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14:21:54 <addison> trackbot, prepare teleconference
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14:22:00 <trackbot> Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
14:22:00 <trackbot> Date: 16 March 2023
14:22:00 <agendabot> agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/dcb21af5-6796-49aa-9a5c-88b2454316a3/20230316T150000
14:22:00 <agendabot> clear agenda
14:22:00 <agendabot> agenda+ Agenda Review
14:22:00 <agendabot> agenda+ Action Items
14:22:02 <agendabot> agenda+ Info Share
14:22:04 <agendabot> agenda+ RADAR Review
14:22:05 <addison> Chair: Addison Phillips
14:22:06 <agendabot> agenda+ Pending Issue Review
14:22:09 <agendabot> agenda+ IRIs and the URL spec: what's our policy here?
14:22:11 <agendabot> agenda+ Update the W3C style guide I18N section?
14:22:14 <agendabot> agenda+ Publish N'Ko Layout Requirements as FPWD Note?
14:22:16 <agendabot> agenda+ AOB?
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14:58:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/03/16-i18n-minutes.html addison_
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14:59:55 <addison_> present+ Atsushi, Fuqiao, Felix
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15:02:23 <addison_> present+ JcK
15:02:28 <atsushi> scribe+
15:02:38 <addison_> zakim, take up agendum 1
15:02:38 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
15:02:39 <addison_> agenda?
15:02:59 <addison_> zakim, take up agendum 2
15:02:59 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Action Items -- taken up [from agendabot]
15:03:11 <addison_> agenda+ Glossary
15:03:19 <addison_> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
15:04:13 <atsushi> addison: 1129, writing but not finished yet
15:04:27 <atsushi> addison: 1237, for issue 1651 undergo
15:05:16 <atsushi> r12a: 1245, go around finally, bidi-documents we have, we have bidi definition in glossary
15:05:29 <atsushi> ... I wasn't quite sure which form we are missing
15:06:19 <atsushi> ... gonna suggest we have what we want, and to define spilit over
15:06:34 <atsushi> addison: I will take 1245 then
15:06:54 <atsushi> r12a: not specifically in string-meta, but could link to glossary
15:07:33 <atsushi> r12a: 1247, still open
15:07:48 <atsushi> xfq: 1248, completed
15:08:08 <atsushi> ... we don't need to change review issue template, but could do with adding
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15:08:43 <xfq_> close ACTION-1248
15:08:43 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-1248.
15:08:44 <addison_> w3c/i18n-glossary#22?
15:08:45 <ghurlbot> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-glossary/issues/22 -> Issue 22 Items from lreq that could be added to Glossary (r12a)
15:08:45 <Github> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-glossary/issues/22 : Items from lreq that could be added to Glossary
15:09:05 <atsushi> r12a: 1250, in progress
15:10:04 <atsushi> addison: 1252, filed form for upcoming TPAC
15:10:19 <atsushi> ... on Mon and Tue
15:11:06 <atsushi> addison: 1253, filed request, stillworking at the PR, will work later today
15:11:19 <atsushi> addison: filed, waiting for responce
15:11:44 <addison_> Tanych/accept-language#10?
15:11:44 <ghurlbot> https://github.com/Tanych/accept-language/issues/10 -> Issue 10 I18N objections to reducing accept-language (aphillips)
15:11:44 <Github> https://github.com/Tanych/accept-language/issues/10 : I18N objections to reducing accept-language
15:12:23 <addison_> agenda?
15:12:34 <addison_> zakim, take up agendum 3
15:12:34 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Info Share -- taken up [from agendabot]
15:12:54 <addison_> zakim, take up agendum 4
15:12:54 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- RADAR Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
15:13:03 <addison_> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1
15:13:16 <atsushi> addison: no new incoming
15:13:41 <atsushi> r12a: css-text-3 under working
15:14:12 <atsushi> bert: digital publishing WAI-ARIA, looks expected with works over 20 years
15:14:36 <atsushi> ... don't expect issues from rest of spec under checking, no need extension
15:16:33 <Bert> s/digital publishing WAI-ARIA,/found no issues in any of the changed sections. Noticed there is a lot of typographic knowledge contained in the spec, which/
15:16:35 <xfq_> s/digital publishing WAI-ARIA/css-text-3/
15:16:36 <atsushi> atsushi: working for one additional pending issue, need some more time
15:17:09 <atsushi> xfq: saw two specifications on WAI, and did not find any issue
15:17:27 <addison_> agenda?
15:17:30 <addison_> zakim, take up agendum 5
15:17:30 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Pending Issue Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
15:17:43 <xfq_> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/996
15:18:09 <atsushi> xfq: one close?, we already have satisfied with resolution, so we could close this review
15:18:20 <atsushi> ... added a comment on the issue
15:18:59 <addison_> close w3c/i18n-activity#996
15:18:59 <ghurlbot> Cannot close issue w3c/i18n-activity#996. Forbidden.
15:19:01 <Github> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/996 : Attribute with natural language but no language
15:19:02 <Github> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/996 : Attribute with natural language but no language
15:19:41 <addison_> zakim, take up agendum 10
15:19:41 <Zakim> agendum 10 -- Glossary -- taken up [from addison_]
15:20:29 <addison_> w3c/i18n-glossary#26?
15:20:29 <ghurlbot> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-glossary/issues/26 -> Pull Request 26 Merge in new glossary items. (r12a)
15:20:30 <Github> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-glossary/pull/26 : Merge in new glossary items.
15:20:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/03/16-i18n-minutes.html xfq_
15:20:58 <atsushi> addison: bunch of comments
15:22:05 <atsushi> addison: wait a while for people review it, or just merge it now?
