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15:03:18 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Lionel_Wolberger
15:03:38 <Lionel_Wolberger> Meeting: Adapt Task Force Monday 27 February Teleconference
15:03:58 <Lionel_Wolberger> Date: 27 February 2023
15:04:04 <Lionel_Wolberger> Chair: Lionel
15:04:06 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+
15:04:12 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
15:04:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/02/27-adapt-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
15:04:51 <Sharon> present+
15:05:59 <janina> present+
15:06:02 <janina> scribe+
15:06:07 <janina> zakim, take up item 1
15:06:07 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Recruiting -- taken up [from Sharon]
15:06:29 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Asking who might be at CSUN?
15:06:51 <Roy> scribe: Roy
15:07:11 <Lionel_Wolberger> Topic: Zero Project report, focus on Symbols
15:07:22 <Roy> Lionel_Wolberger: I was at zero prject
15:07:39 <Roy> ... presented AI
15:08:12 <Roy> ... we're getting risk around issues around disabled people and AI inclusion
15:08:23 <Roy> ... also report to RQTF
15:09:03 <Roy> ... like from bitcom from Germany
15:09:48 <Roy> ... spend some time with David Bain?
15:10:23 <Roy> ... global symbols is goning to help us and been along with us
15:11:22 <Roy> ... mocrisoft demonstrated a symbol mark up on edge, new to me
15:11:55 <Roy> s/mocrisoft/Microsoft/
15:12:40 <Roy> ... this is doing mark up,
15:12:55 <Lionel_Wolberger> scribe+
15:13:34 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel: The Microsoft immersive Reader will decorate pages in the Microsoft Edge browser, with symbols
15:14:54 <Roy> matatk: knew Microsoft was doing something on symbols, someone from coga knew more about this
15:16:03 <Roy> ... I think we should ask around in Coga
15:16:16 <Roy> janina: I will confirm with Lisa
15:16:47 <Lionel_Wolberger> q+
15:17:48 <Roy> ack Lionel_Wolberger
15:17:49 <Lionel_Wolberger> ack Lionel_Wolberger
15:18:16 <matatk> q+
15:18:57 <Roy> Lionel_Wolberger: acknowledge that happy to hear COGA people know about it
15:19:38 <Roy> ... @@1, this may give them a door
15:19:45 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda?
15:20:21 <matatk> ack me
15:20:33 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel: The Immersive Reader has many features that help people with Cognitive and Learning Disabilities
15:21:03 <Roy> matatk: all the main browsers had something called a redo mode, or a reader view
15:21:20 <Lionel_Wolberger> s/redo/reader
15:21:53 <Lionel_Wolberger> q+
15:22:07 <Roy> ... they do work pretty well and good for removing distractions
15:22:11 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
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15:22:24 <Roy> ... maybe something we should think about
15:22:40 <Lionel_Wolberger> Topic: Reader Mode
15:23:04 <Lionel_Wolberger> matatk: Surprising that we haven't discussed this in the past
15:24:27 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... Reader Mode (or Reader View), is based on guesswork and not markup
15:25:01 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: It approximates the elimination of distractions
15:25:31 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: We can leverage this type of mode. Authoring will never fully markup in this way, but maybe having forms marked up in this mode
15:25:45 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... would allow the form to be served up in digestible chunks
15:25:56 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda?
15:26:05 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
15:26:05 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, Lionel_Wolberger
15:26:12 <Lionel_Wolberger> ack Lionel_Wolberger
15:26:12 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
15:26:13 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- updates on A11y4Children -- taken up [from Sharon]
15:26:34 <Roy> janina: no news from me
15:26:48 <Roy> ... waiting fro an ontology from them
15:27:13 <Roy> ... we can look at it and see what value we can take from that
15:27:33 <Roy> zakim, next item
15:27:33 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Gap Analysis -- taken up [from from matatk]
15:28:00 <Roy> matatk: study from different format, like micro format
15:28:42 <Roy> ... I haven't made any progress at the moment
15:29:39 <Roy> Lionel_Wolberger: we can decide which one were tracking first?
15:29:51 <matatk> Current page on this: https://github.com/w3c/adapt/wiki/Comparison-of-ways-to-use-vocabulary-in-content
15:30:01 <Roy> matatk: there is wiki page on our repo
15:30:21 <Roy> ... now we want to add to this micro formats
15:31:08 <Roy> ... I have done some research, that approach is also working ro other W3C groups
15:31:50 <Roy> ... we need harmonize this page , to make sure that we are happy with different teck
15:32:10 <Roy> s/teck/technology
15:33:18 <Roy> Lionel_Wolberger: there is a separate page about micro formats
15:34:02 <Roy> matatk: there is a note as mentioned as micro formats, that's  a link to a different domain
15:36:44 <Roy> Lionel_Wolberger: how will we capture theses decisions? git or wiki
15:36:49 <janina> q+
15:37:20 <Roy> ... I think we'd better to use git
15:38:35 <Roy> matatk: I would like suggest to start this work in Wiki, and we can always roll back changes if we decide
15:39:33 <Roy> ... the question is this is a list of different type of individual attributes that are going to considerate
15:41:31 <Roy> ... some example for micro formats like dpub
15:42:29 <Roy> ... media queries are going to @@
15:42:54 <Roy> ... I guess we can skip a lot of those matrix
15:43:10 <Roy> janina: we should update whatever we do
15:43:11 <Lionel_Wolberger> matatk: We dont have to tackle the entire spec, we can compare one at a time. E.g., we can assess distractions to media queries
15:43:42 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... "skip a lot of those in the matrix" -- we don't have to populate every Adapt markup with every alternative
15:43:47 <Roy> ... maybe we can add it to our homepage
15:45:11 <janina> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/adapt/
15:45:12 <Roy> janina: we should decide do we want it on our homepage
15:46:45 <Roy> matatk: the problem is we hadn't looked at micro format yet
15:48:44 <Roy> Lionel_Wolberger: we can follow up this topic next week
15:49:22 <Roy> ... should we think about symbols?
15:50:11 <Roy> matatk: I think it's OK with symbol
15:52:01 <Lionel_Wolberger> Topic: Registries
15:52:27 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: The Symbol Registry started in W3C-WAI, but now it's time to bring it into APA
15:52:39 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... I propose that it is to be owned by Adapt
15:52:55 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... need follow-up conversations with the Bliss People and the Open Symbols People
15:53:09 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... pull the Open Symbols people into meetings with BCI
15:53:30 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... nextL how to better manage i18n on the concept of indexing
15:53:41 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... internationalizing and localizing the label for each indexed item
15:53:57 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... once we add this i18n does it change the symbols referenced at all?
15:54:04 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... This is a question that we need answered
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