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16:02:04 <wolfgang> present+ wolfgang
16:02:11 <tzviya> present+
16:02:46 <zheng_xu> zakim, start this meeting
16:02:46 <Zakim> RRSAgent, make logs Public
16:02:47 <Zakim> Meeting: Publishing Community Group
16:02:51 <AvneeshSingh> agenda?
16:03:49 <wolfgang> Topic 1: Issue 51
16:03:53 <wolfgang> https://github.com/w3c/publishingcg/issues/51
16:04:16 <zheng_xu> agenda+ Discussing https://github.com/w3c/publishingcg/issues/51
16:04:26 <zheng_xu> agenda+ A11y TF update
16:04:35 <zheng_xu> agenda+ EdTF update
16:04:44 <zheng_xu> agenda+ Anti-counterfeiting TF update
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16:05:18 <zheng_xu> wolfgang: introducing https://github.com/w3c/publishingcg/issues/51
16:05:19 <GeorgeK> present+
16:05:31 <zheng_xu> agenda?
16:06:25 <zheng_xu> q?
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16:07:31 <zheng_xu> GeorgeK: this is a well known issue for long time. It will be less problem if there is page number in epub for printer version counter part.
16:07:52 <zheng_xu> ... I think there is a visual locator TF in working group to work on this.
16:08:42 <zheng_xu> q?
16:09:04 <zheng_xu> Bill_Kasdorf_: I suggest we ask for the Visual Locator TF
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16:09:34 <Bill_Kasdorf_> s/Visual Locator TF/Locators TF in the WG
16:09:37 <zheng_xu> q?
16:09:55 <gautier> present+
16:10:39 <zheng_xu> AvneeshSingh: for a11y we have update on metadata. How to show the machine readable a11y metadata
16:11:08 <zheng_xu> ... we reconized user might have different priority for a11y metadata
16:11:25 <wolfgang> s/reconized/recognized/
16:11:42 <zheng_xu> ... we will be providing example for different segment of users
16:12:05 <zheng_xu> ... the 2nd big item is about a11y summary. pass over to george
16:12:38 <zheng_xu> GeorgeK: we finalized a11y summary. We realized it's poorly named.
16:14:10 <AvneeshSingh> User experience guide: https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/UX-Guide-Metadata/principles/
16:14:18 <zheng_xu> q?
16:15:42 <zheng_xu> AvneeshSingh: giving example about a11y summary...
16:16:28 <zheng_xu> ... publisher is providing machine readable a11y metadata
16:17:09 <zheng_xu> ... for more detail please refer the above link
16:18:05 <zheng_xu> GeorgeK: we provide English of summary but translation of phrases might be difficult
16:20:47 <zheng_xu> ... if we could get translation table then people will be able to use the translator table abd it will be great for different retailer.
16:21:05 <zheng_xu> s/abd/and
16:21:22 <zheng_xu> q?
16:21:44 <zheng_xu> wolfgang: next Ed TF update
16:22:54 <zheng_xu> paulB_: we had exercise to categorize items. There is link of our working I will share in the meeting notes shortly
16:23:12 <zheng_xu> ... hopefully some of them we will start discover about user cases
16:23:50 <zheng_xu> ... for example certain format such as game and animation are very interesting category that we hope could be support properly
16:24:00 <zheng_xu> ... overall very productive session today
16:24:01 <zheng_xu> 1?
16:24:04 <zheng_xu> q?
16:25:15 <zheng_xu> GeorgeK: I tried to convert paper to epub but seems school is still using pdf in most case
16:27:25 <zheng_xu> q?
16:27:57 <JamesY_> is this it - https://daisy.org/info-help/time-to-use-the-modern-digital-publishing-format/
16:28:06 <GeorgeK> https://daisy.org/info-help/time-to-use-the-modern-digital-publishing-format/
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16:30:43 <zheng_xu> scribe+
16:31:21 <zheng_xu> zakim, what is on the agenda?
16:31:21 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda:
16:31:23 <Zakim> 1. Discussing https://github.com/w3c/publishingcg/issues/51 [from zheng_xu]
16:31:23 <Zakim> 2. A11y TF update [from zheng_xu]
16:31:23 <Zakim> 3. EdTF update [from zheng_xu]
16:31:23 <Zakim> 4. Anti-counterfeiting TF update [from zheng_xu]
16:31:45 <zheng_xu> zakim, take up next agendum
16:31:45 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Discussing https://github.com/w3c/publishingcg/issues/51 -- taken up [from zheng_xu]
16:32:01 <zheng_xu> close this agendum
16:32:06 <zheng_xu> next agendum
16:32:16 <zheng_xu> close this agendum
16:32:50 <zheng_xu> q?
16:33:28 <AvneeshSingh> Getting late here, so leaving the meeting. Thanks for placing a11y update in beginning of the agenda.
16:34:52 <zheng_xu> GeorgeK: (sharing screen about documentation of Executive Summary)
16:36:27 <zheng_xu> ... I will send this document to paul, we finalized this document and should be ready to share
16:36:44 <zheng_xu> q?
16:39:59 <zheng_xu> q?
16:42:09 <tzviya> q+
16:42:10 <zheng_xu> GeorgeK: on a note of high ed mathML will be supported by next chrome and edge perhaps new year
16:42:13 <zheng_xu> q?
16:43:58 <zheng_xu> tzviya: will also need to test MathML on Safari and Firefox
16:44:05 <zheng_xu> ack tzviya
16:44:06 <tzviya> q-
16:45:05 <zheng_xu> q?
16:45:56 <zheng_xu> next agendum
16:46:08 <zheng_xu> close the agendum
16:46:11 <zheng_xu> next agendum
16:46:19 <zheng_xu> close the agendum
16:46:22 <zheng_xu> next agendum
16:47:17 <zheng_xu> JamesY_: in current anti-counterfeiting meetings we were evaluating existing solutions
16:47:34 <tzviya> https://iscc.codes/#a-proposal-for-a-modern-and-open-content-based-identifier
16:47:39 <tzviya> https://c2pa.org/
16:48:42 <zheng_xu> tzviya: the above two both have prototype, they are still under development.
16:49:32 <zheng_xu> JamesY_: in the meeting it was mentioned could be adopted to epub
16:50:41 <zheng_xu> q?
16:51:15 <zheng_xu> wolfgang: any information regarding licensing of the above two approaches?
16:51:23 <tzviya> q+
16:51:48 <tzviya> q-
16:52:56 <zheng_xu> JamesY_: the c2pa is somehow open. Not sure about licensing yet
16:53:35 <zheng_xu> tzviya: before licensing we probably need to check out if the approaches could be good fit for anti-counterfeiting
16:53:59 <zheng_xu> ... the reading systems will also need to be onboard
16:54:37 <zheng_xu> q?
16:54:57 <gautier> EDRLab will be happy to collaborate on this topic :)
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16:55:51 <zheng_xu> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:55:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/12/14-publishingcg-minutes.html zheng_xu
16:56:04 <zheng_xu> rrsagent, publish minutes
16:56:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/12/14-publishingcg-minutes.html zheng_xu
16:57:02 <zheng_xu> zakim, bye
16:57:02 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been wolfgang, tzviya, Bill_Kasdorf_, GeorgeK, paulB_, gautier
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16:57:15 <zheng_xu> rrsagent, bye
16:57:15 <RRSAgent> I see no action items