11:01:56 RRSAgent has joined #wot-profile 11:02:00 logging to https://www.w3.org/2023/03/22-wot-profile-irc 11:03:01 meeting: WoT Profile 11:03:43 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Luca_Barbato, Michael_Lagally 11:04:20 present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima 11:04:41 chair: Lagally 11:04:59 Mizushima has joined #wot-profile 11:05:27 Ege has joined #wot-profile 11:05:41 mlagally has joined #wot-profile 11:07:37 agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Profile_WebConf#Profile_-_March_22rd.2C_2023 11:09:04 topic: Minutes 11:09:11 -> https://www.w3.org/2023/03/08-wot-profile-minutes.html Mar-8 11:11:22 present+ Ege_Korkan 11:11:53 Ege, can you hear us? 11:12:27 s/Ege, can you hear us?// 11:12:35 ml: (goes through the minutes) 11:13:35 ryuichi has joined #wot-profile 11:14:48 luca_barbato has joined #wot-profile 11:15:21 approved 11:15:38 topic: Wide reviews 11:16:34 https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/issues/358 11:16:45 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/issues/358 Issue 358 - Wide review 11:16:57 ml: got responses from wide review groups 11:17:19 subtopic: I18n 11:17:52 -> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1664 i18n-activity issue 1664 - [WoT Profile] Unclear character set constraints and non-UTF-8 html 11:17:58 q+ 11:18:34 kaz: any questions about the response? 11:18:44 ml: so far the response is clear enough 11:20:23 ... why don't we invite them to the Profile call next Thursday? 11:21:02 ... how to invite them? 11:21:57 kaz: you as the Profile TF moderator can send an invitation message to them (Addison an Atsushi) CCing team-wot (including McCool, Sebastian and Kaz) 11:22:01 ml: OK. will do 11:22:36 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/issues/373 wot-profile issue 373 - Mismatch with MUST clause and examples in default language section 11:23:28 ml: kind of long discussion bout default language section 11:23:51 ... should update the example 11:24:14 https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/issues/373 11:24:48 kaz: so you want to talk about their issue 1664 and our issue 373 next Thursday. Right? 11:24:56 ml: yeah 11:25:31 https://github.com/w3cping/privacy-request/issues/115 11:25:47 i|github|subtopic: Privacy| 11:26:28 s|https://github.com/w3cping/privacy-request/issues/115|-> https://github.com/w3cping/privacy-request/issues/115 PING issue 115 - Web of Things (WoT) Profile 2023-02-16 > 2023-03-20 11:26:43 q+ 11:27:15 ml: wait until they file a new issue on wot-profile based on this review 11:27:47 ... would be a good idea to invite them too 11:28:13 subtopic: A11y 11:28:47 -> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/54 A11y issue 54 - Web of Things (WoT) Profile 2023-02-16 > 2023-03-20 11:29:10 kaz: still waiting for the response. Right? 11:29:13 ml: right 11:29:37 ... we're waiting for Security and TAG as well 11:29:50 -> https://github.com/w3c/security-request/issues/51 Security issue 11:29:58 -> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/818 TAG issue 11:30:10 topic: Issues 11:30:28 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Aclose Issues to be closed 11:30:47 subtopic: Issue 34 11:30:58 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/issues/34 Issue 34 - Extension vocabulary for protocols 11:31:01 ml: can be closed 11:31:46 (closed) 11:31:59 subtopic: Issue 213 11:32:18 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/issues/213 Issue 213 - Wrong place to use HTTP Baseline Profile 11:33:08 ek: thought there was a related PR 11:33:12 ml: ok 11:33:18 ... let's close this after handling that 11:33:47 kaz: Ege, do you have the number of the URL of the related PR handy? 11:33:52 mlagally__ has joined #wot-profile 11:34:04 https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/297 11:34:13 ek: PR 297 as above 11:34:50 s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/297|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/297 PR 297 - Revised Abstract and Introduction - fixes #115| 11:35:14 subtopic: Issue 299 11:35:30 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/issues/299 Issue 299 - Contradiction with the Arch spec on protocol bindings 11:35:37 ml: what is the actual problem here? 11:35:41 q? 11:35:45 ack k 11:35:51 q+ Ege 11:36:01 ek: the problem is clear 11:36:13 ... Architecture spec says: 11:36:14 [[ 11:36:23 Protocol Bindings MUST be serialized as hypermedia controls to be self-descriptive on how to activate the Interaction Affordance. 