13:02:56 RRSAgent has joined #wot 13:03:00 logging to https://www.w3.org/2023/01/11-wot-irc 13:03:00 Mizushima has joined #wot 13:03:03 meeting: WoT-IG/WG 13:03:42 cris_ has joined #wot 13:03:59 chair: McCool/Sebastian 13:04:25 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool Cristiano_Aguzzi, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Lagally, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Tomoaki_Mizushima 13:04:35 sebatian has joined #wot 13:05:26 agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#11_January_2023 13:06:34 present+ Tetsushi_Matsuda 13:06:40 mc: welcome back 13:06:50 rrsagent, make log public 13:06:51 ... this is the first meeting of the year 13:06:57 topic: Guests 13:07:00 i/welcome/scribenick: cris_/ 13:07:00 mc: no guest 13:07:06 topic: minutes review 13:07:16 matsuda has joined #wot 13:07:18 mc: last meeting December 21st 13:07:20 i/welcome/topic: Greeting/ 13:07:28 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:07:29 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/01/11-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:07:37 dape has joined #wot 13:07:37 ... will talk about the slides later on 13:07:59 ... I forgot to updates the calandar, but now next week is correct 13:08:23 s/updates/update/ 13:08:26 ... regarding testfest. Today we are going to have the testing call but only if Ege and Fady will be there 13:08:46 ... implementation reports are now up to date 13:08:56 i|last meeting|-> https://www.w3.org/2022/12/21-wot-minutes.html Dec-21| 13:09:07 ... DID entry is problematic, still working on it 13:11:07 mc: does the decision about sciriting api call read a resolution? 13:11:26 kaz: to me is a good custom to report task force decisions on the main call 13:11:42 ... but technically it should be co-moderator no co-chair 13:11:51 mc: ok then it should be updated 13:11:55 kaz: ok fixed 13:12:00 mc: any other objections? 13:12:06 ... ok minutes accepted 13:12:19 topic: CCNC Workshop 13:12:54 < showing slides to be presented > 13:13:36 q+ 13:13:57 mc: those slides are good to show commercial impact of our work 13:14:41 ... added a slides about groups 13:15:57 present+ Ryuichi_Matsukura, Michael_Koster 13:16:23 ... I have a slide for orchestration, but I don't like the word orchestration. Plus can somebody check if I use the right script versioning 13:19:00 ... I'm missing relevant screenshots about SayWoT 13:19:03 q? 13:19:34 q? 13:21:03 mc: beware that I had to use images instead of slides for some project. This increase the size of the presentation. 13:21:24 q? 13:21:33 q+ dart_wot 13:21:53 ack dart_wot 13:21:57 mjk has joined #wot 13:21:58 q+ to dart_wot 13:22:07 q? 13:22:24 seb: Editor should be listed 13:22:32 cris: maybe also TDD implementations? 13:22:43 mc: not for now, but maybe in the future 13:23:30 mc: I changed a little bit the stile of Webthings slides to be consistent with our style 13:23:37 s/stile/style/ 13:24:40 mc: I added also a list of other type of connections that we had during this charter 13:24:44 q? 13:24:50 ack d 13:24:50 dape, you wanted to dart_wot 13:25:03 https://www.w3.org/WoT/developers/ 13:25:04 dape: we have a list of open source projects in our WoT website 13:25:10 ... see the link above 13:25:14 ack dape 13:25:52 ... total slides count 41 13:26:03 ... try to reduce them a bit to fit under 45 minutes 13:26:26 kaz: I commented on the PR 13:26:34 ... I'm concerned about the slides 13:26:43 ... people will be confused 13:26:58 ... and misunderstands everything what W3C does. 13:27:21 ... you should clearly explain at every point who does what 13:28:04 .... remember that some of the companies you listed are not inside w3c 13:28:18 ... it should be clear that they are not inside w3c 13:28:40 mc: is it a note enough? 13:28:49 kaz: we can add a new section 13:29:25 ... a new empty slide with a clear statment about the fact that they are external implementations 13:31:20 seb: I would not say external implementations, but maybe adoptions 13:32:02 kaz: regarding NHK and Takenaka, I talked with them and they are ok but please add a url to their slides. 13:32:41 https://www.w3.org/2022/Talks/0914-smartcities-ka/20220914-dt-sc-ka.pdf 13:33:36 mc 13:33:41 s/mc// 13:33:58 mc: ok I'll replace Takenaka slides with the link above 13:34:21 kaz: you should also change the name to be IPA DADC 13:34:23 mc: ok 13:36:11 ack k 13:36:28 mc: thank you for the feedback 13:37:25 topic: testing call 13:37:35 seb: Ege is still on vacation time 13:37:47 mc: ok then we'll cancel today call 13:37:53 topic: Quick updates 13:38:10 mc: we have special calls 13:38:16 s|DADC|DADC. Also you should clearly separate the WG/IG work from the CG work/ 13:38:21 ... I missed yesterday's call 13:38:31 s|work/|work.