IRC log of i18n on 2023-03-16

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14:21:54 [addison]
trackbot, prepare teleconference
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RRSAgent, make logs public
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agendabot, find agenda
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addison, OK. This may take a minute...
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Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 16 March 2023
14:22:00 [agendabot]
agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/dcb21af5-6796-49aa-9a5c-88b2454316a3/20230316T150000
14:22:00 [agendabot]
clear agenda
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agenda+ Agenda Review
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agenda+ Action Items
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agenda+ Info Share
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agenda+ RADAR Review
14:22:05 [addison]
Chair: Addison Phillips
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agenda+ Pending Issue Review
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agenda+ IRIs and the URL spec: what's our policy here?
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agenda+ Update the W3C style guide I18N section?
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agenda+ Publish N'Ko Layout Requirements as FPWD Note?
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agenda+ AOB?
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present+
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present+
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present+ Atsushi, Fuqiao, Felix
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+fsasaki
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present+ Eemeli
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present+ Richard
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present+ JcK
15:02:28 [atsushi]
scribe+
15:02:38 [addison_]
zakim, take up agendum 1
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agendum 1 -- Agenda Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
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agenda?
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zakim, take up agendum 2
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agendum 2 -- Action Items -- taken up [from agendabot]
15:03:11 [addison_]
agenda+ Glossary
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https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
15:04:13 [atsushi]
addison: 1129, writing but not finished yet
15:04:27 [atsushi]
addison: 1237, for issue 1651 undergo
15:05:16 [atsushi]
r12a: 1245, go around finally, bidi-documents we have, we have bidi definition in glossary
15:05:29 [atsushi]
... I wasn't quite sure which form we are missing
15:06:19 [atsushi]
... gonna suggest we have what we want, and to define spilit over
15:06:34 [atsushi]
addison: I will take 1245 then
15:06:54 [atsushi]
r12a: not specifically in string-meta, but could link to glossary
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r12a: 1247, still open
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xfq: 1248, completed
15:08:08 [atsushi]
... we don't need to change review issue template, but could do with adding
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15:08:43 [xfq_]
close ACTION-1248
15:08:43 [trackbot]
Closed ACTION-1248.
15:08:44 [addison_]
w3c/i18n-glossary#22?
15:08:45 [ghurlbot]
https://github.com/w3c/i18n-glossary/issues/22 -> Issue 22 Items from lreq that could be added to Glossary (r12a)
15:08:45 [Github]
https://github.com/w3c/i18n-glossary/issues/22 : Items from lreq that could be added to Glossary
15:09:05 [atsushi]
r12a: 1250, in progress
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addison: 1252, filed form for upcoming TPAC
15:10:19 [atsushi]
... on Mon and Tue
15:11:06 [atsushi]
addison: 1253, filed request, stillworking at the PR, will work later today
15:11:19 [atsushi]
addison: filed, waiting for responce
15:11:44 [addison_]
Tanych/accept-language#10?
15:11:44 [ghurlbot]
https://github.com/Tanych/accept-language/issues/10 -> Issue 10 I18N objections to reducing accept-language (aphillips)
15:11:44 [Github]
https://github.com/Tanych/accept-language/issues/10 : I18N objections to reducing accept-language
15:12:23 [addison_]
agenda?
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zakim, take up agendum 3
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agendum 3 -- Info Share -- taken up [from agendabot]
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zakim, take up agendum 4
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agendum 4 -- RADAR Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
15:13:03 [addison_]
https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1
15:13:16 [atsushi]
addison: no new incoming
15:13:41 [atsushi]
r12a: css-text-3 under working
15:14:12 [atsushi]
bert: digital publishing WAI-ARIA, looks expected with works over 20 years
15:14:36 [atsushi]
... don't expect issues from rest of spec under checking, no need extension
15:16:33 [Bert]
s/digital publishing WAI-ARIA,/found no issues in any of the changed sections. Noticed there is a lot of typographic knowledge contained in the spec, which/
15:16:35 [xfq_]
s/digital publishing WAI-ARIA/css-text-3/
15:16:36 [atsushi]
atsushi: working for one additional pending issue, need some more time
15:17:09 [atsushi]
xfq: saw two specifications on WAI, and did not find any issue
15:17:27 [addison_]
agenda?
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zakim, take up agendum 5
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agendum 5 -- Pending Issue Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
15:17:43 [xfq_]
https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/996
15:18:09 [atsushi]
xfq: one close?, we already have satisfied with resolution, so we could close this review
15:18:20 [atsushi]
... added a comment on the issue
15:18:59 [addison_]
close w3c/i18n-activity#996
15:18:59 [ghurlbot]
Cannot close issue w3c/i18n-activity#996. Forbidden.
15:19:01 [Github]
https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/996 : Attribute with natural language but no language
15:19:02 [Github]
https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/996 : Attribute with natural language but no language
15:19:41 [addison_]
zakim, take up agendum 10
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agendum 10 -- Glossary -- taken up [from addison_]
15:20:29 [addison_]
w3c/i18n-glossary#26?
15:20:29 [ghurlbot]
https://github.com/w3c/i18n-glossary/issues/26 -> Pull Request 26 Merge in new glossary items. (r12a)
15:20:30 [Github]
https://github.com/w3c/i18n-glossary/pull/26 : Merge in new glossary items.
