IRC log of rdf-star on 2023-02-22

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logging to https://www.w3.org/2023/02/22-rdf-star-irc
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17:00:30 [gkellogg]
zakim, who's here?
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Present: (no one)
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On IRC I see ora, pfps, RRSAgent, Zakim, enrico, AndyS, gkellogg, TallTed, VladimirAlexiev, ghurlbot, csarven, Tpt, Timothe, ktk, gtw, rhiaro, agendabot, pchampin
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present+
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`/invite zakim` and `/invite rrsagent` help
17:01:01 [gkellogg]
meeeting: RDF-star Editor's meeting
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chair: gkellogg
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meeting: RDF-star Editor's meeting
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TallTed has changed the topic to: RDF-Star WG — 2023-02-22 Editors Call — pro forma Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-star-wg/2023Feb/0133.html
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q+
17:04:50 [gkellogg]
ack TallTed
17:04:57 [Dominik_T]
present+
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present+
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q+
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q-
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q-
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q+
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present+
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q+ to suggest we use the queue
17:08:48 [AndyS]
zakim, who is here?
17:08:48 [Zakim]
Present: gtw, Dominik_T, AndyS_, ora
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On IRC I see Doerthe, AndyS, olaf, Dominik_T, ora, pfps, RRSAgent, Zakim, enrico, gkellogg, TallTed, VladimirAlexiev, ghurlbot, csarven, Tpt, Timothe, ktk, gtw, rhiaro, agendabot,
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... pchampin
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q?
17:13:38 [gkellogg]
ack AndyS
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q+ in issues
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ack ora
17:18:28 [Zakim]
ora, you wanted to suggest we use the queue
17:18:48 [VladimirAlexiev]
present+
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q- in, issues
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q+ pfps to talk about issues
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q+ to say that W3C work is public and open; once it was done on publicly visible wikis; now it's largely done via publicly visible github. Also, we're expected to address all issues, substantive or not, raised by group members or otherwise, with substantive responses.
17:19:45 [gkellogg]
ack pfps
17:19:45 [Zakim]
pfps, you wanted to talk about issues
17:20:36 [ora]
q+
17:20:53 [gkellogg]
q+ to ask about the direction on errata
17:21:00 [gkellogg]
ack TallTed
17:21:00 [Zakim]
TallTed, you wanted to say that W3C work is public and open; once it was done on publicly visible wikis; now it's largely done via publicly visible github. Also, we're expected to
17:21:03 [Zakim]
... address all issues, substantive or not, raised by group members or otherwise, with substantive responses.
17:23:08 [ora]
ack ora
17:23:13 [pfps]
q+
17:24:22 [gkellogg]
ack me
17:24:22 [Zakim]
gkellogg, you wanted to ask about the direction on errata
17:25:05 [AndyS]
q+
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ack pfps
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q-
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q+ to talk about PR cycle
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ack AndyS
17:29:36 [Zakim]
AndyS, you wanted to talk about PR cycle
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q+ to suggest that working in public tends to keep things from happening "under the radar", and to note that editors are the only ones (who should be) empowered to merge PRs, which should reflect WG decisions (often, resolutions are taken up to approve such merging)
17:30:47 [ora]
q+
17:30:53 [gkellogg]
ack TallTed
17:30:55 [Zakim]
TallTed, you wanted to suggest that working in public tends to keep things from happening "under the radar", and to note that editors are the only ones (who should be) empowered to
17:30:57 [Zakim]
... merge PRs, which should reflect WG decisions (often, resolutions are taken up to approve such merging)
17:30:59 [pfps]
it should be easy to get truly editorial changes in, but technical changes should require input from the WG
17:32:13 [gkellogg]
q+ to ask about the burden on the group of considering every PR and issue. Also, the GitHub requirements for merging a PR after a change has been requested.
17:33:37 [gkellogg]
ack ora
17:33:43 [pfps]
q+ to discuss hiding in plain sight
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q+
17:35:24 [TallTed]
I refer you all to https://www.w3.org/2021/Process-20211102/ "Issue Tracking: Github (preferred), Public mailing list, Member-only mailing list" etc.
