16:59:55 RRSAgent has joined #rdf-star 16:59:59 logging to https://www.w3.org/2023/02/22-rdf-star-irc 17:00:30 pfps has joined #rdf-star 17:00:30 ora has joined #rdf-star 17:00:30 zakim, who's here? 17:00:30 Present: (no one) 17:00:30 On IRC I see ora, pfps, RRSAgent, Zakim, enrico, AndyS, gkellogg, TallTed, VladimirAlexiev, ghurlbot, csarven, Tpt, Timothe, ktk, gtw, rhiaro, agendabot, pchampin 17:00:30 present+ 17:01:01 `/invite zakim` and `/invite rrsagent` help 17:01:01 meeeting: RDF-star Editor's meeting 17:01:01 chair: gkellogg 17:01:18 meeting: RDF-star Editor's meeting 17:01:56 Dominik_T has joined #rdf-star 17:02:12 TallTed has changed the topic to: RDF-Star WG — 2023-02-22 Editors Call — pro forma Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-star-wg/2023Feb/0133.html 17:02:16 olaf has joined #rdf-star 17:03:05 AndyS_ has joined #rdf-star 17:04:32 q+ 17:04:50 ack TallTed 17:04:57 present+ 17:05:08 present+ 17:05:09 q+ 17:05:16 Doerthe has joined #rdf-star 17:06:37 q- 17:06:48 q- 17:07:50 q+ 17:08:12 present+ 17:08:25 q+ to suggest we use the queue 17:08:48 zakim, who is here? 17:08:48 Present: gtw, Dominik_T, AndyS_, ora 17:08:49 On IRC I see Doerthe, AndyS, olaf, Dominik_T, ora, pfps, RRSAgent, Zakim, enrico, gkellogg, TallTed, VladimirAlexiev, ghurlbot, csarven, Tpt, Timothe, ktk, gtw, rhiaro, agendabot, 17:08:49 ... pchampin 17:13:25 q? 17:13:38 ack AndyS 17:14:04 Doerthe has joined #rdf-star 17:17:12 q+ in issues 17:18:28 ack ora 17:18:28 ora, you wanted to suggest we use the queue 17:18:48 present+ 17:18:57 q- in, issues 17:19:07 q+ pfps to talk about issues 17:19:12 q+ to say that W3C work is public and open; once it was done on publicly visible wikis; now it's largely done via publicly visible github. Also, we're expected to address all issues, substantive or not, raised by group members or otherwise, with substantive responses. 17:19:45 ack pfps 17:19:45 pfps, you wanted to talk about issues 17:20:36 q+ 17:20:53 q+ to ask about the direction on errata 17:21:00 ack TallTed 17:21:00 TallTed, you wanted to say that W3C work is public and open; once it was done on publicly visible wikis; now it's largely done via publicly visible github. Also, we're expected to 17:21:03 ... address all issues, substantive or not, raised by group members or otherwise, with substantive responses. 17:23:08 ack ora 17:23:13 q+ 17:24:22 ack me 17:24:22 gkellogg, you wanted to ask about the direction on errata 17:25:05 q+ 17:26:38 ack pfps 17:28:45 q- 17:29:27 q+ to talk about PR cycle 17:29:36 ack AndyS 17:29:36 AndyS, you wanted to talk about PR cycle 17:29:53 q+ to suggest that working in public tends to keep things from happening "under the radar", and to note that editors are the only ones (who should be) empowered to merge PRs, which should reflect WG decisions (often, resolutions are taken up to approve such merging) 17:30:47 q+ 17:30:53 ack TallTed 17:30:55 TallTed, you wanted to suggest that working in public tends to keep things from happening "under the radar", and to note that editors are the only ones (who should be) empowered to 17:30:57 ... merge PRs, which should reflect WG decisions (often, resolutions are taken up to approve such merging) 17:30:59 it should be easy to get truly editorial changes in, but technical changes should require input from the WG 17:32:13 q+ to ask about the burden on the group of considering every PR and issue. Also, the GitHub requirements for merging a PR after a change has been requested. 17:33:37 ack ora 17:33:43 q+ to discuss hiding in plain sight 17:34:27 q+ 17:35:24 I refer you all to https://www.w3.org/2021/Process-20211102/ "Issue Tracking: Github (preferred), Public mailing list, Member-only mailing list" etc. 17:35:26 ack me 17:35:26 gkellogg, you wanted to ask about the burden on the group of considering every PR and issue. Also, the GitHub requirements for merging a PR after a change has been requested. 