15:20:52 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/03/16-i18n-minutes.html xfq_
15:20:58 [atsushi]
addison: bunch of comments
15:22:05 [atsushi]
addison: wait a while for people review it, or just merge it now?
15:22:13 [atsushi]
felix: merging seems simpler
15:22:32 [atsushi]
r12a: still have some item to work on
15:23:13 [atsushi]
... on CLDR, we have a definition for expanded form
15:24:03 [atsushi]
addison: one exported, and another at local, and link can work from us
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r12a: which one should be exported or not, are required to be reviewed
15:24:40 [addison_]
[=CLDR=][[CLDR]]
15:26:13 [atsushi]
addison: will resolve comment
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zakim, take up agendum 6
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agendum 6 -- IRIs and the URL spec: what's our policy here? -- taken up [from agendabot]
15:26:48 [addison_]
https://w3c.github.io/bp-i18n-specdev/#resid_misc
15:26:58 [atsushi]
addison: fundamental question, are we happy with our current recommendation on IRIs?
15:26:58 [addison_]
https://github.com/w3c/rdf-concepts/issues/15
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https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/IRIStatus
15:27:58 [atsushi]
... what we tell people to do on IRIs, URLs are only for browsers
15:28:59 [atsushi]
r12a: no additional comment
15:29:16 [atsushi]
addison: I'm ok with saying this is merquee area, although
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... we deprecated in char-mod
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agenda?
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zakim, take up agendum 8
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agendum 8 -- Publish N'Ko Layout Requirements as FPWD Note? -- taken up [from agendabot]
15:31:04 [atsushi]
addison: publish as FPNOTE?
15:31:14 [addison_]
https://w3c.github.io/afrlreq/nko/
15:31:48 [atsushi]
r12a: been attracting attention from colleagues working on African languages
15:32:43 [atsushi]
... we've been talking about font styles
15:33:27 [atsushi]
... another one related to compound words,
15:34:04 [atsushi]
addison: publish as FPNOTE? first publish is people to look in
15:34:14 [atsushi]
addison: we need to vote for publishing
15:34:20 [Bert]
+1
15:34:20 [addison_]
+1
15:34:23 [atsushi]
+1
15:34:23 [r12a-again]
+1
15:35:05 [JcK]
+1
15:35:05 [xfq_]
+1
15:35:05 [addison_]
RESOLVED: publish n'ko layout requirements as first public note
15:35:11 [atsushi]
addison: resolved, and let'spublish
15:35:50 [atsushi]
r12a: similar to counter style, referred by CSS spec.
15:36:24 [atsushi]
... counter style for this, dot after numeric character would go under these character
15:36:33 [atsushi]
... could open question to colleagues
15:37:51 [r12a]
https://w3c.github.io/afrlreq/nko/#cs_ordinal
15:38:10 [atsushi]
xfq: one editorial, shortname should be fixed
15:38:39 [addison_]
zakim, take up agendum 7
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agendum 7 -- Update the W3C style guide I18N section? -- taken up [from agendabot]
15:38:54 [addison_]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2023JanMar/0081.html
15:39:07 [addison_]
https://www.w3.org/Guide/manual-of-style/#I18n
15:39:39 [atsushi]
addison: language subtags registry
15:39:51 [addison_]
%% Type: language Subtag: nqo Description: N'Ko Description: N’Ko
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‎02BC MODIFIER LETTER APOSTROPHE
15:42:02 [r12a]
U+2019: RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK
15:43:21 [atsushi]
addison: long ago, this is defined, and worked on char-mod after
15:44:39 [atsushi]
r12a: example is really weird...
15:46:06 [atsushi]
[chat about history and old stories]
15:47:39 [atsushi]
addison: deprecate bunch of these, and just point spec-dev or something else
15:47:46 [xfq_]
https://www.w3.org/Guide/manual-of-style/#Markup
15:48:01 [atsushi]
xfq: also i18n related things are in other sections also
15:49:57 [atsushi]
r12a: probabry be wise to write Colarie before starting
15:49:59 [addison_]
action: addison: write to coralie about the style guide
15:50:06 [ghurlbot]
Sorry, I don't know what repository to use.
15:50:06 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-1255 - Write to coralie about the style guide [on Addison Phillips - due 2023-03-23].
15:50:30 [addison_]
agenda?
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zakim, take up agendum 9
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agendum 9 -- AOB? -- taken up [from agendabot]
15:51:37 [atsushi]
[bert askes about github bot]
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ghurlbot, status?
15:53:17 [ghurlbot]
Bert, the delay is 15, issues are on, names are on; and no repositories are specified.
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ghurlbot --help
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ghurlbot help
15:56:09 [Bert]
Github: help?
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Github, help?
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/03/16-i18n-minutes.html addison_
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close action-1254
15:59:18 [trackbot]
Closed action-1254.
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close action-1252
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Closed action-1252.
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close action-1250
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Closed action-1250.
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s/Colarie/Coralie/
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scribe+ addison_
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zakim, bye
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leaving. As of this point the attendees have been addison, atsushi, Fuqiao, Felix, fsasaki, Eemeli, Richard, JcK
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