IRC log of wot-script on 2023-03-06
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- logging to https://www.w3.org/2023/03/06-wot-script-irc
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- meeting: WoT Scripting API
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- present+ Kaz_Ashimura
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- present+ Daniel_Peintner
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- present+ Cristiano_Aguzzi, Tomoaki_Mizushima
- 12:09:24 [dape]
- TOPIC: Previous minutes
- 12:09:26 [cris_]
- topic: previous minutes
- 12:09:28 [kaz]
- scribenick: cris_
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- s/topic: previous minutes//
- 12:09:42 [dape]
- -> March 27 -> https://www.w3.org/2023/02/27-wot-script-minutes.html
- 12:09:49 [kaz]
- s/March/Feb/
- 12:10:09 [cris_]
- dape: we reviewed two PRs
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- ... and issues
- 12:10:27 [cris_]
- ... we discussed about biblio refs and versioning
- 12:11:42 [cris_]
- ... the summary is that we are going to use git tags and publish more often
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- ... minutes look good
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- ... any objections
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- ... ok approved
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- 12:12:21 [cris_]
- topic: Quick updates
- 12:12:39 [cris_]
- dape: remember the Daylight saving time change
- 12:12:43 [dape]
- -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-wg/2023Feb/0015.html
- 12:12:44 [zkis]
- present+ Zoltan_Kis
- 12:13:45 [cris_]
- ... in the next two weeks we are going to accommodate our time slot to compensate with the different time changes in different countries
- 12:14:09 [cris_]
- ... please use the calendar invites
- 12:14:32 [cris_]
- ... does anyone have any problem with the new timing?
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- cris: it's ok for me
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- zoltan: good for me too
- 12:15:31 [kaz]
- q+
- 12:15:33 [cris_]
- dape: I'll ask Cristiano to chair the next two calls
- 12:15:54 [cris_]
- kaz: the time change in Europe is just for two week
- 12:15:58 [cris_]
- dape: correct
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- s/two week/two weeks/
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- ack k
- 12:16:39 [cris_]
- dape: I'd not cancel the calls because we need to finalize the note doc soon
- 12:16:54 [kaz]
- s/0015.html/0015.html Kaz's message on DST change (Member-only)/
- 12:17:10 [cris_]
- ... other comments?
- 12:17:24 [cris_]
- ... ok
- 12:17:37 [cris_]
- subtopic: Note pubblication
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- dape: we have two weeks for the pubblication
- 12:17:56 [cris_]
- ... keep it in mind
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- topic: Next charter
- 12:18:18 [dape]
- -> https://w3c.github.io/wot-charter-drafts/wot-wg-2023-draft.html
- 12:18:22 [cris_]
- dape: please review the current draft
- 12:18:31 [cris_]
- ... scripting is mentioned as other deliverable
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- ... we didn't talk about if the Scripting API should became a Rec document
- 12:19:03 [cris_]
- ... we should bring this up again
- 12:19:20 [cris_]
- ... Kaz do you want to bring this up in the main call?
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- kaz: we can ping the chairs beforehand
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- dape: it is better if you ping them
- 12:20:09 [cris_]
- ... since you also talked with Philip
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- topic: PRs
- 12:20:54 [cris_]
- dape: let's pick first the easy one
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- subtopic: PR 460
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- -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/pull/460
- 12:21:20 [cris_]
- dape: there was a missing dependency in TS definitions
- 12:21:24 [kaz]
- s/should became/should become/
- 12:21:31 [cris_]
- ... the PR simply updates the package.json
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- ... any objections?
- 12:21:59 [kaz]
- s/draft.html/draft.html Draft WoT WG Charter/
- 12:22:01 [cris_]
- ... merged
- 12:22:08 [cris_]
- subtopic: PR 461
- 12:22:13 [dape]
- -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/pull/461
- 12:22:18 [kaz]
- s/Philip/Philippe/
- 12:22:26 [cris_]
- dape: it is a PR from my side
- 12:22:39 [cris_]
- ... it tackles optional values
- 12:22:56 [cris_]
- ... in webIDL we have some constraints
- 12:23:25 [kaz]
- s|pull/460|pull/460 PR 460 - add wot-thing-description-types as dependency for scripting api|
- 12:23:33 [cris_]
- ... the PR is very simple in changes the prose
- 12:23:42 [cris_]
- ... to handle undefiend values
- 12:23:52 [kaz]
- s|pull/461|pull/461 PR 461 - add undefined where missing in prose|
- 12:23:56 [cris_]
- ... but do we need this null initialization ?
