18:56:50 RRSAgent has joined #aria-apg 18:56:54 logging to https://www.w3.org/2023/01/24-aria-apg-irc 18:57:11 rrsagent, make log public 18:57:27 MEETING: ARIA Authoring Practices Task Force 18:57:33 CHAIR: Jemma 18:57:37 present+ 18:57:42 rrsagent, make minutes 18:57:43 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/01/24-aria-apg-minutes.html Matt_King 19:00:01 jongund has joined #aria-apg 19:00:26 present+ 19:01:21 jongund has joined #aria-apg 19:06:15 Meeting Agenda: https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/January-24%2C-2023-Agenda 19:07:03 present+ jongund 19:07:17 jongund has left #aria-apg 19:07:28 jongund has joined #aria-apg 19:07:36 present+ Curt 19:07:45 present+ Howard 19:08:10 Scribe+ 19:08:19 Topic: Status of in-progress site updates 19:08:39 WAI site build problems blocking publication. 19:08:39 Work in progress on first AT support table - pull request #2569 19:08:39 Work in progress on restructure and improvement of About Page -- PR 2558 19:08:39 Work in progress on issue 2535 -- Same level navigation on Single Pattern and Single Practice pages 19:08:39 https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/2569 : Button Example: Add AT support tables from ARIA-AT 19:08:50 CurtBellew has joined #aria-apg 19:09:43 Howard, Alex and Matt King will meet Michael Cooper to resolve publishing APG updates 19:10:15 howard-e has joined #aria-apg 19:10:18 MarkMcCarthy has joined #aria-apg 19:10:20 present+ 19:10:27 present+ 19:10:35 mck: we did the review of AT support table embed last week. 19:10:39 present+ 19:10:47 present+ Siri 19:11:32 https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/2569 19:12:03 mck: 12 changes for support table update for Howard, Bocoup 19:12:08 ... timeframe? 19:12:22 Howard: I will have the update on Monday. 19:14:54 mck: PR 2258 is still in progress and ready for the implementation 19:15:19 issue 2535 is not started for the implementation 19:15:55 Topic:2023 APG TF Vision Discussion 19:16:27 mck: what we talked about last week were 19:16:38 - Running workshops or info session to attract more participation 19:16:38 - More sharing of and improving Incentives for participation and contribution 19:16:38 - Returning to more focus to add design patterns 19:18:35 mck: what would be incentives for participation 19:18:55 ...write out the list 19:19:45 any other measures to attract the partipant 19:23:10 jemma: may be one on one mentoring and coaching will be helpful. 19:24:29 https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/apg/about/ 19:25:12 jon: we can use the APG mailing list to invite participation 19:25:50 ... let participants have deeper understanding 19:26:35 emphasis on the goal of benefiting other people 19:27:15 fullfillment will be a good reason to join. 19:28:00 mck: first weakness is in engineering aspect and second weakness is documentation 19:28:06 in APG 19:28:19 mck: how about design aspect? 19:28:47 ..as we develop more example, we can recruit the desginers. 19:29:04 ... The weakest part is engineering aspect. 19:29:32 ...regression test is the important part of the work too. 19:29:48 jon: sure. we can have some specialization for the APG work. 19:30:59 jon; test can be very specific to the coding example 19:31:19 mck: back to talent discussion 19:34:08 ..we need to recruit people, not coding example 19:34:42 jon: one of barrier to participate in APG is W3C membership issue. 19:36:25 mck: Intellectual Property clearance issue is connected. 19:37:12 jon: if we can connect the recruitment with accessibility course, it would be good. 19:37:56 mck: market the APG as the project, rather than members will be helpful? 19:38:10 jon: I think that is the good idea. 19:39:56 mck: we can provide template so that people can start working on it. 19:41:22 https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/2501 19:42:05 discussion summary: Community group and selling APG as project, not a membership. 19:43:10 curt: having simple workflow to contribute. 19:43:32 Topic: Combobox keyboard bug feedback 19:43:49 https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/2440 19:44:06 https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/apg/example-index/combobox/combobox-select-only.html 19:46:18 reading through the comment, https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/2440#issuecomment-1217538796 19:48:08 sarah's comment on APG pattern vs Native