IRC log of aria-apg on 2023-03-14
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- Meeting: ARIA Authoring Practice Guide
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- Chair: JaEun Jemma Ku
- 18:01:41 [jugglinmike]
- Zakim, start the meeting
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- RRSAgent, make logs Public
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- please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), jugglinmike
- 18:01:46 [Github]
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- MEETING: ARIA Authoring Practices Task Force Weekly Teleconference
- 18:03:11 [jugglinmike]
- present+
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- present+ Jem
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- present+ Matt_King
- 18:07:10 [jongund]
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- present+
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- present+
- 18:08:21 [jugglinmike]
- present+ jongund
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- Topic: Status of Site Updates
- 18:08:45 [jongund]
- present+ jongund
- 18:09:27 [jugglinmike]
- subtopic: Review updates to first AT support table - pull request #2569
- 18:09:27 [Jem]
- present+ JaeunJemmaKu
- 18:09:29 [Github]
- https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/2569 : Button Example: Add AT support tables from ARIA-AT
- 18:09:36 [Jem]
- present+ Jamesn
- 18:09:52 [Jem]
- present+ Bryan Garaventa
- 18:10:12 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: On Thursday, we talked about the sequence of events which needs to occur in order to merge the supports tables
- 18:10:29 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: Right now, this pull request is only adding an AT Support Table to the Button pattern
- 18:10:30 [Jem]
- preview: https://deploy-preview-206--aria-practices.netlify.app/aria/apg/patterns/button/examples/button/
- 18:12:20 [Jem]
- Alex's comment on the issue is available at https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/2569#issuecomment-1466824227
- 18:12:28 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: We're going to add three more: Radio, Link, and Alert
- 18:12:58 [jugglinmike]
- Alex (not present) has requested review from Matt_King
- 18:13:30 [jugglinmike]
- Alex )not present) is currently fixing an issue with the Candidate / Recommended algorithm identified by howard-e (also not present)
- 18:13:44 [jugglinmike]
- s/)not/(not/
- 18:14:28 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: Apple and Vispero will be giving their thumbs up on these before we publish
- 18:14:47 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: But when we do, we'll have five out of sixty-five covered. Gotta start somewhere!
- 18:15:54 [jugglinmike]
- Subtopic: About Page: Convert to an About section overview that links to several new pages within the about APG section
- 18:16:02 [jugglinmike]
- https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/2558
- 18:16:42 [jugglinmike]
- JaeunJemmaKu: It looks like Alex has fixed a spacing issue
- 18:17:39 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: I want to include this when we publish the support tables. It doesn't have to be exactly the same week, though. It should be the same week or the week before--just not after.
- 18:18:00 [jongund]
- https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pulls/jongund
- 18:18:46 [arigilmore]
- https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/2622 is this ready for review?
- 18:21:24 [jugglinmike]
- Subtopic: Combobox Date Picker Example: Change previous and next month and year behavior for dates near end of month
- 18:21:29 [jugglinmike]
- https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/2618
- 18:21:52 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: This one's on me and AlexFlenniken
- 18:22:16 [jugglinmike]
- jongund: AlexFlenniken did give me some feedback, and I've implemented that. Thank you AlexFlenniken!
- 18:22:40 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: AlexFlenniken may need to re-review, then, and I need to take a look, too.
