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14:30:15 <cmsmcq> Meeting:  Invisible XML community group teleconference
14:30:27 <cmsmcq> Scribe: cmsmcq
14:30:53 <cmsmcq> Previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2023/02/07-ixml-minutes
14:31:37 <cmsmcq> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Mar/0001.html
14:32:04 <cmsmcq> rrsagent, make log public
14:32:13 <cmsmcq> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:32:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/03/14-ixml-minutes.html cmsmcq
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14:40:34 <Steven> rrsagent, here
14:40:34 <RRSAgent> See https://www.w3.org/2023/03/14-ixml-irc#T14-40-34
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15:03:30 <cmsmcq> Chair: Steven
15:04:21 <cmsmcq> Topic: ACTION 2022-12-13-b
15:04:55 <cmsmcq> SP proposes (again) that we should publish both the RFC grammar and a second grammar that gives URIs a different structure.
15:05:05 <cmsmcq> Topic: ACTION 2022-12-13-c
15:05:12 <cmsmcq> Has been posted.  Take up next time.
15:05:24 <cmsmcq> Topic: Other actions
15:05:47 <cmsmcq> ACTION 2023-01-10-b - continued
15:06:23 <cmsmcq> ACTION 2023-01-10-d - initial proposal sent
15:06:44 <cmsmcq> So: done.
15:06:53 <cmsmcq> ACTION 2023-01-10-f continues.
15:07:14 <cmsmcq> ACTION 2023-01-10-g done.  On the agenda.
15:07:25 <cmsmcq> ACTION 2023-01-10-h continues.
15:07:32 <cmsmcq> ACTION 2023-02-07-a continues
15:07:54 <cmsmcq> ACTION 2023-02-07-b same proposal as 2023-01-10-d
15:08:02 <cmsmcq> ACTION 2023-02-07-c done
15:08:14 <cmsmcq> ACTION 2023-02-07-d done
15:09:06 <cmsmcq> ACTION 2023-02-07-e continues.  Bethan also to send a batch of stickers to SP for the Web conference in May.
15:10:20 <cmsmcq> Topic:  Status of implementations
15:11:05 <cmsmcq> NDW changed implementation of XSLT extension function to return a parse-against-given-grammar function.
15:11:18 <cmsmcq> JL will try to make his similar
15:11:49 <cmsmcq> Topic:  Status of testing and test suites
15:11:58 <cmsmcq> Nothing to report.
15:12:04 <cmsmcq> Topic:  publication plans
15:12:16 <cmsmcq> Web Conference reviewers have inquired about our publication plans:
15:12:16 <cmsmcq> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Mar/0000.html
15:12:51 <cmsmcq> SP:  the reviewer of his dev-track proposal clearly knew the right questions to ask.  The answer should presumably be 'yes'.
15:13:12 <cmsmcq> NW:  if we can figure out what the rules are, I'll see how hard it will be to do it.
15:13:26 <cmsmcq> ACTION: SP to find the rules so we can consider what needs to be done.
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15:13:53 <cmsmcq> s/the rules/the rules for publishing as community-group report/
15:14:39 <cmsmcq> ACTION: NDTW to take a first pass at generating the community-group report in a form that satisfies W3C rules.
15:16:26 <cmsmcq> Topic: modifying test catalog for Unicode and other dependencies
15:17:47 <cmsmcq> MSM talked us through the proposal.
15:32:44 <cmsmcq> MSM suggested that we need to distinguish three distinct things:  run-time options (which are there now in some test catalogs), environment properties (not under direct implementation control), and dependencies like the dependency on a given version of Unicode.
15:33:00 <cmsmcq> JL observed we might take a leaf from the QT3 test suite
15:51:30 <cmsmcq> We discussed the proposal and came the conclusion (in NDTW's words) that it could be done differently, but only experience will tell, so we should run with it for now.
15:52:01 <cmsmcq> ACTION: MSM to work out some examples of options, environment, and dependencies elements, and update the test catalog tag set documentation.
15:52:39 <cmsmcq> Topic: next meeting
15:52:53 <cmsmcq> April 11.
15:54:56 <cmsmcq> Adjourned at 54 minutes past the hour.
15:55:12 <cmsmcq> rrsagent, make minutes
15:55:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/03/14-ixml-minutes.html cmsmcq
15:56:32 <cmsmcq> Present: John Lumley, Steven Pemberton, Michael Sperberg-McQueen, Bethan Tovey-Walsh, Norm Tovey-Walsh
15:57:02 <cmsmcq> s/Topic: publication/Topic: Publication/
15:57:10 <cmsmcq> RRSAgent, please make minutes
15:57:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/03/14-ixml-minutes.html cmsmcq
15:57:53 <cmsmcq> s/Topic:  publication/Topic:  Publication/
15:57:59 <cmsmcq> RRSAgent, please make minutes
15:58:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/03/14-ixml-minutes.html cmsmcq
15:58:39 <cmsmcq> s/Topic: next meeting/Topic:  Next meeting/
15:58:44 <cmsmcq> RRSAgent, please make minutes
15:58:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/03/14-ixml-minutes.html cmsmcq
15:59:17 <cmsmcq> s/Topic: mod/Topic:  Mod/
15:59:29 <cmsmcq> RRSAgent, please make minutes
15:59:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/03/14-ixml-minutes.html cmsmcq
16:00:00 <cmsmcq> RRSAgent, bye
16:00:00 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in https://www.w3.org/2023/03/14-ixml-actions.rdf :
16:00:00 <RRSAgent> ACTION: SP to find the rules so we can consider what needs to be done. [1]
16:00:00 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2023/03/14-ixml-irc#T15-13-26
16:00:00 <RRSAgent> ACTION: NDTW to take a first pass at generating the community-group report in a form that satisfies W3C rules. [2]
16:00:00 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2023/03/14-ixml-irc#T15-14-39
16:00:00 <RRSAgent> ACTION: MSM to work out some examples of options, environment, and dependencies elements, and update the test catalog tag set documentation. [3]
16:00:00 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2023/03/14-ixml-irc#T15-52-01