IRC log of waicc on 2023-02-20
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- zakim, clear agenda
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- meeting: WAI Coordination
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- agenda cleared
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- chair: MichaelC
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- agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-cc/2023Feb/0011.html
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- clear agenda
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- agenda+ Infoshare
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- agenda+ Tracker retirement; archiving, migration
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- agenda+ Transcript saving
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- agenda+ Group coordination
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- scribeOptions: -final
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- agenda+ Call time
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- present+
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- regrets+ JamesN
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- present+
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- present+
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- present+
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- present+ jeanne
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- agenda+ Review of WAI plans in 2 weeks
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- present+
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- present+
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- zakim, take up item 1
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- agendum 1 -- Infoshare -- taken up [from agendabot]
- 16:34:35 [jeanne]
- Matt: Last week I did a webinar about what APA and WAI are working on it. I got someone who is interested in EO's work. I sent them the info to join or at least give feedback.
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- ... I'll send a link to this list about the webinar when it becomes available.
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- Daniel: There will soon be a working draft for wide review for DPUB ARIA and DPUB @@
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- zakim, take up next
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- agendum 2 -- Tracker retirement; archiving, migration -- taken up [from agendabot]
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- present+
- 16:36:26 [jeanne]
- Michael: I have been seeking to systems about retireing Tracker. They will be archived so they won't go away, they just can't be edited anymore
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- q+
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- s/ been seeking / been talking
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- Jemma: Will they be migrated to Github?
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- Michael: That's up to the group
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- ... March 31st is the date unless we come up with blockers
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- Janina: Migrating into Github is interesting. Can we integrate them with IRC?
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- https://github.com/w3c/GHURLBot
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- Michael: There is a gbot to do that
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- https://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html
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- Lisa: What are the commands that are related to trackbot that are being deprecated?
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- q?
- 16:40:11 [jeanne]
- Michael, most of the common commands have been migrated to Zakim: like Trackbot, start meeting is now Zakim, start meeting?
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- ack m
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- present+
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- present+ Daniel
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- q+
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- Matt: We would like to be able to assign people to horizontal review and respond to dashboard issues. We don't have permission to assign or change labels in Github.
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- ack me
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- ack me
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- Michael: Roy has it on his list to discuss with PLH and see what can be done. It's possible that assigning issues can be tackled.
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- ... if you want to discuss it in the future, let me know so I can add it.
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- zakim, take up next
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- agendum 3 -- Transcript saving -- taken up [from agendabot]
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- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-cc/2023Feb/0012.html
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- Michael: I sent out a draft. Please comment. It's a discussion opener.
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- q+
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- ack m
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- ... I propose that unless objections are raised on list in two days, I would file this for the Guide repository or the AB repository.
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- MaryJo: Is the idea to use Transcripts instead of scribing?
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- Michael: Only if they are marked as being edited and reviewed.
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- MaryJo: What will we do about people saying things that they don't want on the record.
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- Michael: That needs to be addressed
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- q+
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- Jemma: I raised this issue for a task force that is having a hard time finding a scribe. When someone tried to scribe and we wanted to go back to the transcript to get the technical details from the transcript. That was why I raised the issue.
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- q+
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- q-
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- ack g
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- George: Is this being proposed across W3C?
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- Michael: it's a W3C-wide policy that transcripts are not saved, so it will have to be a W3C policy.
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- "Before enabling automatic transcriptions, the meeting chair must ask those present for consent to enabling transcription and must not permit the meeting host to enable transcription if any participant withholds consent. "
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- George: Can the transcript feature be turned off so that people can speak "off the record"?
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- Michael: I think that is possible.
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- q+
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- George: Where will the transcript be stored or linked to?
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- ack j
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- Michael: Some groups are currently using Zoom transcript with non-W3C zoom and edit it before publishing.
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- "The chair’s announcement must cover who will have access to the transcript, the purpose/use of it, and for how long it will be retained."
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- Janina: We have had private conversations and found them useful, but we do try to work in the open. George's idea would still capture that we are turning off transcript
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- +1 to file the issue
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- Michael: raise any issues before Wednesday.
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- zakim, take up next
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- agendum 4 -- Group coordination -- taken up [from agendabot]
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- Michael: This is an update to intra-group coordination in AG, that we hope to adapt to inter-group coordination in WAI-CC. No new updates.
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- zakim, take up next
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- agendum 5 -- Call time -- taken up [from agendabot]
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- q+
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- Michael: This time works for a lot of people but it conflicts with the COGA call.
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- Janina: Lisa and I want to talk about this. I think it is a problematic time for all three AGWG chairs.
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- Lisa: We just moved the COGA call to this time this year. I still have the straw poll from moving the COGA call.
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- Janina: I was going to ask if you can move COGA a half hour either way?
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- agenda?
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- Michael: I can send out another poll to move this meeting.
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- Janina: If this time is permanently difficult for the AG chairs, then we probably need to move it. We need COGA and at least one AG chair.
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