- 18:23:12 [jugglinmike]
- Subtopic: added note related that aria-rolesdescription uses the language of the page
- 18:23:19 [jugglinmike]
- https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/2358
- 18:23:36 [jugglinmike]
- jongund: This is just a couple lines of text
- 18:23:46 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: This is assigned to me. It's on my "to-do" list
- 18:24:12 [jugglinmike]
- Subtopic: Listbox Examples: Update scrolling of listbox item with focus into view when page is magnified
- 18:24:17 [jugglinmike]
- https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/2622
- 18:39:28 [Jem]
- https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/Code-Guide
- 18:39:50 [Jem]
- jem: we can add this js lint use in code guide
- 18:40:03 [Jem]
- s/use/usage/
- 18:41:22 [jugglinmike]
- <jugglinmike> I've made a recommendation for how to address the linting errors that jongund identified last week
- 18:42:18 [jugglinmike]
- jugglinmike explains the technical details about the linting errors and configuring the linter (which is called ESLint)
- 18:42:53 [jugglinmike]
- <jugglinmike> My co-worker Aleena has updated my patch to your patch so that we can merge it to resolve your problem
- 18:44:07 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: The "global" ESLint directive seems a little hard to recognize. Lets see about documenting the project's use of ESLint
- 18:44:53 [jugglinmike]
- <jugglinmike> I can also see if there's a more self-documenting way to express that particular ESLint configuration
- 18:46:04 [jugglinmike]
- Topic: New Issue Action Planning
- 18:46:24 [jugglinmike]
- Subtopic: Labelling search inputs and regions
- 18:46:36 [jugglinmike]
- github: https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/2516
- 18:47:34 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: I think that when you're labeling a search box, you should label it according to what's being seached
- 18:47:51 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: This is particularly important when you have multiple search boxes on the same page
- 18:48:51 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: For example, if you're on the main Facebook homepage, there's a search labeled "Facebook search", and if you go to groups, there's a search labeled "Search groups", and if you go to a specific group, the label is for that specific group
- 18:49:06 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: That's my own personal view as a screen reader user, I wonder if that solves the problem
- 18:49:34 [jugglinmike]
- jamesn: I've never recommended people to use search landmarks, but then again, I'm not a screen reader user
- 18:49:53 [jugglinmike]
- jamesn: I'm wondering if screen reader users find the "search region" useful
- 18:50:16 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: There are a lot of screen reader users who only look for "Edit" fields
- 18:50:45 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: I've noticed a trend toward more and more searches not being edit fields by default
- 18:50:50 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King:
- 18:51:03 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: In those cases, the search region can be very useful
- 18:52:04 [jugglinmike]
- jamesn: So if there's multiple fields, then I think a search region is good to associate them. However, a search region seems superfluous to add around a single field.
- 18:52:45 [Jem]
- mike, can we post to git hub comments?
- 18:53:38 [jamesn]
- "A landmark region that contains a collection of items and objects that, as a whole, combine to create a search facility. See related form and searchbox."
- 18:53:55 [jugglinmike]
- Bryan Garaventa: That seems right to me
- 18:54:57 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: A label for a search field should not be "search," it should describe what you're searching
- 18:57:11 [jugglinmike]
- JaeunJemmaKu: How should we label this issue?
- 18:57:32 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: I want to review the search landmark page
- 18:57:46 [jugglinmike]
- jongund: you can assign it to me
- 18:58:28 [jugglinmike]
- Matt_King: I've added two labels, "feedback" and "question"
- 18:58:42 [jugglinmike]
- arigilmore: I'll take a look, as well
- 19:01:38 [jugglinmike]
- Zakim, end the meeting
- 19:01:38 [Zakim]
- As of this point the attendees have been jugglinmike, Jem, Matt_King, MarkMcCarthy, arigilmore, jongund, JaeunJemmaKu, Jamesn, Bryan, Garaventa
- 19:01:41 [Zakim]
- RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/03/14-aria-apg-minutes.html Zakim
- 19:01:49 [Zakim]
- I am happy to have been of service, jugglinmike; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye
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- 19:02:37 [jugglinmike]
- Jem: It looks like Zakim doesn't understand spaces in people's names. See above: "Bryan, Garaventa"
- 19:03:06 [jugglinmike]
- So I guess next time, we'll write something like "present+ Bryan_Garaventa" instead
- 19:03:23 [jugglinmike]
- RRSAgent: leave
- 19:03:23 [RRSAgent]
- I see no action items