17:35:26 [gkellogg]
ack me
17:35:26 [Zakim]
gkellogg, you wanted to ask about the burden on the group of considering every PR and issue. Also, the GitHub requirements for merging a PR after a change has been requested.
17:36:14 [TallTed]
q+ to note the above Process document...
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q+
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ack pfps
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pfps, you wanted to discuss hiding in plain sight and to
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ack AndyS
17:41:04 [VladimirAlexiev]
q+ on being pragmatic and simplify approaches
17:43:00 [pfps]
oops no errata for rdf:JSON that I can find
17:44:01 [ora]
I like the idea of a delay or grace period
17:44:02 [gkellogg]
ack TallTed
17:44:02 [Zakim]
TallTed, you wanted to note the above Process document...
17:44:11 [gkellogg]
q+ to suggest using CODEOWNERS
17:45:03 [AndyS]
BTW Pubrules https://www3.org/pubrules/ is off line. :-)
17:45:17 [pfps]
q+ on issues
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q+ on technical errata
17:47:31 [ora]
https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/15/health/oxford-comma-maine-court-case-trnd/index.html
17:47:51 [ora]
Commas *do* matter. ;-)
17:48:13 [gkellogg]
ack VladimirAlexiev
17:48:13 [Zakim]
VladimirAlexiev, you wanted to comment on being pragmatic and simplify approaches
17:51:11 [AndyS]
q?
17:51:14 [pfps]
is LPG the main use case for RDF-star??
17:51:15 [ora]
+1 to simplicity!
17:51:57 [gkellogg]
ack me
17:51:57 [Zakim]
gkellogg, you wanted to suggest using CODEOWNERS
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Not the *main* use case as far as I know.
17:53:19 [gkellogg]
q?
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ack pfps
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pfps, you wanted to comment on issues and to comment on technical errata
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q+
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ack AndyS
17:57:14 [gkellogg]
https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg/wiki/Editor%27s-guide
17:57:59 [pfps]
i'm fine with editorial PRs and even with merging them in
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q+
17:59:01 [pfps]
my worry about boilerplate is not repeating it 22 times, but having 22 different versions of the boilerplate
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errata is already tagged as editorial and tecnical - my view is that technical errata need WG discussion
18:00:25 [gkellogg]
q?
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ack pfps
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zakim, end meeting
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As of this point the attendees have been gtw, Dominik_T, AndyS_, ora, VladimirAlexiev
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RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/02/22-rdf-star-minutes.html Zakim
18:02:00 [Zakim]
I am happy to have been of service, gkellogg; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/02/22-rdf-star-minutes.html gkellogg
18:02:21 [gkellogg]
rrsagent, bye
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rrsagent, make logs public
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rrsagent, bye
18:02:50 [RRSAgent]
I see no action items
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logging to https://www.w3.org/2023/02/22-rdf-star-irc
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present+
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present+ pfps
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RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/02/22-rdf-star-minutes.html TallTed
18:05:59 [TallTed]
(demerits for all ... we failed to scribe)
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present- meeeting
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RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/02/22-rdf-star-minutes.html TallTed
18:06:50 [gkellogg]
TallTed: We had decided that we weren't going to scribe Editor's meetings, but may raise actions.
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s/meeeting: RDF-star Editor's meeting//
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gkellogg -- ah, ok
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RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/02/22-rdf-star-minutes.html TallTed
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s/TallTed:/TallTed --/
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RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/02/22-rdf-star-minutes.html TallTed
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scribe- gkellogg
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RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/02/22-rdf-star-minutes.html TallTed
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scribe: none
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RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/02/22-rdf-star-minutes.html TallTed
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RRSAgent, bye
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Zakim, bye
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leaving. As of this point the attendees have been TallTed, pfps
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RRSAgent, make logs public
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RRSAgent, bye
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I see no action items