IRC log of i18n on 2023-03-16
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- trackbot, prepare teleconference
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- agendabot, find agenda
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- addison, OK. This may take a minute...
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- Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 16 March 2023
- 14:22:00 [agendabot]
- agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/dcb21af5-6796-49aa-9a5c-88b2454316a3/20230316T150000
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- clear agenda
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- agenda+ Agenda Review
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- agenda+ Action Items
- 14:22:02 [agendabot]
- agenda+ Info Share
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- agenda+ RADAR Review
- 14:22:05 [addison]
- Chair: Addison Phillips
- 14:22:06 [agendabot]
- agenda+ Pending Issue Review
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- agenda+ IRIs and the URL spec: what's our policy here?
- 14:22:11 [agendabot]
- agenda+ Update the W3C style guide I18N section?
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- agenda+ Publish N'Ko Layout Requirements as FPWD Note?
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- agenda+ AOB?
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- present+
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- present+
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/03/16-i18n-minutes.html addison_
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- present+ Atsushi, Fuqiao, Felix
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- +fsasaki
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- present+ Eemeli
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- present+ Richard
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- present+ JcK
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- scribe+
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- zakim, take up agendum 1
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- agendum 1 -- Agenda Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
- 15:02:39 [addison_]
- agenda?
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- zakim, take up agendum 2
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- agendum 2 -- Action Items -- taken up [from agendabot]
- 15:03:11 [addison_]
- agenda+ Glossary
- 15:03:19 [addison_]
- https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
- 15:04:13 [atsushi]
- addison: 1129, writing but not finished yet
- 15:04:27 [atsushi]
- addison: 1237, for issue 1651 undergo
- 15:05:16 [atsushi]
- r12a: 1245, go around finally, bidi-documents we have, we have bidi definition in glossary
- 15:05:29 [atsushi]
- ... I wasn't quite sure which form we are missing
- 15:06:19 [atsushi]
- ... gonna suggest we have what we want, and to define spilit over
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- addison: I will take 1245 then
- 15:06:54 [atsushi]
- r12a: not specifically in string-meta, but could link to glossary
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- r12a: 1247, still open
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- xfq: 1248, completed
- 15:08:08 [atsushi]
- ... we don't need to change review issue template, but could do with adding
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- 15:08:43 [xfq_]
- close ACTION-1248
- 15:08:43 [trackbot]
- Closed ACTION-1248.
- 15:08:44 [addison_]
- w3c/i18n-glossary#22?
- 15:08:45 [ghurlbot]
- https://github.com/w3c/i18n-glossary/issues/22 -> Issue 22 Items from lreq that could be added to Glossary (r12a)
- 15:08:45 [Github]
- https://github.com/w3c/i18n-glossary/issues/22 : Items from lreq that could be added to Glossary
- 15:09:05 [atsushi]
- r12a: 1250, in progress
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- addison: 1252, filed form for upcoming TPAC
- 15:10:19 [atsushi]
- ... on Mon and Tue
- 15:11:06 [atsushi]
- addison: 1253, filed request, stillworking at the PR, will work later today
- 15:11:19 [atsushi]
- addison: filed, waiting for responce
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- Tanych/accept-language#10?
- 15:11:44 [ghurlbot]
- https://github.com/Tanych/accept-language/issues/10 -> Issue 10 I18N objections to reducing accept-language (aphillips)
- 15:11:44 [Github]
- https://github.com/Tanych/accept-language/issues/10 : I18N objections to reducing accept-language
- 15:12:23 [addison_]
- agenda?