| 13:38:33 ml: very small group 13:38:42 rrsagent, make log public 13:38:44 ... we continued the work of the previous use case calls 13:38:48 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:38:49 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/01/11-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:38:59 ... we reviewed the gaps 13:40:03 s/Quick updates/Use Cases updates/ 13:40:03 ml: repository use-cases and under folder USE-CASES 13:40:28 ml: we have matrix with use cases and gaps for each specification document 13:40:38 ... we created an md document for that 13:40:43 ... for next charter ideas 13:40:48 dezell has joined #wot 13:41:06 present+ David_Ezell 13:42:22 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:42:23 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/01/11-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:42:54 ml: we have also a slide somewhere 13:43:15 ... there still some work to do to extract requirements 13:43:43 subtopic: clarify adoption policy 13:44:05 ml: we have to clarify how to move IG work on use cases and requirements to WG 13:44:11 s/ml/mc/ 13:44:28 mc: I created an issue to capture the discussion 13:45:05 ... we are going to discuss it in detail in the next week special meeting 13:45:33 topic: publications 13:45:49 mc: CR transitions approved 13:46:07 ... but we have a problem with discovery regarding Discovery 13:46:15 ... with DID 13:46:16 q? 13:46:31 ... moreover we missed the deadline for Discovery 13:47:03 .... and therefore we are not able to reach PR for discovery 13:47:09 q+ to remind we need to check the schedule for next week as well (after making resolution) 13:47:28 ... this requires to extend the current charter to additional 4 months 13:47:30 q? 13:48:31 ml: from profile prospective. This extension gives us the opportunity to conclude profile and go to CR in this charter period 13:48:53 ack k 13:48:53 kaz, you wanted to remind we need to check the schedule for next week as well (after making resolution) 13:48:57 q+ 13:49:12 mc: still very tight timeline 13:49:46 q- 13:49:51 proposal: In order to have time to reach PR status for our deliverables, the WoT WG will request a 4-month extension to the current charter, to May 31, 2023 13:49:56 ... but the exstetion is for all deliverables not only Discovery. 13:50:49 resolution: In order to have time to reach PR status for our deliverables, the WoT WG will request a 4-month extension to the current charter, to May 31, 2023 13:50:49 action: kaz to ask w3m for a 4-mo extension 13:50:56 q+ 13:50:58 ack k 13:51:08 topic: Cancellations 13:51:20 mc: next week everything is canceled 13:51:28 ... except the profile call 13:51:41 ... I updated the calander 13:52:12 ... edit the wiki if you want to change the agenda 13:52:48 i|next week|-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Cancellations_and_Schedule_Updates Cancellations| 13:53:37 i|Updates|-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Special_Meetings_to_Discuss_Next_Charter Agenda for the Charter meeting next week| 13:53:54 s/topic: Cancellations/topic: Charter meeting next week and chancellations/ 13:53:59 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:54:00 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/01/11-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:55:47 q+ 13:57:41 present+ Daniel_Peintner 13:57:59 q+ 13:58:03 ml: do we have to talk about liasons and registries in the organization section ? 13:58:15 mc: we can move it back, but maybe we don't have time 13:58:26 ml: maybe it is better to move the discussion to another day 13:58:57 mc: I prefer to get a introduction about registers and liasons in the first day 13:59:31 q? 14:00:25 dape: in the calendar is stated to be 2 our slots 14:00:30 ack dape 14:00:32 mc: I have to clean the calendar 14:00:50 ... it is only two hours on Wednesday 14:00:51 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:00:53 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/01/11-wot-minutes.html kaz 14:01:31 topic: Discovery problem 14:01:31 mc: we have a problem with DID but to fix it we need a second CR 14:01:31 ... that's why it is delayed 14:01:54 ... any other business? 14:03:04 kaz: regarding the Discovery specification I'll talk with Philipp Legally to understand what it is best way to proceed 14:03:43 ... I would increase the timing of the first agenda item of the first day: organization -> 15 min 14:04:17 mc: let's close the meeting 14:04:26 s/Philipp Legally/PLH quickly/ 14:04:36 [adjourned] 14:05:09 s/understand what it is best way to proceed/see which would be the best way./ 14:06:01 s/I would increase the timing/then regarding the Charter meeting next week, I'd suggest we extend the length/ 14:06:14 s/15 min/20 min/ 14:06:51 s/let's close the meeting/let me put 15 min for now and let's see./ 14:06:56 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:06:57 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/01/11-wot-minutes.html kaz 16:01:31 Zakim has left #wot