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15:51:34 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Fazio_
15:51:58 <Fazio_> meeting: Maturity Model
15:52:24 <Fazio_> chair: Fazio, SBH
15:52:53 <Fazio_> Agenda+ New Business
15:53:09 <Fazio_>  Agenda+ Discuss Task Force Work Statement
15:58:24 <Fazio_> present+
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15:59:21 <janina> on my way!
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16:00:00 <jlkline> present+
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16:00:45 <janina> present+
16:00:50 <janina> zakim, who's here?
16:00:50 <Zakim> Present: Fazio_, jlkline, CharlesL, janina
16:00:50 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+
16:00:52 <Zakim> On IRC I see Lionel_Wolberger, CharlesL, jlkline, janina, RRSAgent, Zakim, Fazio_, trackbot, jspellman
16:00:59 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, who's here?
16:00:59 <Zakim> Present: Fazio_, jlkline, CharlesL, janina, Lionel_Wolberger
16:01:01 <Zakim> On IRC I see Lionel_Wolberger, CharlesL, jlkline, janina, RRSAgent, Zakim, Fazio_, trackbot, jspellman
16:01:20 <Lionel_Wolberger> scribe: Lionel_Wolberger
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16:01:24 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda?
16:01:26 <Sheri_B-H> present+
16:02:02 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
16:02:02 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- New Business -- taken up [from Fazio_]
16:02:25 <Fazio_> q+
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16:03:15 <janina> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/maturity-model/
16:04:20 <CharlesL> present+
16:05:31 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Roy is taking care of the administratrivia to set us up as a workforce
16:05:40 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... and APA will then do what's needed to complete the process
16:05:51 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
16:05:51 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, Lionel_Wolberger
16:05:57 <janina> ack ja
16:05:57 <Lionel_Wolberger> q?
16:06:01 <Lionel_Wolberger> ack Fazio_
16:06:04 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
16:06:04 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Discuss Task Force Work Statement -- taken up [from Fazio_]
16:07:29 <Lionel_Wolberger> q+
16:08:08 <janina> +1 to David's "over time" wording
16:09:04 <jlkline> q+
16:09:18 <janina> q+
16:11:07 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel: Are we agreed that the TF is Maturity Model TF?
16:11:19 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: the name for the mail list will be maturity-public
16:11:23 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Less words is better
16:11:43 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: And I like the "AMM" (Accessibility Maturity Model)
16:12:00 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... The TF will generally be in context of the APA so accessibility is clear
16:12:20 <Lionel_Wolberger> Sheri_B-H: Like the AMM as well, just move it up.
16:13:08 <Lionel_Wolberger> jlkline: (Made suggestions for various edits)
16:15:16 <Lionel_Wolberger> jlkline: Not sure 'narrative' is the best word here. The mission is to create a model and a tool, not to create a narrative.
16:17:04 <Lionel_Wolberger> jlkline: Do we collect information or data?
16:18:12 <Lionel_Wolberger> Sheri_B-H: the difference between information and data is context
16:19:34 <Lionel_Wolberger> jlkline: (Raised a question about the examples cited: do we need to cite ARIA and WCAG)
16:21:49 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: We do not want to limit ourselves to WAI standards, so the word 'other' is important
16:24:42 <CharlesL> 0
16:25:02 <Sheri_B-H> +1
16:25:06 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: +1 is keep the examples, -1 is remove, and 0 is indifferent
16:25:38 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... for the language, such as Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG)...
16:25:44 <janina> +1
16:25:45 <nadine> 0
16:25:46 <Lionel_Wolberger> -1
16:25:48 <Fazio_> 0
16:25:49 <CharlesL> 0
16:25:50 <Sheri_B-H> +1
16:25:55 <jlkline> poll -1
16:32:48 <Lionel_Wolberger> CharlesL: Should we look over the comments?
16:33:05 <Lionel_Wolberger> Sheri_B-H: No need, they were just reminders and a 'todo' list
16:33:31 <Lionel_Wolberger> Poll: +1 if you agree to forward this draft to APA management
16:33:33 <CharlesL> +1
16:33:33 <Lionel_Wolberger> +1
16:33:33 <Sheri_B-H> +1
16:33:36 <Fazio_> +1
16:33:36 <janina> +1
16:34:06 <Lionel_Wolberger> Jeff also sends +1
16:34:21 <Lionel_Wolberger> Fazio_: We have a work statement to go forward!
16:36:03 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: APA intends to have the CfC at the beginning of the year, so watch your email list
16:38:20 <Lionel_Wolberger> CharlesL: Consider embedding the actual excel document in github
16:39:40 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: There are advantages to working in CSV
16:39:59 <Lionel_Wolberger> Sheri_B-H: We would need to verify that the formulas work in CSV
16:41:18 <Lionel_Wolberger> Fazio_: File a github issue to sort this out
16:43:52 <Fazio_> rrsagent, make minutes
16:43:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/12/14-maturity-minutes.html Fazio_
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