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15:41:41 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Fazio
15:41:54 <Fazio> meeting: Maturity Model Subgroup
15:42:43 <Fazio> chair: Fazio, SBH
15:43:17 <Fazio> Agenda+ 2023 Update and Planning
15:43:35 <Fazio>  Agenda+ check in with Jake’s updates
15:43:58 <Fazio> Agenda+ discuss dates to meet with Jason
15:44:31 <Fazio> Agenda+ new business, questions, comments, concerns
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16:05:59 <CharlesL> agenda?
16:06:06 <Fazio> zakim, next item
16:06:06 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- 2023 Update and Planning -- taken up [from Fazio]
16:06:06 <CharlesL> zakim, next item
16:06:06 <Zakim> agendum 1 was just opened, CharlesL
16:07:19 <CharlesL> Janina: has been announced in the APA we will go for Call for Consensus next week
16:07:31 <janina> Homepage(drafting): https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/maturity-model/
16:07:34 <janina> Task Force email: public-maturity@w3.org
16:07:34 <janina> Mailing list at: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-maturity/ <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-maturity/>
16:07:55 <CharlesL> …, APA is rechartering.
16:09:30 <CharlesL> …, public-maturity is proposed as our mailing list we can have pubic-maturitymodel
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16:10:28 <CharlesL> …, we have time to think about this.
16:10:53 <CharlesL> …, Roy needs from us who is a Maturity Model question vs. RQTF person.
16:11:08 <CharlesL> Sheri_B-H: what about guests like Jean.
16:12:19 <CharlesL> janina: Rechartering for APA will take us into the summer
16:12:45 <CharlesL> …, Maturity Model will need to be in those deliverables
16:12:55 <janina> https://github.com/w3c/apa/blob/charter-2023/charter.html
16:13:35 <CharlesL> …, APA would like to be done with this charter by the end of Jan. so it can be handed to W3C management.
16:16:13 <CharlesL> …, some point we will change our new Zoom address for W3C overall instead of MIT
16:19:20 <CharlesL> …, doubt there will be any major changes for the charter.
16:19:53 <CharlesL> Fazio: I can get Roy the list for the Maturity Model TF
16:19:59 <CharlesL> zakim, next item
16:19:59 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- check in with Jake’s updates -- taken up [from Fazio]
16:20:41 <CharlesL> Jake isn't here so we will table this until next meeting.  I didn't see anything thing from him.
16:20:58 <CharlesL> zakim, next item
16:20:58 <Zakim> agendum 2 was just opened, CharlesL
16:21:11 <CharlesL> zakim, close this item
16:21:11 <Zakim> agendum 2 closed
16:21:14 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:21:14 <Zakim> 3. discuss dates to meet with Jason [from Fazio]
16:21:19 <CharlesL> zakim, next item
16:21:19 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- discuss dates to meet with Jason -- taken up [from Fazio]
16:21:49 <CharlesL> janina: I have talked to Jason and OK for the 18th.
16:21:54 <CharlesL> Fazio: Sounds good.
16:22:28 <CharlesL> janina: I will give him the invite.  Anything of our dimensions have a web aspect and should make this clearer.
16:22:53 <CharlesL> Fazio: Looks like an organizational model but focuses on the web.
16:23:08 <CharlesL> …, We can hear more from him then.
16:23:49 <CharlesL> janina: if we get this right. why this model vs. other models.  Jason can compare and contrast like iso versions etc.
16:24:06 <CharlesL> Lionel_Wolberger_: Do you have a way fwd on this objection?
16:25:08 <CharlesL> Fazio: every organization component has a web flavor to it.
16:25:41 <CharlesL> jlkline: this is an enabling tool
16:26:05 <CharlesL> Fazio: how it is associated with the web.
16:26:43 <CharlesL> Lionel_Wolberger_: I think we have very firm ground to stand on.
16:27:10 <CharlesL> …, is there anything similar in the w3C?
16:27:29 <CharlesL> janina: I am not sure.  We are further out there than anything else.
16:27:50 <CharlesL> jlkline: there is a development processes, could be an expansion on that.
16:28:43 <CharlesL> janina: Jason doesn't think we made it strong enough with ties to the web vs. organization focus.
16:29:24 <CharlesL> jlkline: I believe he wanted it more technical.  Just need to be careful we don't go too far down into the weeds making it technical vs. policy, technology agnostic.
16:29:51 <CharlesL> zakim, next item
16:29:51 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- new business, questions, comments, concerns -- taken up [from Fazio]
16:30:07 <CharlesL> q+
16:30:29 <janina> q+
16:30:48 <CharlesL> charles: any updates on the excel spreadsheet
16:31:51 <CharlesL> Sheri_B-H: I will work on it this week.
16:32:07 <CharlesL> CharlesL: I can't seem to find the spreadsheet link from the draft
16:32:26 <CharlesL> Multiple people: agree we need to make it easier to find.
16:33:44 <CharlesL> Brian: nothing new, no updates here.
16:37:21 <CharlesL> ack me
16:37:33 <CharlesL> ack janina
16:38:39 <CharlesL> rrsagent, make logs public
16:38:45 <CharlesL> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:38:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/01/04-maturity-minutes.html CharlesL
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