IRC log of pcg-ed on 2022-12-14
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- Publishing Community Group, Education Task Force Telecon
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- "meeting: Publishing Community Group, Education Task Force Telecon"
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- "Date: 14 December 2022"
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- "Chair: Paul Belfanti"
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- Topic: Interview - Post Grad / Research Librarian
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- SueNeu: 4 areas / description of who / key to what, color coded
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- …, next to copy over to sorting
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- …, Areas of interest
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- …, Librarian Open Source - Humanities preserving
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- …, data
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- …, presentation as video games, 3d, virtual reality (preserved on the web)
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- …, Colors: pink - annoying items, green - workflow / publishing web, blue they really liked, circles - direct quotes
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- …, epub spec is great, inconsistent features across platforms so basic epubs are only created.
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- …, no home for projects, could sort them preserving data, or maybe a different sorting algorithm? limited scope US/Canada. interesting to know if researchers in France experience page # issues or other issues we have identified.
- 15:12:24 [CharlesL]
- …, everyone talked about massage the metadata to fit their system. another system to ONIX, no exposure from this group. A11Y features are vendor dependent.
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- …, not sure how to put a11y formats into their catalog
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- that's kind of distressing
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- James: Marc records carry a11y metadata
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- SueNeu: concepts of cataloguing data.
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- Paul_Belfanti: not sure about cataloguing process and support for a11y
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- Bill: the a11y TF CG crosswalk from a11y epub metadata, / onix / marc records we have lots of details in the standards but go into general buckets in marc
- 15:15:52 [CharlesL]
- …, not finalized yet, work is paused. waiting for further developments.
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- …, library folks from US and Canada, and we recruited a number of people and they jumpped in and took over the work, but its stalled as we are waiting on the MARC world to improve things.
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- MEJay: interface with you all with LRMI group let me know.
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- SueNeu: metadata international - most data is in english, even when aggregators use standards the information must match their taxonomy.
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- MEJay: we have this data in German with LRMI.
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- SueNeu: Interoperability with metadata, fast metadata over ONIX.
- 15:20:23 [JamesY]
- https://www.oclc.org/research/areas/data-science/fast.html
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- FAST - Metadata
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- SueNeu: spoke with open access texts to Higher Ed.
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- Bill: CCBy license gives open access but content can be adjusted as long as they are ack'ed.
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- SueNeu: Open Access CEO books.
- 15:23:45 [CharlesL]
- …, will add a link so everyone here can make changes as they see fit.
- 15:24:04 [CharlesL]
- Paul_Belfanti: Page #'s is a pretty big issue.
- 15:24:55 [CharlesL]
- SueNeu: Said this lack of page #'s is traumatizing when student must cite page #'s and there are no page numbers.
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- …, wrote up my first use-case and will send a link.
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- Bill_Kasdorf: : is a requirement in EPUB if there is a print counterpart.
- 15:26:52 [CharlesL]
- JamesY: Yes but books with no print counterpart should have page numbers.
- 15:27:14 [CharlesL]
- …, we put it between sections.
- 15:27:58 [Paul_Belfanti]
- Editable Link to Miro Board https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVPHmhWnk=/?share_link_id=815458835151
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- Bill_Kasdorf: Fabulous work Susan, thanks!
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- Paul_Belfanti: Content formats - games/ 3d / videos I think is a great use-case to develop.
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- …, important to make sure there is some guidance that this is handled. Sounds new to me.
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- SueNeu: all have monographs but not adequate that they aren't experiencing the content. just a descriptor of it.
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- …, Link to use case: Page number use case https://github.com/w3c/publishingcg/issues/51
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- Page number use case https://github.com/w3c/publishingcg/issues/51
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- Everyone: Worked on the Miro: Insights Extraction moving all the post-its under the various sections.
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