let's move on with charter 12:21:40 kaz: also we need to answer tpac questionnaire 12:22:09 ack k 12:22:31 q+ 12:23:45 ack e 12:23:45 ack e 12:23:46 q? 12:23:57 topic: Scripting API 12:24:10 mm: the group review has started, 2 week deadline 12:24:18 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:24:19 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/04/05-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:24:25 dp: I have put wrong link but yes, we have two week period 12:24:40 ek: There is a resolution for Binding Templates as well, I will send an email 12:24:44 s/seville/Sevilla/ 12:24:44 topic: Charter 12:25:05 i/Siemens wants/subtopic: Possible workshop/ 12:25:47 mm: we want to merge PR 113 and have resolution for the charter wide review 12:26:11 s/let's move on with charter/Having this kind of event would be great, but we're not sure about the logistics or the content at all at the moment, so I'd suggest we move a head and talk about the WG Charter for today./ 12:26:40 s/topic: Scripting API/subtopic: Scripting API/ 12:26:43 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:26:44 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/04/05-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:26:50 proposed: After merging PR 113 at https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/pull/113 regarding the history table, begin the AC review process for the resulting proposed 2023 WG charter at https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/blob/main/wot-wg-2023-draft.html with the intention of establishing the next charter for the WoT WG. 12:26:55 q? 12:27:14 mm: any objections? 12:27:22 resolution: After merging PR 113 at https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/pull/113 regarding the history table, begin the AC review process for the resulting proposed 2023 WG charter at https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/blob/main/wot-wg-2023-draft.html with the intention of establishing the next charter for the WoT WG. 12:27:31 i/There is a/subtopic: Binding Templates/ 12:27:32 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:27:33 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/04/05-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:27:39 mm: no objections, we have resolution 12:27:44 mm: I will merge that PR 12:27:54 s/also we need to a/also a reminder that we need to a/ 12:27:56 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:27:57 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/04/05-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:28:10 https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/tree/wg-2023-ac-review 12:29:27 kaz: I have created an issue in strategy repository 12:29:36 ... we should just change the status 12:29:43 mm: let's have a look at it 12:29:53 https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/375 12:31:15 kaz: I can change the status and start the wide review 12:31:31 s|https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/375|-> https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/375 Charter issue on the strategy repository| 12:32:36 mm: any questions about the process? 12:33:19 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/issues/114 related issue 114 on wot-charter-drafts repo 12:33:25 i/114/(none)/ 12:33:46 mm: we still have testimonials and societal impact questionnaire, we will discuss in testing 12:34:45 subtopic: Charter Details Document 12:35:01 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:35:02 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/04/05-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:35:08 q+ 12:35:29 i|we want to merge|subtopic: Draft WG Charter| 12:35:31 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:35:32 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/04/05-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:35:45 q+ 12:35:48 I have to go 12:35:53 ack e 12:36:40 mm: so we need to decide on what to do with the PRs and where to move the content 12:36:47 ek: what happens to this repository later on? 12:37:56 kaz: this repository is only for creating a charter draft. We should move issues and PRs to main wot repository or the TF repositories 12:37:59 q+ 12:38:09 mm: some work items are about the entire wot 12:38:30 ... also we need a planning directory in the main repo 12:38:43 ack k 12:39:45 q+ 12:40:33 q+ 12:40:34 ack e 12:40:59 ek: Let's move issues and merge PRs that are easy to do. Then you have less work later on 12:41:20 q+ 12:41:26 mm: let's not create new PRs 12:42:17 ack k 12:43:00 ek: you can archive as well 12:43:31 i/you can/kaz: We need to review the remaining PRs at some point. At least we need to make sure none of them would impact the WG Charter./ 12:43:36 topic: Test Dev Meeting 12:43:40 i/We need/scribenick: kaz/ 12:43:46 i/you can/scribenick: Ege/ 12:44:09 q+ 12:44:44 mm: we have 2 events remaining 12:44:59 ... slides are mostly done, we need reviews 12:45:35 i|we have|-> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-wg/2023Apr/0002.html Slides info (Member-only)| 12:46:07 i|we have|-> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Group/group-wot-ie/2023Apr/0001.html Slides info (For Invited Experts)| 12:46:32 mm: in discovery, we have too many at risk assertions. We need to get rid of them 12:46:47 s/remaining/remaining, one for Architecture and another for Discovery/ 12:46:59 ... otherwise too many for an event 12:47:10 q+ 12:49:15 ack e 12:49:53 ek: let's use arch call for arch event 12:50:38 ... also please ask TF about which features they want, not necessarily implementation count 12:50:47 ... also, let's clarify where to host the video 12:51:51 kaz: yes we should clarify whether the video should be public 12:52:03 ... it is a wg event 12:53:13 mm: let's once go back to the time slot for the Architecture Dev Meeting 12:53:17 mm: so one issue is the Arch call and other is video sharing 12:53:24 mm: is it ok to use arch slot? 12:53:28 ml: yes I prefer that 12:53:30 i/let's/scribenick: kaz/ 12:53:38 i/so one/scribenick: Ege/ 12:54:50 s/yes we should clarify whether the video should be public/Yes, that's why I put how to deal with the recorded video for the first meeting for TD so that we can talk about that before jumping into the discussion on the 2nd and 3rd meetings./ 12:55:00 q+ 12:55:16 mm: let's talk about the JP meetings 12:55:32 kaz: those japanese versions should be held after the global meetings 12:55:41 ... we should reuse the resources 12:57:06 mm: please attend the meetings 12:57:14 ... videos are still useful 12:57:15 q+ 12:57:29 ... where can we put them? 12:58:00 s/it is a wg event/Note that the Testing effort is part of the WG activity, so all the participants are invited guests if they're not official participants./ 12:59:22 q+ 12:59:32 proposal: The WoT WG will record videos of the Dev Meetings and publish them publically in an official W3C channel after group and W3C marcomm review. 13:00:14 q+ 13:00:55 q+ to there is https://www.youtube.com/@W3COfficial but there is also https://www.youtube.com/@w3c-webrtc 13:01:24 proposal: The WoT WG will record presentations of the Dev Meetings material and publish them publically in an official W3C channel after group and W3C marcomm review. 13:01:29 ack k 13:01:41 kaz: @@@ 13:03:13 s/@@@/If the whole WoT WG really would like to go for that direction proposed above, that's possible. However, if so, we should make sure the content of the video, the Dev Meeting itself and the documents for it are well-organized and useful enough as a tutorial./ 13:03:24 ack e 13:03:27 ack ml 13:03:51 ack Danrancan 13:03:55 ack dape 13:03:55 dape, you wanted to there is https://www.youtube.com/@W3COfficial but there is also https://www.youtube.com/@w3c-webrtc 13:04:26 [adjourned] 13:04:43 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:04:44 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/04/05-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:24:51 luca_barbato_ has left #wot