17:36:14 q+ to note the above Process document... 17:38:56 q+ 17:39:17 ack pfps 17:39:17 pfps, you wanted to discuss hiding in plain sight and to 17:40:48 ack AndyS 17:41:04 q+ on being pragmatic and simplify approaches 17:43:00 oops no errata for rdf:JSON that I can find 17:44:01 I like the idea of a delay or grace period 17:44:02 ack TallTed 17:44:02 TallTed, you wanted to note the above Process document... 17:44:11 q+ to suggest using CODEOWNERS 17:45:03 BTW Pubrules https://www3.org/pubrules/ is off line. :-) 17:45:17 q+ on issues 17:46:26 q+ on technical errata 17:47:31 https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/15/health/oxford-comma-maine-court-case-trnd/index.html 17:47:51 Commas *do* matter. ;-) 17:48:13 ack VladimirAlexiev 17:48:13 VladimirAlexiev, you wanted to comment on being pragmatic and simplify approaches 17:51:11 q? 17:51:14 is LPG the main use case for RDF-star?? 17:51:15 +1 to simplicity! 17:51:57 ack me 17:51:57 gkellogg, you wanted to suggest using CODEOWNERS 17:52:01 Not the *main* use case as far as I know. 17:53:19 q? 17:53:22 ack pfps 17:53:22 pfps, you wanted to comment on issues and to comment on technical errata 17:54:02 q+ 17:54:12 ack AndyS 17:57:14 https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg/wiki/Editor%27s-guide 17:57:59 i'm fine with editorial PRs and even with merging them in 17:58:03 q+ 17:59:01 my worry about boilerplate is not repeating it 22 times, but having 22 different versions of the boilerplate 17:59:35 errata is already tagged as editorial and tecnical - my view is that technical errata need WG discussion 18:00:25 q? 18:00:31 ack pfps 18:01:54 zakim, end meeting 18:01:54 As of this point the attendees have been gtw, Dominik_T, AndyS_, ora, VladimirAlexiev 18:01:56 RRSAgent, please draft minutes 18:01:57 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/02/22-rdf-star-minutes.html Zakim 18:02:00 I am happy to have been of service, gkellogg; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye 18:02:04 Zakim has left #rdf-star 18:02:13 rrsagent, draft minutes 18:02:15 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/02/22-rdf-star-minutes.html gkellogg 18:02:21 rrsagent, bye 18:02:39 olaf has left #rdf-star 18:02:41 rrsagent, make logs public 18:02:50 rrsagent, bye 18:02:50 I see no action items 18:03:56 RRSAgent has joined #rdf-star 18:03:56 logging to https://www.w3.org/2023/02/22-rdf-star-irc 18:04:00 Zakim has joined #rdf-star 18:04:03 present+ 18:04:03 pfps has left #rdf-star 18:04:14 present+ pfps 18:04:56 RRSAgent, draft minutes 18:04:57 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/02/22-rdf-star-minutes.html TallTed 18:05:59 (demerits for all ... we failed to scribe) 18:05:59 present- meeeting 18:06:30 RRSAgent, draft minutes 18:06:31 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/02/22-rdf-star-minutes.html TallTed 18:06:50 TallTed: We had decided that we weren't going to scribe Editor's meetings, but may raise actions. 18:07:14 s/meeeting: RDF-star Editor's meeting// 18:07:40 gkellogg -- ah, ok 18:07:51 RRSAgent, draft minutes 18:07:52 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/02/22-rdf-star-minutes.html TallTed 18:08:33 s/TallTed:/TallTed --/ 18:08:40 RRSAgent, draft minutes 18:08:41 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/02/22-rdf-star-minutes.html TallTed 18:09:12 scribe- gkellogg 18:09:25 RRSAgent, draft minutes 18:09:26 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/02/22-rdf-star-minutes.html TallTed 18:09:46 scribe: none 18:09:56 RRSAgent, draft minutes 18:09:57 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/02/22-rdf-star-minutes.html TallTed 18:10:36 RRSAgent, bye 18:10:39 Zakim, bye 18:10:39 leaving. As of this point the attendees have been TallTed, pfps 18:10:39 Zakim has left #rdf-star 18:10:45 RRSAgent, make logs public 18:10:56 RRSAgent, bye 18:10:56 I see no action items