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- zakim, take up agendum 3
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- agendum 3 -- Info Share -- taken up [from agendabot]
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- zakim, take up agendum 4
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- agendum 4 -- RADAR Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
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- https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1
- 15:13:16 [atsushi]
- addison: no new incoming
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- r12a: css-text-3 under working
- 15:14:12 [atsushi]
- bert: digital publishing WAI-ARIA, looks expected with works over 20 years
- 15:14:36 [atsushi]
- ... don't expect issues from rest of spec under checking, no need extension
- 15:16:33 [Bert]
- s/digital publishing WAI-ARIA,/found no issues in any of the changed sections. Noticed there is a lot of typographic knowledge contained in the spec, which/
- 15:16:35 [xfq_]
- s/digital publishing WAI-ARIA/css-text-3/
- 15:16:36 [atsushi]
- atsushi: working for one additional pending issue, need some more time
- 15:17:09 [atsushi]
- xfq: saw two specifications on WAI, and did not find any issue
- 15:17:27 [addison_]
- agenda?
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- zakim, take up agendum 5
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- agendum 5 -- Pending Issue Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
- 15:17:43 [xfq_]
- https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/996
- 15:18:09 [atsushi]
- xfq: one close?, we already have satisfied with resolution, so we could close this review
- 15:18:20 [atsushi]
- ... added a comment on the issue
- 15:18:59 [addison_]
- close w3c/i18n-activity#996
- 15:18:59 [ghurlbot]
- Cannot close issue w3c/i18n-activity#996. Forbidden.
- 15:19:01 [Github]
- https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/996 : Attribute with natural language but no language
- 15:19:02 [Github]
- https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/996 : Attribute with natural language but no language
- 15:19:41 [addison_]
- zakim, take up agendum 10
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- agendum 10 -- Glossary -- taken up [from addison_]
- 15:20:29 [addison_]
- w3c/i18n-glossary#26?
- 15:20:29 [ghurlbot]
- https://github.com/w3c/i18n-glossary/issues/26 -> Pull Request 26 Merge in new glossary items. (r12a)
- 15:20:30 [Github]
- https://github.com/w3c/i18n-glossary/pull/26 : Merge in new glossary items.
- 15:20:52 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/03/16-i18n-minutes.html xfq_
- 15:20:58 [atsushi]
- addison: bunch of comments
- 15:22:05 [atsushi]
- addison: wait a while for people review it, or just merge it now?
- 15:22:13 [atsushi]
- felix: merging seems simpler
- 15:22:32 [atsushi]
- r12a: still have some item to work on
- 15:23:13 [atsushi]
- ... on CLDR, we have a definition for expanded form
- 15:24:03 [atsushi]
- addison: one exported, and another at local, and link can work from us
- 15:24:21 [atsushi]
- r12a: which one should be exported or not, are required to be reviewed
- 15:24:40 [addison_]
- [=CLDR=][[CLDR]]
- 15:26:13 [atsushi]
- addison: will resolve comment
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- zakim, take up agendum 6
- 15:26:21 [Zakim]
- agendum 6 -- IRIs and the URL spec: what's our policy here? -- taken up [from agendabot]
- 15:26:48 [addison_]
- https://w3c.github.io/bp-i18n-specdev/#resid_misc
- 15:26:58 [atsushi]
- addison: fundamental question, are we happy with our current recommendation on IRIs?
- 15:26:58 [addison_]
- https://github.com/w3c/rdf-concepts/issues/15
- 15:27:14 [addison_]
- https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/IRIStatus
- 15:27:58 [atsushi]
- ... what we tell people to do on IRIs, URLs are only for browsers
- 15:28:59 [atsushi]
- r12a: no additional comment
- 15:29:16 [atsushi]
- addison: I'm ok with saying this is merquee area, although
- 15:29:31 [atsushi]
- ... we deprecated in char-mod
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- agenda?
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- zakim, take up agendum 8
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- agendum 8 -- Publish N'Ko Layout Requirements as FPWD Note? -- taken up [from agendabot]
- 15:31:04 [atsushi]
- addison: publish as FPNOTE?
