IRC log of aria-apg on 2023-03-14

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Meeting: ARIA Authoring Practice Guide
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Chair: JaEun Jemma Ku
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Zakim, start the meeting
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please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), jugglinmike
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MEETING: ARIA Authoring Practices Task Force Weekly Teleconference
18:03:11 [jugglinmike]
present+
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present+ Jem
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present+ Matt_King
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present+
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18:08:21 [jugglinmike]
present+ jongund
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Topic: Status of Site Updates
18:08:45 [jongund]
present+ jongund
18:09:27 [jugglinmike]
subtopic: Review updates to first AT support table - pull request #2569
18:09:27 [Jem]
present+ JaeunJemmaKu
18:09:29 [Github]
https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/2569 : Button Example: Add AT support tables from ARIA-AT
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present+ Jamesn
18:09:52 [Jem]
present+ Bryan Garaventa
18:10:12 [jugglinmike]
Matt_King: On Thursday, we talked about the sequence of events which needs to occur in order to merge the supports tables
18:10:29 [jugglinmike]
Matt_King: Right now, this pull request is only adding an AT Support Table to the Button pattern
18:10:30 [Jem]
preview: https://deploy-preview-206--aria-practices.netlify.app/aria/apg/patterns/button/examples/button/
18:12:20 [Jem]
Alex's comment on the issue is available at https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/2569#issuecomment-1466824227
18:12:28 [jugglinmike]
Matt_King: We're going to add three more: Radio, Link, and Alert
18:12:58 [jugglinmike]
Alex (not present) has requested review from Matt_King
18:13:30 [jugglinmike]
Alex )not present) is currently fixing an issue with the Candidate / Recommended algorithm identified by howard-e (also not present)
18:13:44 [jugglinmike]
s/)not/(not/
18:14:28 [jugglinmike]
Matt_King: Apple and Vispero will be giving their thumbs up on these before we publish
18:14:47 [jugglinmike]
Matt_King: But when we do, we'll have five out of sixty-five covered. Gotta start somewhere!
18:15:54 [jugglinmike]
Subtopic: About Page: Convert to an About section overview that links to several new pages within the about APG section
18:16:02 [jugglinmike]
https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/2558
18:16:42 [jugglinmike]
JaeunJemmaKu: It looks like Alex has fixed a spacing issue
18:17:39 [jugglinmike]
Matt_King: I want to include this when we publish the support tables. It doesn't have to be exactly the same week, though. It should be the same week or the week before--just not after.
18:18:00 [jongund]
https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pulls/jongund
18:18:46 [arigilmore]
https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/2622 is this ready for review?
18:21:24 [jugglinmike]
Subtopic: Combobox Date Picker Example: Change previous and next month and year behavior for dates near end of month
18:21:29 [jugglinmike]
https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/2618
18:21:52 [jugglinmike]
Matt_King: This one's on me and AlexFlenniken
18:22:16 [jugglinmike]
jongund: AlexFlenniken did give me some feedback, and I've implemented that. Thank you AlexFlenniken!
18:22:40 [jugglinmike]
Matt_King: AlexFlenniken may need to re-review, then, and I need to take a look, too.
18:23:12 [jugglinmike]
Subtopic: added note related that aria-rolesdescription uses the language of the page
18:23:19 [jugglinmike]
https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/2358
18:23:36 [jugglinmike]
jongund: This is just a couple lines of text
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Matt_King: This is assigned to me. It's on my "to-do" list
18:24:12 [jugglinmike]
Subtopic: Listbox Examples: Update scrolling of listbox item with focus into view when page is magnified
18:24:17 [jugglinmike]
https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/2622
18:39:28 [Jem]
https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/Code-Guide
18:39:50 [Jem]
jem: we can add this js lint use in code guide
18:40:03 [Jem]
s/use/usage/
18:41:22 [jugglinmike]
<jugglinmike> I've made a recommendation for how to address the linting errors that jongund identified last week
18:42:18 [jugglinmike]
jugglinmike explains the technical details about the linting errors and configuring the linter (which is called ESLint)
18:42:53 [jugglinmike]
<jugglinmike> My co-worker Aleena has updated my patch to your patch so that we can merge it to resolve your problem
18:44:07 [jugglinmike]
Matt_King: The "global" ESLint directive seems a little hard to recognize. Lets see about documenting the project's use of ESLint
18:44:53 [jugglinmike]
<jugglinmike> I can also see if there's a more self-documenting way to express that particular ESLint configuration
18:46:04 [jugglinmike]
Topic: New Issue Action Planning
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Subtopic: Labelling search inputs and regions
18:46:36 [jugglinmike]
github: https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/2516
18:47:34 [jugglinmike]
Matt_King: I think that when you're labeling a search box, you should label it according to what's being seached
18:47:51 [jugglinmike]
Matt_King: This is particularly important when you have multiple search boxes on the same page
18:48:51 [jugglinmike]
Matt_King: For example, if you're on the main Facebook homepage, there's a search labeled "Facebook search", and if you go to groups, there's a search labeled "Search groups", and if you go to a specific group, the label is for that specific group
18:49:06 [jugglinmike]
Matt_King: That's my own personal view as a screen reader user, I wonder if that solves the problem
18:49:34 [jugglinmike]
jamesn: I've never recommended people to use search landmarks, but then again, I'm not a screen reader user
18:49:53 [jugglinmike]
jamesn: I'm wondering if screen reader users find the "search region" useful
18:50:16 [jugglinmike]
Matt_King: There are a lot of screen reader users who only look for "Edit" fields
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Matt_King: I've noticed a trend toward more and more searches not being edit fields by default
18:50:50 [jugglinmike]
Matt_King:
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Matt_King: In those cases, the search region can be very useful
18:52:04 [jugglinmike]
jamesn: So if there's multiple fields, then I think a search region is good to associate them. However, a search region seems superfluous to add around a single field.
18:52:45 [Jem]
mike, can we post to git hub comments?
18:53:38 [jamesn]
"A landmark region that contains a collection of items and objects that, as a whole, combine to create a search facility. See related form and searchbox."
18:53:55 [jugglinmike]
Bryan Garaventa: That seems right to me
18:54:57 [jugglinmike]
Matt_King: A label for a search field should not be "search," it should describe what you're searching
18:57:11 [jugglinmike]
JaeunJemmaKu: How should we label this issue?
18:57:32 [jugglinmike]
Matt_King: I want to review the search landmark page
18:57:46 [jugglinmike]
jongund: you can assign it to me
18:58:28 [jugglinmike]
Matt_King: I've added two labels, "feedback" and "question"
18:58:42 [jugglinmike]
arigilmore: I'll take a look, as well
19:01:38 [jugglinmike]
Zakim, end the meeting
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As of this point the attendees have been jugglinmike, Jem, Matt_King, MarkMcCarthy, arigilmore, jongund, JaeunJemmaKu, Jamesn, Bryan, Garaventa
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RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/03/14-aria-apg-minutes.html Zakim
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I am happy to have been of service, jugglinmike; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye
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19:02:37 [jugglinmike]
Jem: It looks like Zakim doesn't understand spaces in people's names. See above: "Bryan, Garaventa"
19:03:06 [jugglinmike]
So I guess next time, we'll write something like "present+ Bryan_Garaventa" instead
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RRSAgent: leave
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I see no action items