IRC log of pwe on 2023-03-28

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Meeting: Positive Work Environment CG
13:12:58 [wendyreid]
chair: wendyreid
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date: 2023-03-28
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agenda+ Inclusion Fund Update
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agenda+ Publishing Schedule
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agenda+ Open PRs
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present+
14:01:38 [wendyreid]
present+
14:03:28 [dbooth]
Meeting: PWE
14:03:37 [dbooth]
rrsagent, draft minutes
14:03:39 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/03/28-pwe-minutes.html dbooth
14:05:16 [dbooth]
wendy: No quorum today.
14:05:30 [sheila]
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wendy: Want to pub an update this year. On track w last year's intent. Open a review period in March, which we did accidentally. Goal to put a request to AC in July, ready for TPAC. On track for that.
14:06:59 [dbooth]
... Noticed a new issue, already addressed in a different issue, but coudl talk about revising that section
14:07:19 [Ralph]
present+
14:08:17 [dbooth]
... Discussed inclusion fund last week. Email w go out and announce launch of the inclusion fund at AC mtg. Will follow up w a case study about what the fund does and how it impacts people.
14:08:27 [dbooth]
... We have some who are happy to share their stories.
14:09:07 [dbooth]
... Open question: last year we had inclusion fund and fellowship. Incl fund has no fixed number assiciated. Fellowship was a flat $500 grant w stipulation of participation.
14:09:20 [dbooth]
... Last year peole didn't understnad the diff btwn the two.
14:09:39 [dbooth]
... Need to better define them.
14:10:01 [dbooth]
... Didn't end up using all of our funding last year, so might increase funding this year.
14:10:12 [dbooth]
q+
14:10:18 [wendyreid]
ack dbooth
14:10:40 [Ralph]
dbooth: do we need to have two funds? if so, why?
14:11:28 [dbooth]
wendy: incl fund was if yo uhave a barrier to coming, we can let you come. And fellowship was for doing something in particular, such as presenting a topic. I.e., tangibly contriutining sometthing.
14:11:53 [dbooth]
... But $500 prob not enough to pay for someone to come.
14:12:15 [dbooth]
... But maybe we don't need both programs. Maybe onely the incl fund.
14:12:32 [dbooth]
... Also could be a chance to encouragin joining W3C.
14:13:02 [dbooth]
sheila: I think that distinction is significant enough to warrant two. Maybe name them more distinctly.
14:13:36 [dbooth]
ralph: The word fellowship always botherd me in this concept, partly because it's similar to the term "W3C Fellow".
14:14:28 [dbooth]
... If the distinction is people who have been participants vs other, maybe we don't need to make that distinction
14:15:00 [dbooth]
wendy: Last year you had to have a w3c account to apply. But when we swithched to typeform, we removed that requirement.
14:15:33 [dbooth]
q+
14:15:38 [wendyreid]
ack dbooth
14:16:26 [dbooth]
dbooth: How valuable is the distinctoin, and does it warrant the confusion entailed?
14:17:01 [dbooth]
wendy: we could add a sentence saying "if you're not a member, we'll support you"
14:17:57 [dbooth]
sheila: Makes sense to have two reasons for funding, and don't want to give up any funding possitiliiby.
14:18:00 [dbooth]
q+
14:19:00 [dbooth]
wendy: $500 is not enough, but IDK how much is enough. Depends on where they're coming from. E.g. Kenya to Spain won't be done w $500.
14:19:06 [Ralph]
-> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-members/2021JulSep/0028.html "Seeking TPAC Inclusion Fund donations" [17 August 2021]
14:20:22 [dbooth]
dbooth: Suggest combining but listing both criteria.
14:20:44 [Ralph]
-> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-members/2022JulSep/0015.html "Opening applications for the Inclusion Fund and Honorarium Fellowships for TPAC 2022" [15 July 2022]
14:21:04 [dbooth]
Topic: PRs
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wendy: Updated patronizing language PR
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ADJOURNED
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zakim, end meeting
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As of this point the attendees have been dbooth, wendyreid, Ralph
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RRSAgent, please draft minutes v2
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/03/28-pwe-minutes.html Zakim
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I am happy to have been of service, wendyreid; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye
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14:22:28 [dbooth]
scribe: David Booth
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present+ Sheila
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i/Want to pub an update this yea/Topic: Publishing an update
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s/... Discussed inclusion fund/wendy: Discussed inclusion fund
14:24:30 [dbooth]
i/Discussed inclusion fund last week. Email w go/Topic: Inclusion funds
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/03/28-pwe-minutes.html dbooth
14:25:59 [wendyreid]
rrsagent, please draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/03/28-pwe-minutes.html wendyreid
14:47:04 [Ralph]
pwe-irc has the raw log; pwe-minutes has the formatted minutes
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(and there's a ~10-15 second delay between RRSAgent reporting that the request to generate the minutes was made and the updated .html appearing on the web
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(so if you saw an "empty" minutes.html that might have been the early one generated at xx:03 and within the 20-second window while an updated .html was being generated
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