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14:55:31 <Paul_Belfanti> Publishing Community Group, Education Task Force Telecon
14:56:01 <Paul_Belfanti> "meeting: Publishing Community Group, Education Task Force Telecon"
14:56:57 <Paul_Belfanti> "Date: 14 December 2022"
14:57:10 <Paul_Belfanti> "Chair: Paul Belfanti"
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15:06:13 <CharlesL> Topic: Interview - Post Grad / Research Librarian
15:06:45 <CharlesL> SueNeu: 4 areas / description of who / key to what, color coded
15:07:03 <CharlesL> …, next to copy over to sorting
15:07:17 <CharlesL> …, Areas of interest
15:07:55 <CharlesL> …, Librarian Open Source - Humanities preserving
15:08:02 <CharlesL> …, data
15:08:42 <CharlesL> …, presentation as video games, 3d, virtual reality (preserved on the web)
15:09:43 <CharlesL> …, Colors: pink - annoying items, green - workflow / publishing web, blue they really liked, circles - direct quotes
15:10:11 <CharlesL> …, epub spec is great, inconsistent features across platforms so basic epubs are only created.
15:11:35 <CharlesL> …, no home for projects, could sort them preserving data, or maybe a different sorting algorithm?  limited scope US/Canada.  interesting to know if researchers in France experience page # issues or other issues we have identified.
15:12:24 <CharlesL> …, everyone talked about massage the metadata to fit their system.  another system to ONIX, no exposure from this group.  A11Y features are vendor dependent.
15:12:52 <CharlesL> …, not sure how to put a11y formats into their catalog
15:12:56 <JF> that's kind of distressing
15:13:07 <CharlesL> James: Marc records carry a11y metadata
15:13:31 <CharlesL> SueNeu: concepts of cataloguing data.
15:13:54 <CharlesL> Paul_Belfanti: not sure about cataloguing process and support for a11y
15:14:48 <CharlesL> Bill: the a11y TF CG crosswalk from a11y epub metadata, / onix / marc records we have lots of details in the standards but go into general buckets in marc
15:15:52 <CharlesL> …, not finalized yet, work is paused. waiting for further developments.
15:16:52 <CharlesL> …, library folks from US and Canada, and we recruited a number of people and they jumpped in and took over the work, but its stalled as we are waiting on the MARC world to improve things.
15:17:26 <CharlesL> MEJay: interface with you all with LRMI group let me know.
15:18:35 <CharlesL> SueNeu: metadata international - most data is in english, even when aggregators use standards the information must match their taxonomy.
15:18:57 <CharlesL> MEJay: we have this data in German with LRMI.
15:19:34 <CharlesL> SueNeu: Interoperability with metadata, fast metadata over ONIX.
15:20:23 <JamesY> https://www.oclc.org/research/areas/data-science/fast.html
15:20:28 <JamesY> FAST - Metadata
15:21:46 <CharlesL> SueNeu: spoke with open access texts to Higher Ed.
15:22:18 <CharlesL> Bill: CCBy license gives open access but content can be adjusted as long as they are ack'ed.
15:22:45 <CharlesL> SueNeu: Open Access CEO books.
15:23:45 <CharlesL> …, will add a link so everyone here can make changes as they see fit.
15:24:04 <CharlesL> Paul_Belfanti: Page #'s is a pretty big issue.
15:24:55 <CharlesL> SueNeu: Said this lack of page #'s is traumatizing when student must cite page #'s and there are no page numbers.
15:25:09 <CharlesL> …, wrote up my first use-case and will send a link.
15:26:19 <CharlesL> Bill_Kasdorf: : is a requirement in EPUB if there is a print counterpart.
15:26:52 <CharlesL> JamesY: Yes but books with no print counterpart should have page numbers.
15:27:14 <CharlesL> …, we put it between sections.
15:27:58 <Paul_Belfanti> Editable Link to Miro Board https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVPHmhWnk=/?share_link_id=815458835151
15:28:11 <CharlesL> Bill_Kasdorf: Fabulous work Susan, thanks!
15:28:41 <CharlesL> Paul_Belfanti: Content formats - games/ 3d / videos I think is a great use-case to develop.
15:29:13 <CharlesL> …, important to make sure there is some guidance that this is handled. Sounds new to me.
15:29:54 <CharlesL> SueNeu: all have monographs but not adequate that they aren't experiencing the content. just a descriptor of it.
15:31:36 <CharlesL> …, Link to use case: Page number use case https://github.com/w3c/publishingcg/issues/51
15:32:02 <Paul_Belfanti> Page number use case https://github.com/w3c/publishingcg/issues/51
15:56:39 <CharlesL> Everyone: Worked on the Miro: Insights Extraction moving all the post-its under the various sections.
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