11:36:25 ]] 11:36:51 ek: On the other hand, Profile also defines protocol binding 11:37:39 ... should make sure the Protocol Binding part 11:38:18 q+ 11:38:21 ack e 11:39:00 ... also all the examples should have complete description of the forms tag 11:39:09 ml: what is need then? 11:40:05 ... we need to have concrete examples 11:40:36 ... you can create your own examples 11:41:17 ... (adds comments to the Issue 299) 11:41:42 ... need more discussion and a concrete proposal 11:42:22 ek: note that Lagally's example for the Testfest didn't have problem 11:42:44 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/blob/main/data/input_2022/Profile/TD/Oracle/TDs/BluePump%20WebThing.td.jsonld Lagally's example TD for the Testfest 11:43:06 ml: should remove the normative language from the Architecture spec 11:43:21 ... then add language to require "complete forms" 11:43:23 q+ 11:43:41 kaz: which document? 11:43:59 ml: requirements for "complete forms" to be included in the Profile spec 11:44:14 ack k 11:45:04 subtopic: Issue 302 11:45:09 ml: let's keep this open 11:45:20 subtopic: Issue 374 11:45:40 s/Issue/PR/ 11:45:57 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/374 PR 374 - Define values of in and name for basic security scheme 11:47:13 i|subtopic: I|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/issues/302 Issue 302 - Clarify the payload formats of read/write property| 11:47:22 ml: (goes through the changes and comments) 11:47:48 ... I'm OK with this PR 11:48:17 kaz: +1 11:48:23 (merged) 11:49:01 i/subtopic:/topic: Contributions/ 11:49:12 subtopic: PR 334 11:49:58 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/334 PR 334 - WIP: Provide example in the new introduction section 11:50:10 ml: marked as "WIP" 11:50:30 ... would like to get feedback from Sebastian 11:50:37 ... Ege, can you ping him? 11:50:38 ek: ok 11:50:58 subtopic: PR 368 11:51:05 https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/368 11:51:30 s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/368|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/368 PR 368 - Add TD assertion conformance| 11:52:04 ml: myself was thinking about simple editorial changes 11:52:14 ... but second point need further discussion 11:52:44 ... Ben was raising comments 11:53:30 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/368#pullrequestreview-1321528247 Ben's comments 11:54:19 ek: would require big changes, so would suggest we add exceptions 11:54:33 q+ 11:54:49 q+ 11:55:25 ml: wondering about Ben's 2nd point 11:55:26 [[ 11:55:27 One slight subtlety here is that in the HTTP SSE Profile we assume the text/event-stream response type from the subprotocol member of the Form being set to sse. Given this is fixed in the SSE specification, I think that's a reasonable assumption. 11:55:28 ]] 11:56:08 ml: If we work on the exception, we should look into the spec carefully 11:56:23 q- 11:56:26 ... and see if there is anything else missing 11:57:32 kaz: we should add necessary clarification for the Profile spec 11:58:00 ... but should think about the detailed analysis on the relationship among related specs separately (if possible) 11:58:02 ack k 11:58:18 subtopic: PR 297 11:58:34 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/297 PR 297 - Revised Abstract and Introduction - fixes #115 11:58:41 ml: let's revisit this next time 11:58:53 topic: AOB 11:59:08 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3AProfile-1.0 Profile 1.0 issues 11:59:18 ml: please review the issues around Profile 1.0 too 12:00:00 s/the issues/the remaining issues/ 12:00:02 [adjourned] 12:00:07 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:00:08 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/03/22-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz 12:00:11 rrsagent, make log public 12:00:13 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:00:14 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/03/22-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz 12:09:46 regrets+ McCool 12:10:03 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:10:05 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/03/22-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz 12:16:06 https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Thing_Description_WebConf#Thing_Description_.2815_mins.29 13:50:39 Mizushima has left #wot-profile 14:03:53 Zakim has left #wot-profile