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16:06:10 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
16:06:41 <CharlesL> present+
16:07:44 <Sheri_B-H> agenda+ Github Issue #136 Scoring for Inactive Stage  Agenda+ Github Issue #89 ICT Development Lifecycle ratings outcomes aren't stated like the outcomes are in Silver   Agenda+ Github Issue #87 3.6.1 Proof Points for Procurement Section: Some bullets aren't clear what is needed   Agenda+ Github Issue #79 Section 3.3.2 Rating for evaluation - Support: Outcomes for optimize stage don't align with proof points
16:07:44 <janina> agenda?
16:07:47 <janina> zakim, clear agenda
16:07:47 <Zakim> agenda cleared
16:07:58 <Sheri_B-H> Topic: Github Issue #136 Scoring for Inactive Stage
16:08:16 <janina> agenda?
16:08:24 <janina> rrsagent, make minutes
16:08:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/01/11-maturity-minutes.html janina
16:09:23 <CharlesL> https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/136
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16:10:20 <Sheri_B-H> topic: Workstatement
16:10:43 <Sheri_B-H> Janina said APA wants a deeper why in the taskforce workstatement
16:10:56 <Sheri_B-H> why aren't we pointing people to ISO
16:10:59 <Sheri_B-H> for example
16:12:02 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: It's what's different here that matters; not the usual w3C output
16:12:11 <janina> Sheri_B-H: One reason is that it's free of cost
16:12:19 <janina> Sheri_B-H: ISO ain't cheap
16:12:37 <janina> Sheri_B-H: Some come from orgs that then sell services
16:13:31 <janina> Sheri_B-H: It's also about keeping things a11y, not just getting them there and done
16:13:38 <janina> present+ jeff
16:14:00 <janina> jeff: Also about referencing W3C specs in a W3C best practices
16:15:37 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: not a general mm, it's specifically about implementation of web standards; anything that touches web directly or indirectly
16:16:50 <janina> Sheri_B-H: informs the path of web development as a participating best practices; even if no specs on a11y yet; e.g. blockchain
16:19:46 <janina> Sheri_B-H: mm is more about behavioral patterns
16:19:53 <janina> jeff: more about process?
16:20:06 <Sheri_B-H> W3 doesn't endorse other organization's standards
16:20:31 <Sheri_B-H> WCAG is about components, the maturity model is about behavioral patterns
16:22:02 <Sheri_B-H> maturity model anticipates questions that come up in the field, and provides guidance around how to produce them consistently and reliably
16:22:22 <CharlesL> Maturity Model aligns with W3C web accessibility guidelines
16:22:27 <Sheri_B-H> Janina: change produce to respond
16:23:09 <Sheri_B-H> The final webforms can be used to produce reports
16:23:24 <Sheri_B-H> even standardized reports
16:23:47 <Sheri_B-H> Our maturity model is established to be extensible, others are not
16:23:54 <Sheri_B-H> might put that closer to the top, it's pretty powerful
16:25:15 <janina> lionel note audiences for the mm; orgs, customers, regulators,
16:27:17 <Sheri_B-H> single dimension can be assessed you don't have to do the whole thing
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16:28:30 <jlkline> present+
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16:28:38 <Lionel_Wolberger> Present+
16:32:58 <Sheri_B-H> topic: https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/136
16:34:22 <janina> Sheri_B-H: maybe copy/paste problem ...
16:35:21 <janina> Sheri_B-H: taking it on
16:36:39 <janina> Sheri_B-H: Is it that should say "no activity" or "complete"?
16:39:53 <janina> jeff: concern to show progression?
16:40:42 <janina> jeff: just date the file, or dimension
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16:42:30 <janina> Sheri_B-H: concerned about getting crowded
16:42:34 <janina> jeff: just for the tab
16:43:22 <Sheri_B-H> Put in instructions "put the date in the name of the tab for versioning"
16:43:53 <janina> sh: inactive / no longer inactive ?
16:43:56 <janina> CharlesL: yes
16:47:19 <janina> jeff: agrees to work issue 87
16:51:08 <Sheri_B-H> Need to have full on group discussion re: 89, preferably with Jake present.  This ticket will require everyone to participate
16:53:13 <janina> Meeting: Maturity Model Subgroup Teleconference
16:53:18 <janina> Date: 11 Jan 2023
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16:53:24 <janina> rrsagent, make log public
16:53:38 <janina> Chair: Sheri_B-H:
16:55:19 <janina> Regrets: David, Nadine
16:55:31 <janina> rrsagent, make minutes
16:55:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/01/11-maturity-minutes.html janina
16:56:44 <janina> rrsagent, bye
16:56:44 <RRSAgent> I see no action items