IRC log of apa on 2023-01-25

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Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference

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Date: 25 January 2023

13:46:10 [matatk]

zakim, clear the agenda

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agenda cleared

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Chair: Matthew

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agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements

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agenda+ Accessibility for Children & Adapt call https://www.w3.org/2017/08/telecon-info_adapt

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agenda+ Moving from Tracker to GitHub

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agenda+ New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22

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agenda+ A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review

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agenda+ New on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html

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agenda+ Dangling Spec Review Cleanup https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned

13:47:21 [matatk]

agenda+ CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues

13:47:24 [matatk]

agenda+ Task Force & Deliverables Updates

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agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open

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agenda+ Other Business

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agenda+ Be done

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regrets+ Gottfried

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14:56:54 [matatk]

regrets+ Mike_Beganyi

14:59:26 [janina]

present+

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present+

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+present

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present+

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present+

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scribe+ niklasegger

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zakim, next item

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agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from matatk]

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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/01/25-apa-minutes.html matatk

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https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2023Jan/0000.html

15:06:50 [niklasegger]

janina: Reminder on the CfC Establish the Maturity Model Task Force. Deadline 23:59 Boston Time, 3. February

15:07:17 [niklasegger]

zakim, close this item

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agendum 1 closed

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I see 11 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

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2. Accessibility for Children & Adapt call https://www.w3.org/2017/08/telecon-info_adapt [from matatk]

15:07:22 [niklasegger]

zakim, next item

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agendum 2 -- Accessibility for Children & Adapt call https://www.w3.org/2017/08/telecon-info_adapt -- taken up [from matatk]

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present+

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matatk: Intereseting call happen next week in the adapt time slot. 10am Boston time, monday. Main thing is about learning what the a11y for Children group is doing

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q?

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agenda?

15:09:19 [niklasegger]

matatk: ... there as similarities within this work and the work of the coga group

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https://www.w3.org/2017/08/telecon-info_adapt

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Here's some background, from the last Adapt call, about the sorts of things that the Accessibilty for Children CG is working on (with a skew at the moment towards symbols, Adapt's main work right now): https://www.w3.org/2023/01/23-adapt-minutes.html

15:11:56 [niklasegger]

janina: : ... we don't really know the agenda right now, however some topics are probably user scenarios for adapt-dash

15:12:38 [niklasegger]

matatk: ... definitely relevant work and probably a new perspective for some of us

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zakim, next item

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agendum 3 -- Moving from Tracker to GitHub -- taken up [from matatk]

15:13:30 [niklasegger]

matatk: We are going to move away from this self hosted w3c tools to more commodity tools

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matatk: ... we are going to move to Github like the other group

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q+

15:15:50 [niklasegger]

matatk: : ... to move to github to track the actions. Probably in the next 2 months

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s/other group/other groups

15:16:26 [Fredrik]

q-

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matatk: If we want to, we can move our issues from tracker to github

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q+

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janina: We don't want to fall in the pit where we review something and the six months later we can't find it

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s/and the/and then

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ack me

15:20:38 [Fredrik]

ack Fredrik

15:21:33 [matatk]

In case it's of interest, GitHub's command-line client is very cool, and with respect to issue management is very full-featured: https://cli.github.com/manual/gh_extension

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* https://cli.github.com/manual/

15:22:35 [niklasegger]

matatk: We have two systems right now (Wiki and Tracker) and will have two in the future (Wiki and Github). So there is no big change in this context. It will surely work out

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agenda?

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zakim, take up item 7

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agendum 7 -- Dangling Spec Review Cleanup https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned -- taken up [from matatk]

15:26:02 [janina]

zakim, drop item 4

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agendum 4, New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22, dropped

15:26:06 [janina]

zakim, drop item 5

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agendum 5, A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review, dropped

15:26:08 [janina]

zakim, drop item 6

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agendum 6, New on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html, dropped

15:31:10 [niklasegger]

Lionel_Wolberger: I still have to do secure payment confirmation spec

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https://w3c.github.io/secure-payment-confirmation/

15:31:10 [matatk]

https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/50

15:32:50 [niklasegger]

matatk: Due date 1st of February, it has a section about a11y. So we will have to look at it

15:33:06 [Lionel_Wolberger]

https://www.w3.org/TR/vc-data-integrity/

15:35:07 [janina]

https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2332

15:35:13 [niklasegger]

(Now about Verifiable Credential Data Integrity 1.0)

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janina: Lionel do we see potential a11y problems here?

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Lionel_Wolberger: They really want to push UI out of the scope. However it might be appropriate that the explanation of credentials are accessible

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Lionel_Wolberger: Will look at it after my vacation

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janina: Yeah, i think we can postpone it

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(Now about again about the secure payment integrity)

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matatk: We will look at it because of the due date

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zakim, next item

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agendum 3 -- Moving from Tracker to GitHub -- taken up [from matatk]

15:39:00 [matatk]

agenda?

15:39:04 [niklasegger]

zakim, close this item

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agendum 3 closed

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I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

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8. CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues [from matatk]

15:39:21 [niklasegger]

zakim, take up item 9

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agendum 9 -- Task Force & Deliverables Updates -- taken up [from matatk]

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agenda?

15:39:28 [matatk]

zakim, drop item 3

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zakim, drop item 8

15:39:29 [Zakim]

agendum 3, Moving from Tracker to GitHub, dropped

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agendum 8, CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues, dropped

15:39:52 [nadine]

present+

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s/secure payment integrity/ secure payment confirmation

15:41:15 [niklasegger]

janina: RQTF is starting back up

15:44:43 [matatk]

https://www.w3.org/TR/ctaur/

15:45:50 [niklasegger]

janina: About the Collaboration Tools Accessibility User Requirements spec. We want to find out what requirements need to be fulfilled so that these collaborative tools are accessible

15:46:19 [Fredrik]

q+

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ack Fredrik

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Fredrik: Are the developers of those tools involved?

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janina: Unfortunately no

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q-

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q+

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q-

15:50:02 [niklasegger]

janina: The spec is still a bit abstract. A few specific examples would be great without naming any products

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ack me

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agenda?

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zakim, next item

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agendum 10 -- Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open -- taken up [from matatk]

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zakim, close this item

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agendum 10 closed

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I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

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11. Other Business [from matatk]

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agendum 11 -- Other Business -- taken up [from matatk]

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https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/charter-2023/charter.html

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janina: I propose that we start a CfC next week about the group charter. At least we plan to

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zakim, next item

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agendum 12 -- Be done -- taken up [from matatk]

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