- 15:31:14 [addison_]
- https://w3c.github.io/afrlreq/nko/
- 15:31:48 [atsushi]
- r12a: been attracting attention from colleagues working on African languages
- 15:32:43 [atsushi]
- ... we've been talking about font styles
- 15:33:27 [atsushi]
- ... another one related to compound words,
- 15:34:04 [atsushi]
- addison: publish as FPNOTE? first publish is people to look in
- 15:34:14 [atsushi]
- addison: we need to vote for publishing
- 15:34:20 [Bert]
- +1
- 15:34:20 [addison_]
- +1
- 15:34:23 [atsushi]
- +1
- 15:34:23 [r12a-again]
- +1
- 15:35:05 [JcK]
- +1
- 15:35:05 [xfq_]
- +1
- 15:35:05 [addison_]
- RESOLVED: publish n'ko layout requirements as first public note
- 15:35:11 [atsushi]
- addison: resolved, and let'spublish
- 15:35:50 [atsushi]
- r12a: similar to counter style, referred by CSS spec.
- 15:36:24 [atsushi]
- ... counter style for this, dot after numeric character would go under these character
- 15:36:33 [atsushi]
- ... could open question to colleagues
- 15:37:51 [r12a]
- https://w3c.github.io/afrlreq/nko/#cs_ordinal
- 15:38:10 [atsushi]
- xfq: one editorial, shortname should be fixed
- 15:38:39 [addison_]
- zakim, take up agendum 7
- 15:38:39 [Zakim]
- agendum 7 -- Update the W3C style guide I18N section? -- taken up [from agendabot]
- 15:38:54 [addison_]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2023JanMar/0081.html
- 15:39:07 [addison_]
- https://www.w3.org/Guide/manual-of-style/#I18n
- 15:39:39 [atsushi]
- addison: language subtags registry
- 15:39:51 [addison_]
- %% Type: language Subtag: nqo Description: N'Ko Description: N’Ko
- 15:41:03 [r12a]
- 02BC MODIFIER LETTER APOSTROPHE
- 15:42:02 [r12a]
- U+2019: RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK
- 15:43:21 [atsushi]
- addison: long ago, this is defined, and worked on char-mod after
- 15:44:39 [atsushi]
- r12a: example is really weird...
- 15:46:06 [atsushi]
- [chat about history and old stories]
- 15:47:39 [atsushi]
- addison: deprecate bunch of these, and just point spec-dev or something else
- 15:47:46 [xfq_]
- https://www.w3.org/Guide/manual-of-style/#Markup
- 15:48:01 [atsushi]
- xfq: also i18n related things are in other sections also
- 15:49:57 [atsushi]
- r12a: probabry be wise to write Colarie before starting
- 15:49:59 [addison_]
- action: addison: write to coralie about the style guide
- 15:50:06 [ghurlbot]
- Sorry, I don't know what repository to use.
- 15:50:06 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-1255 - Write to coralie about the style guide [on Addison Phillips - due 2023-03-23].
- 15:50:30 [addison_]
- agenda?
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- zakim, take up agendum 9
- 15:50:46 [Zakim]
- agendum 9 -- AOB? -- taken up [from agendabot]
- 15:51:37 [atsushi]
- [bert askes about github bot]
- 15:53:17 [Bert]
- ghurlbot, status?
- 15:53:17 [ghurlbot]
- Bert, the delay is 15, issues are on, names are on; and no repositories are specified.
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- ghurlbot --help
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- ghurlbot help
- 15:56:09 [Bert]
- Github: help?
- 15:57:14 [Bert]
- Github, help?
- 15:58:53 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/03/16-i18n-minutes.html addison_
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- close action-1254
- 15:59:18 [trackbot]
- Closed action-1254.
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- close action-1252
- 15:59:29 [trackbot]
- Closed action-1252.
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- close action-1250
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- Closed action-1250.
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/03/16-i18n-minutes.html addison_
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- s/Colarie/Coralie/
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/03/16-i18n-minutes.html addison_
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- scribe+ addison_
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/03/16-i18n-minutes.html addison_
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- zakim, bye
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- leaving. As of this point the attendees have been addison, atsushi, Fuqiao, Felix, fsasaki, Eemeli, Richard, JcK
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