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15:58:04 <Zakim> Meeting: Timed Text Working Group Teleconference
15:58:26 <nigel> Meeting: Timed Text Working Group Teleconference
15:58:41 <nigel> Agenda: https://github.com/w3c/ttwg/issues/238
15:58:49 <nigel> scribe: nigel
15:59:29 <nigel> Previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2023/01/19-tt-minutes.html
15:59:29 <nigel> Present: Nigel
16:01:32 <nigel> Regrets: Cyril
16:02:05 <nigel> Present+ Pierre, Andreas
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16:03:35 <nigel> Present+ Gary
16:03:38 <nigel> Chair: Gary, Nigel
16:03:55 <nigel> Regrets: None
16:04:11 <nigel> Topic: This meeting
16:04:28 <nigel> Nigel: Today we have Charter status, and Registry boilerplate
16:04:32 <nigel> .. Is there any other business?
16:04:49 <nigel> Pierre: There's an IMSC-HRM issue that we need to discuss - can we close?
16:05:08 <nigel> Nigel: Ok we can do that
16:05:15 <nigel> Pierre: It's #61 in imsc-hrm
16:05:53 <nigel> Topic: Charter Status
16:06:11 <nigel> Nigel: We have an active Charter again, after another extension was granted.
16:06:24 <nigel> -> https://www.w3.org/groups/wg/timed-text/charters TTWG Charters
16:06:55 <nigel> .. As discussed last time with Philippe, the Charter objection has been reverted to the FO Council.
16:07:09 <nigel> Gary: I also saw that Tess responded in the charter review thread.
16:07:30 <nigel> Pierre: Did you see the response from the TAG too?
16:07:36 <nigel> Nigel: I don't recall seeing it. Was it recent?
16:07:40 <nigel> Pierre: 2-3 weeks ago.
16:08:57 <nigel> Nigel: Amy posted an update (member-only)
16:09:04 <nigel> -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-forum/2023JanMar/0077.html Amy email to AC 25th Jan
16:09:43 <nigel> -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-charters-review/2023Jan/0017.html Response to Philippe from Tess (member only)
16:10:24 <nigel> Pierre: There's a longer email from Mozilla by the way
16:10:30 <nigel> Nigel: Yes, I saw and responded to that.
16:10:39 <nigel> Nigel: Anyway, this is now back with the FO Council.
16:11:23 <nigel> Gary: We haven't heard anything else about the FO Council since Amy's email?
16:11:26 <nigel> Nigel: I haven't, no.
16:11:40 <nigel> Gary: I guess we wait then.
16:11:42 <nigel> Nigel: Yes!
16:12:08 <nigel> Pierre: You'll see that the TAG review asked the question again whether or not IMSC-HRM should be a Note.
16:12:14 <nigel> Nigel: Ok I'll have to dig that out.
16:12:33 <nigel> .. Is that a review of IMSC-HRM or of the Charter?
16:12:43 <nigel> Pierre: It's a review of IMSC-HRM from Amy on Jan 9.
16:13:00 <nigel> -> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/788#issuecomment-1376192275 Comment from Amy on Jan 9
16:13:24 <nigel> Nigel: Thank you for pointing this out, I didn't notice it. I will look at it and respond.
16:14:45 <nigel> .. Anything else on Charter status?
16:15:43 <nigel> Topic: IMSC-HRM PR:  Define presentation compositor #61
16:15:52 <nigel> github: https://github.com/w3c/imsc-hrm/pull/61
16:16:28 <nigel> Nigel: In the context of the previous discussion, it may be that Amy is waiting for
16:16:37 <nigel> .. an answer to the TAG review comment's questions before coming back on this.
16:16:50 <nigel> .. I think we need to leave it as is until we've responded.
16:16:58 <nigel> Pierre: Arguably this is completely editorial, so we should merge.
16:17:27 <nigel> Nigel: It may be - let me try to unblock this by talking, first.
16:17:29 <nigel> Pierre: alright
16:17:51 <nigel> SUMMARY: @nigelmegitt to talk to/ping @rhiaro to unblock this.
16:18:07 <nigel> Topic: Defining a Registry w3c/ttwg#241
16:18:45 <nigel> Nigel: Thanks to all who looked at this and chipped in over the past 2 weeks.
