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13:49:47 <Zakim> Meeting: Silver Task Force & Community Group
13:49:55 <jeanne> agenda?
13:50:07 <jeanne> zakim, clear agenda
13:50:07 <Zakim> agenda cleared
13:50:34 <jeanne> agenda+ highlights of F2F, CSUN, and Axe-Con
13:50:34 <jeanne> agenda+ Create a list of Methods for Error Notification
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14:00:02 <Lauriat> Present+
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14:00:15 <Chuck> present+
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14:03:56 <Makoto> present+
14:03:58 <jeanne> present+
14:04:11 <jeanne> scribe+ kirkwood
14:04:30 <jeanne> topic: Next week in AG
14:04:34 <kirkwood> present+
14:04:50 <kirkwood> Jeanne: next week AG working group focus on 2.2
14:04:56 <jeanne> zakim, take up next
14:04:56 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- highlights of F2F, CSUN, and Axe-Con -- taken up [from jeanne]
14:05:41 <kirkwood> … any noteworthy discussions about last weeks Axe-con, CSUN etc?
14:05:52 <kirkwood> (none)
14:06:15 <kirkwood> Jeanne: excellent presentations at Axe con. particular if at CSUN register at Ae con for free
14:06:23 <kirkwood> … in particular this one:
14:06:46 <jeanne> Jutta Treveranus talk at Axe-Con https://www.deque.com/axe-con/sessions/preparing-accessibility-for-the-future-and-the-present/
14:07:23 <kirkwood> … highly recommend speaks about impact of WCAG 2.2 in powerful way. long term impact of WCAG 2.2
14:08:03 <kirkwood> … very inspiring most about AI and people with disabilities. highly recommnend it
14:09:14 <kirkwood> … refences for COGA as well
14:10:55 <kirkwood> Makota: went to CSUN meet and was fruitful feel. WCAG 3 postion concis and comprhensive
14:11:17 <kirkwood> s/Makota/Mokoto
14:12:31 <kirkwood> Mokoto: attended sessions at CSUN. number of sessions regarding web accessibility seems to be decreasing maybe because of Axe con because of timing
14:12:55 <kirkwood> … good community of web accessibility at CSUN seems to be changing
14:13:12 <kirkwood> … attendees seem to be changing
14:13:27 <kirkwood> … not bad but getting smaller i felt
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14:14:35 <kirkwood> Makoto: not really a COVID any more. almost no one wearing masks, big differnce
14:15:59 <kirkwood> Jeanne: stopped going to CSUN because of behavior to PWD
14:16:37 <kirkwood> … CSUN is important to get info out to community, so have mixed feelings about scale of CSUN reducing
14:17:07 <kirkwood> Jenne: thoughts about the face to face?
14:17:19 <jeanne> zakim, take up next
14:17:20 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Create a list of Methods for Error Notification -- taken up [from jeanne]
14:17:36 <jeanne> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jtZaUzLi-jgmGdAypRUeJPzVz_ZUpMO0wdOrORiuO7w/
14:17:38 <kirkwood> Jeanne: coming towards end of error notifications
14:17:48 <jeanne> Error Notifications -> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jtZaUzLi-jgmGdAypRUeJPzVz_ZUpMO0wdOrORiuO7w/edit#
14:17:53 <kirkwood> … error notifications document
14:18:32 <kirkwood> Jeanne: we have inherited so much from subgroups, placehlder done, user need outcomes section done
14:18:50 <kirkwood> … 2  weeks now , did tests and tests for outcomes sketchy for exploratory
14:18:55 <kirkwood> … next is methods
14:19:16 <kirkwood> … list of methods not necessarily whats in each method
14:19:36 <kirkwood> …. from the test section:
14:19:38 <jeanne> Test Section of Error Notificiation -> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jtZaUzLi-jgmGdAypRUeJPzVz_ZUpMO0wdOrORiuO7w/edit#heading=h.dscepopsvke9
14:19:55 <kirkwood> … we would like to create the list of methods
14:20:18 <kirkwood> … to recap we have 5 potential outcomes 4 built out and 5th needs research
14:20:29 <kirkwood> … first notifications are provided
14:20:57 <kirkwood> … (going through document about error notification)
14:22:08 <Rachael> always?
14:22:41 <Lauriat> q+ to propose that an app should notify of error only when unable to complete something without user intervention/correction
14:23:31 <Rachael> q+ to argue that an error should be given when the system fails even if the user can't fix it
14:24:35 <Lauriat> ack me
14:24:35 <Zakim> Lauriat, you wanted to propose that an app should notify of error only when unable to complete something without user intervention/correction
14:24:45 <Lauriat> ack Rachael
14:24:45 <Zakim> Rachael, you wanted to argue that an error should be given when the system fails even if the user can't fix it
14:24:56 <Lauriat> +1 to that case as well
14:26:12 <kirkwood> Rachael: even if user can’t do something to fix error they should be notified
14:26:27 <Rachael> Might it be easier to define when errors don't need to be presented?
14:26:37 <kirkwood> Shawn: including server error please try again in half an hour
14:28:11 <Lauriat> q+ to ask about semantics
14:29:27 <Lauriat> ack me
14:29:27 <Zakim> Lauriat, you wanted to ask about semantics
14:36:36 <maryjom> present+
14:36:48 <Rachael> +1 to consistent visual and programatic location.
14:37:05 <Rachael> q+
14:37:35 <Rachael> q-
14:37:47 <Rachael> Maybe consistent relative to the view, process or trigger
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17:36:31 <jeanne> chair: jeanne, Shawn
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17:38:02 <jeanne> present+ Rachael
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