15:22:13 <atsushi> felix: merging seems simpler
15:22:32 <atsushi> r12a: still have some item to work on
15:23:13 <atsushi> ... on CLDR, we have a definition for expanded form
15:24:03 <atsushi> addison: one exported, and another at local, and link can work from us
15:24:21 <atsushi> r12a: which one should be exported or not, are required to be reviewed
15:24:40 <addison_> [=CLDR=][[CLDR]]
15:26:13 <atsushi> addison: will resolve comment
15:26:21 <addison_> zakim, take up agendum 6
15:26:21 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- IRIs and the URL spec: what's our policy here? -- taken up [from agendabot]
15:26:48 <addison_> https://w3c.github.io/bp-i18n-specdev/#resid_misc
15:26:58 <atsushi> addison: fundamental question, are we happy with our current recommendation on IRIs?
15:26:58 <addison_> https://github.com/w3c/rdf-concepts/issues/15
15:27:14 <addison_> https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/IRIStatus
15:27:58 <atsushi> ... what we tell people to do on IRIs, URLs are only for browsers
15:28:59 <atsushi> r12a: no additional comment
15:29:16 <atsushi> addison: I'm ok with saying this is merquee area, although
15:29:31 <atsushi> ... we deprecated in char-mod
15:30:26 <addison_> agenda?
15:30:41 <addison_> zakim, take up agendum 8
15:30:41 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- Publish N'Ko Layout Requirements as FPWD Note? -- taken up [from agendabot]
15:31:04 <atsushi> addison: publish as FPNOTE?
15:31:14 <addison_> https://w3c.github.io/afrlreq/nko/
15:31:48 <atsushi> r12a: been attracting attention from colleagues working on African languages
15:32:43 <atsushi> ... we've been talking about font styles
15:33:27 <atsushi> ... another one related to compound words,
15:34:04 <atsushi> addison: publish as FPNOTE? first publish is people to look in
15:34:14 <atsushi> addison: we need to vote for publishing
15:34:20 <Bert> +1
15:34:20 <addison_> +1
15:34:23 <atsushi> +1
15:34:23 <r12a-again> +1
15:35:05 <JcK> +1
15:35:05 <xfq_> +1
15:35:05 <addison_> RESOLVED: publish n'ko layout requirements as first public note
15:35:11 <atsushi> addison: resolved, and let'spublish
15:35:50 <atsushi> r12a: similar to counter style, referred by CSS spec.
15:36:24 <atsushi> ... counter style for this, dot after numeric character would go under these character
15:36:33 <atsushi> ... could open question to colleagues
15:37:51 <r12a> https://w3c.github.io/afrlreq/nko/#cs_ordinal
15:38:10 <atsushi> xfq: one editorial, shortname should be fixed
15:38:39 <addison_> zakim, take up agendum 7
15:38:39 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- Update the W3C style guide I18N section? -- taken up [from agendabot]
15:38:54 <addison_> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2023JanMar/0081.html
15:39:07 <addison_> https://www.w3.org/Guide/manual-of-style/#I18n
15:39:39 <atsushi> addison: language subtags registry
15:39:51 <addison_> %% Type: language Subtag: nqo Description: N'Ko Description: N’Ko
15:41:03 <r12a>  ‎02BC MODIFIER LETTER APOSTROPHE
15:42:02 <r12a> U+2019: RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK
15:43:21 <atsushi> addison: long ago, this is defined, and worked on char-mod after
15:44:39 <atsushi> r12a: example is really weird...
15:46:06 <atsushi> [chat about history and old stories]
15:47:39 <atsushi> addison: deprecate bunch of these, and just point spec-dev or something else
15:47:46 <xfq_> https://www.w3.org/Guide/manual-of-style/#Markup
15:48:01 <atsushi> xfq: also i18n related things are in other sections also
15:49:57 <atsushi> r12a: probabry be wise to write Colarie before starting
15:49:59 <addison_> action: addison: write to coralie about the style guide
15:50:06 <ghurlbot> Sorry, I don't know what repository to use.
15:50:06 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1255 - Write to coralie about the style guide [on Addison Phillips - due 2023-03-23].
15:50:30 <addison_> agenda?
15:50:46 <addison_> zakim, take up agendum 9
15:50:46 <Zakim> agendum 9 -- AOB? -- taken up [from agendabot]
15:51:37 <atsushi> [bert askes about github bot]
15:53:17 <Bert> ghurlbot, status?
15:53:17 <ghurlbot> Bert, the delay is 15, issues are on, names are on; and no repositories are specified.
15:53:23 <r12a> ghurlbot --help
15:53:29 <r12a> ghurlbot help
15:56:09 <Bert> Github: help?
15:57:14 <Bert> Github, help?
15:58:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/03/16-i18n-minutes.html addison_
15:59:18 <addison_> close action-1254
15:59:18 <trackbot> Closed action-1254.
15:59:28 <addison_> close action-1252
15:59:29 <trackbot> Closed action-1252.
15:59:46 <addison_> close action-1250
15:59:46 <trackbot> Closed action-1250.
16:00:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/03/16-i18n-minutes.html addison_
16:02:13 <addison_> s/Colarie/Coralie/
16:02:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/03/16-i18n-minutes.html addison_
16:03:11 <addison_> scribe+ addison_
16:03:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/03/16-i18n-minutes.html addison_
16:05:47 <addison_> zakim, bye
16:05:47 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been addison, atsushi, Fuqiao, Felix, fsasaki, Eemeli, Richard, JcK
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