16:19:13 <nigel> .. It feels as though we're approaching consensus
16:19:16 <nigel> .. To summarise:
16:19:59 <nigel> .. I opened an issue on the Process about fallback custodianship and I think the Process CG recognised that it was an omission.
16:20:19 <nigel> .. Gary discovered how to do Registry Track in Respec.
16:20:26 <nigel> Gary: I haven't tried it
16:20:28 <nigel> Nigel: I have faith
16:20:33 <nigel> present+ Atsushi
16:20:38 <nigel> Atsushi: I believe it should work
16:21:00 <nigel> Nigel: We can draft boilerplate text in TTWG repo
16:21:21 <nigel> .. There seems to be general agreement about the assumptions and the strawman
16:22:12 <nigel> .. Gary and Nigel discussed provisional entries and deprecation and came up with a basic flow
16:22:22 <nigel> .. Provisional -> Final -> Deprecated or something similar
16:22:31 <nigel> Gary: I haven't come up with anything better since.
16:22:35 <nigel> Nigel: Me neither.
16:22:39 <nigel> Gary: Might be good enough
16:22:41 <nigel> Nigel: Yes
16:23:04 <nigel> .. There was an interesting question about TTML Profile Registry.
16:23:18 <nigel> .. I did a comparative analysis and concluded that migrating it would probably be a Good Thing.
16:23:34 <nigel> .. though the co-editor (Mike) doesn't want to spend the time doing it himself!
16:23:55 <nigel> .. We gathered examples of some other Registries which I haven't looked at in any detail.
16:24:05 <nigel> .. And, er, that's it.
16:24:30 <nigel> .. Let's open the floor in case there are comments/questions.
16:24:33 <nigel> ..
16:25:03 <nigel> .. The first question:
16:25:05 <nigel> .. Do we have enough alignment/agreement to begin drafting boilerplate text, e.g. in the ttwg repository?
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16:26:00 <nigel> i/Nigel: Thanks to all/-> https://github.com/w3c/ttwg/discussions/241 GitHub Discussion
16:26:48 <nigel> Nigel: Or put another way, does anyone see any unresolved problems with the current straw man?
16:27:36 <nigel> Cyril: I need to catch up on this - can I have some time to look at it offline?
16:27:39 <nigel> Nigel: Yes of course
16:28:24 <nigel> Cyril: I presume the Process has some requirements?
16:28:42 <nigel> Nigel: Yes, this is a proposal for boilerplate text for TTWG repositories to meet those requirements.
16:28:53 <nigel> Cyril: Would the DAPT registry be first for this proposal, or the TTML Profile Registry?
16:29:28 <nigel> Nigel: Either or both - I haven't decided, but if we need a DAPT Registry track registry then that could be the first one.
16:29:35 <nigel> Cyril: And we can do this with the Charter extension?
16:29:38 <nigel> Nigel: Yes I think so.
16:29:52 <nigel> Cyril: It looks good what you have, nothing controversial that I see.
16:30:19 <nigel> Nigel: Thanks. Before he (just) left Gary sent a message on IRC "gotta drop off in a minute. I don't have any objections"
16:30:46 <nigel> .. My next agenda question was "Should we begin porting any existing registries to the Registry track?"
16:30:51 <nigel> .. but that's the wrong question.
16:31:07 <nigel> .. Instead, I think the next stage is to begin drafting the boilerplate text so we have something concrete
16:31:16 <nigel> .. to review instead of this discussion straw man.
16:31:52 <nigel> .. Should I take an action to draft something for review next call?
16:32:21 <atsushi> +1 for drafting ;)
16:33:04 <nigel> Andreas: I haven't had much time to look at it but my proposal would also be to continue.
16:33:14 <nigel> Nigel: Okay, I will go ahead and draft something.
16:34:03 <nigel> .. I've just opened https://github.com/w3c/ttwg/issues/242 and assigned it to myself, to track this.
16:34:26 <nigel> Nigel: Any other thoughts about Registries?
16:35:06 <nigel> group: [no more thoughts]
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16:35:41 <nigel> Topic: Meeting close
16:35:53 <nigel> Nigel: Thanks everyone. [adjourns meeting]
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16:50:18 <nigel> Present+ Cyril
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16:53:39 <nigel> zakim, end meeting
16:53:39 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Nigel, Pierre, Andreas, Gary, Atsushi, Cyril
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16:53:48 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, nigel; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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16:53:57 <RRSAgent> I see no action items