- 12:24:57 [cris_]
- ... it seems that I cannot use undefined to replace null
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- zoltan: are you sure?
- 12:25:17 [cris_]
- ... it seems the problem is not related to that change
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- q?
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- q+
- 12:27:29 [kaz]
- zakim, who is on the call?
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- Present: Kaz_Ashimura, Daniel_Peintner, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Zoltan_Kis
- 12:27:30 [zkis]
- ack cris
- 12:28:26 [cris_]
- zoltan: actually we can use the error and change the default to {}
- 12:28:29 [cris_]
- cris: I agree
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- dape: shall I update the TS definitions too?
- 12:29:57 [cris_]
- zoltan: yes
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- cris: +1
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- subtopic: PR 462
- 12:32:00 [dape]
- -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/pull/462
- 12:32:46 [kaz]
- s|pull/462|pull/462 PR 462 - Update README.md with versioning information|
- 12:34:08 [dape]
- q+
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- q?
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- cris: changed the Readme
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- ... with guidelines for versioning
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- dape: usually we use snapshot for expiremental features
- 12:35:14 [kaz]
- q+
- 12:35:32 [cris_]
- ... but for releases we just remove snapshots
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- q+
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- ack dape
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- ack k
- 12:36:44 [cris_]
- kaz: I was confused, we should clarify which information should be included in each file, together with what major.minor.patch means.
- 12:37:09 [kaz]
- s/I was/I'm a bit/
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- s/confused,/confused./
- 12:38:13 [kaz]
- s/in each file, together with/in which file, in addition to the notation on/
- 12:38:38 [kaz]
- s/in addition to/along with/
- 12:39:40 [cris_]
- cris: release tag might be good for pintpoint explicity that we published the doc
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- ... and I agree we should explain where to put the versioning info and explain major.minor.patch
- 12:41:05 [dape]
- q?
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- ack cris_
- 12:42:52 [cris_]
- cris: how should we decide which version gonna be
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- ?
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- s/?/... ?/
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- dape: I think we can do at the publication time
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- cris: +1
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- 1+
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- q+
- 12:44:55 [cris_]
- cris: isn't a little bit confusing to tag stuff with 0.8.1-snapshot and then suddenly change it to 0.9.0
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- dape: yes but we can't help to do it otherwise
- 12:45:38 [cris_]
- cris: ok I'll capture this in the readme for the next week
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- subtopic: 463
- 12:45:48 [dape]
- -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/pull/463
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- s/463/Pr 463/
- 12:49:52 [zkis]
- We should use https://webidl.spec.whatwg.org/#record-type
- 12:50:09 [cris_]
- cris: I spot a mistake, I think we are using the wrong key for internal slots
- 12:50:13 [cris_]
- ... in algs
- 12:51:01 [kaz]
- s|pull/463|pull/463 PR 463 - Fix internal slot in event handlers|
- 12:51:19 [cris_]
- zoltan: we should use record instead of pairs
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- s/pairs/Map/
- 12:53:46 [cris_]
- zoltan: we should use name too
- 12:54:26 [cris_]
- dape: do we need interaction variable?
- 12:54:29 [cris_]
- cris: probably not
- 12:54:37 [cris_]
- zoltan: yes I agree
- 12:55:35 [cris_]
- zoltan: on the other hand pair is fine
- 12:56:55 [cris_]
- ... actually more modern spec uses tuples
- 12:57:19 [zkis]
- Instead of pair, use tuple https://infra.spec.whatwg.org/#tuple
- 12:59:31 [cris_]
- cris: section 9.25 what should happen if there is no event subscription handler?
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- zoltan: should there be a error ?
- 13:00:37 [kaz]
- q+
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- ack c
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- ack k
- 13:01:04 [cris_]
- cris: maybe
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- dape: ok closing the call
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- ... keep in mind that there are some issues tagged with spec improvments
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- ... that we need to tackle in the next weeks
- 13:01:46 [kaz]
- i/dape/kaz: we're out of time. so let's continue this discussion next week./
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- [adjourned]
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- i/kaz:/scribenick: kaz/
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- i/dape:/scribenick: cris_/
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- rrsagent, make log public
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/03/06-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
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