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19:55:52 <Matt_King> MEETING: ARIA and Assistive Technologies Community Group
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20:01:04 <Matt_King> TOPIC: Meeting Setup
20:01:22 <Matt_King> You can find agenda at https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/650036c5-df72-4f8e-942f-cd1dcda7df73/20230309T120000
20:01:31 <Matt_King> rrsagent, make minutes
20:01:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/03/09-aria-at-minutes.html Matt_King
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20:04:38 <jugglinmike> Zakim, start the meeting
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20:04:40 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), jugglinmike
20:04:43 <Sam_Shaw> Agenda: No meeting on March 16, Meeting tine survey part 2, AT Support Table, Launch Plan App update plan
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20:05:07 <Matt_King> present+ Isabel
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20:05:43 <Matt_King> TOPIC: Meeting schedule
20:06:04 <jugglinmike> scribe: jugglinmike
20:06:32 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: both AXE Con and CSUN are happening next week
20:07:06 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: that means I won't be able to lead, so let's plan to skip next week's meeting and continue as scheduled on March 23
20:07:33 <Sam_Shaw> Link to meeting Poll: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdr5DvJH77TQwvSrHTi4JHJKKPZadrurPun13xJ4FKHgPDw1Q/viewform?usp=sf_link
20:08:15 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: This is "round 2" of the survey. I'll make that clear in an announcement that I send to the list
20:09:04 <jugglinmike> Topic: AT Support Table Launch Plan
20:09:14 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: Several things are coming together to make this happen
20:09:37 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: First, get the preview of "support tables" ready for the five tables we've tested
20:09:52 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: Then send some communications to Apple and Vispero that they're ready
20:10:06 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: Prepare some public communications
20:10:19 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: (oh, I skipped over the testing we've already done)
20:10:32 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: Then share our projected outlook for testing in 2024 and beyond
20:10:47 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: I'd like to have all of this done by the end of this month [March]
20:12:09 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: I'll have a draft of the announcement (which will be a W3C blog post) by our next meeting [March 23]
20:13:30 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: https://deploy-preview-206--aria-practices.netlify.app/aria/apg/patterns/button/examples/button/
20:13:41 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: All of the feedback which we previously discussed is all here
20:13:54 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: Keep in mind that all of the URLs are pointing at Bocoup's "sandbox" server
20:14:33 <jugglinmike> AlexFlenniken: there are a few pull requests which need to be merged in a certain order to make this happen
20:14:50 <jugglinmike> AlexFlenniken: we've merged the bulk of the work already--that's what's visible on the "sandbox" server
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20:19:52 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: Next in line is updating aria-at-app, and then I want to update the APG pull request
20:20:10 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: I'd like to add support tables to Radio, Alert, and Link in APG
20:20:43 <jugglinmike> AlexFlenniken: currently, you'd need to get the iframe code which exists and then update the values in the code
20:21:23 <jugglinmike> AlexFlenniken: we don't have a UI for generating that code right now
20:21:33 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: I don't know if I want to make that public-facing, yet
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20:24:30 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: the support tables look pretty awesome to me
20:25:52 <jugglinmike> howard-e: We are versioning VoiceOver according to the macOS version in use, not a version number that Apple has specifically assigned to Voiceover
20:26:28 <jugglinmike> Isabel: I am maintaining the AT version information
20:28:47 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: I've previosly asked Alex to replace the cells which say "none" to instead say "no data" (since the term "none" can be misleading in the context of a support table)
20:29:05 <jugglinmike> s/previosly/previously/
20:29:41 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: And I also requested a change to the warning text
20:30:49 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: Is the code ready to handle Test Plans in the "Recommended" phase?
20:31:28 <jugglinmike> AlexFlenniken: It's not hard coded. It is, in fact, dynamically pulling in the value.
20:32:06 <jugglinmike> s/Test Plans/data/
20:32:34 <jugglinmike> AlexFlenniken: That said, the code doesn't have copy text for that phase, so we'll need another patch to add that
20:35:49 <jugglinmike> howard-e: The copy that appears ("warning" in a disclosure element on the "reports" page). When we move a plan to "recommended", that disclosure changes from a warning to "recommended report." It isn't available right now, but I wrote the code and can merge it today and deploy it at any time
20:36:51 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: Can we move some of these to "Recommended" before we launch?
20:37:06 <jugglinmike> James: purely in terms of the data which we have available, the answer is "yes"
20:38:55 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: For this launch, we'll be using the first five patterns: the two buttons, link, radio, and alert
20:39:30 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: So, to recap
20:39:43 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: The first things that need to be merged will be merged in the app
20:40:43 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: But first, we have three fixes: two changes to copy, the Date problem (which I need to raise an issue in the ARIA-AT App to make sure the problem is understood), and for howard-e to merge the changes to the sandbox so we can ensure the transition to "recommended" works as expected
20:40:57 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: Once all those are done, I think we'll be able to merge the changes to ARIA-AT App
20:41:08 <jugglinmike> AlexFlenniken: That sounds right to me!
20:41:30 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: Once that's merge, does that mean that the preview in ARIA-Practices would then point to the production ARIA-AT site?
20:41:51 <jugglinmike> AlexFlenniken: Yes. Once ARIA-AT App is updated, I'll update ARIA-Practices to use production
20:42:09 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: So we have to change the iframe code there
20:42:24 <jugglinmike> AlexFlenniken: right, because they're currently pointed at the sandbox server
20:42:42 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: Okay. Then once that's all done, I can send preview links to Apple and Vispero
20:44:03 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: if we get those e-mails out around the 21st or 22nd [of March], then we can talk about the quarterly plan for future testing and work that into the announcement
20:44:25 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: I think that gets all our "ducks lined up" in terms of what we need for the launch
20:45:05 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: It looks like the actual publication will occur during the first week in April
20:45:21 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: Once we verify that's all good, we'll do our communications (blog posts, tweets, and all of that stuff)
20:47:27 <jugglinmike> Zakim, end the meeting
20:47:27 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Matt_King, Sam_Shaw, James, Isabel, howard-e, AlexFlenniken
20:47:29 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
20:47:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/03/09-aria-at-minutes.html Zakim
20:47:37 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, jugglinmike; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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20:47:45 <jugglinmike> RRSAgent: leave
20:47:45 <RRSAgent> I see no action items