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12:39:02 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Lionel_Wolberger
12:39:20 <Lionel_Wolberger> Meeting: Adapt Task Force Monday Teleconference 12 December 2022
12:39:24 <Lionel_Wolberger> Chair: Lionel_Wolberger
12:39:28 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+
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15:01:48 <janina> agenda?
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15:03:14 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda?
15:03:18 <Lionel_Wolberger> Hi all
15:03:28 <Lionel_Wolberger> I'll join audio in 2 min
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15:05:54 <matatk> agenda?
15:06:22 <matatk> scribe+ matatk
15:06:28 <Lionel_Wolberger> scribe+ Lionel_Wolberger
15:06:28 <matatk> zakim, next item
15:06:28 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Holiday schedule -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
15:06:57 <matatk> janina: Suggest we meet next week.
15:07:03 <matatk> q+
15:08:09 <matatk> janina: We're off on the 26th and on the 2nd. We can meet on the 9th. The 16th is Martin Luther King day in the US, so wouldn't be meeting then.
15:08:38 <matatk> janina: I'd like to schedule a joint meeting with the Web for Children CG. 23rd of January or later. That may help us decide which attributes to next move to CR. They have some proposals.
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15:09:05 <matatk> janina: We may be able to get Microsoft's support.
15:09:42 <matatk> Lionel_Wolberger: Who can set up the CG meeting?
15:09:44 <matatk> janina: I can.
15:10:23 <becky> present+
15:11:35 <matatk> ack me
15:11:37 <matatk> zakim, next item
15:11:37 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Recruiting -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
15:11:48 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
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15:12:44 <Lionel_Wolberger> I lost audio... is it a storm on my end?
15:14:08 <matatk> janina: Suggest we think of which communities we'd like to recruit from, and work on this after MLK day. We need to think about communities we want to serve, and help needed with implementations.
15:15:34 <Lionel_Wolberger> q?
15:15:40 <matatk> zakim, next item
15:15:40 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- CR status: Did the CfC conclude, and the draft transitioned to CR? Etc. -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
15:15:41 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda?
15:16:25 <matatk> janina: There were no objections in APA to relying on our existing CfC being used for the Symbols Module.
15:16:53 <matatk> ... So we should be able to make the request for the Symbols Module.
15:16:57 <matatk> Roy: Yes.
15:17:23 <matatk> janina: The AAC Registry FPWD was approved and Roy has asked for publication. We're finishing the messaging. FPWD of registry should be published tomorrow.
15:17:24 <Roy> https://github.com/w3c/transitions/issues/478
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15:17:54 <matatk> Roy: After the APA meeting last week, I created this transition request.
15:18:40 <matatk> ... Management is pinging the TAG, awaiting their resposne. Hope we can publish before Christmas.
15:18:49 <matatk> janina: What if there is silence from the TAG?
15:19:01 <matatk> Roy: Expect we should be able to publish as long as there are no objections.
15:19:24 <matatk> janina: So we should have some update by Monday on this.
15:19:37 <matatk> ... Next week is the last week to publish anything this year.
15:19:41 <matatk> Roy: The last date is the 23rd.
15:19:51 <matatk> ... We aim for the 22nd.
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15:20:44 <matatk> janina: Is Shawn aware of the messaging we have for CR?
15:21:12 <matatk> Roy: I think there was a PR for Adapt (as well as the registry FPWD) last week. Will double confirm.
15:21:29 <Roy> https://github.com/w3c/adapt/pull/236
15:23:11 <matatk> janina: Any progress on the explainer matatk?
15:23:19 <matatk> matatk: No, will do that ASAP.
15:24:25 <matatk> q+
15:26:18 <matatk> ack me
15:26:21 <matatk> zakim, next item
15:26:21 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Symbol Module Implementations Status (CR) -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
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15:28:16 <matatk> janina: As soon as CR is done, we are going to need to focus on this primarily.
15:28:30 <matatk> ... We need two independent implementations, on the UA side and on the content side.
15:29:12 <matatk> ... It'd be good if it was something that people who use symbols would like to use. The ADA form would be a powerful example.
15:30:18 <matatk> ... The AC votes when we want to move from Candidate Recomendation (CR) to Proposed Recommendation (PR). As I mentioned to Shawn, that's press release time. This is significant work for the W3C, the industry, and general news.
15:31:29 <matatk> q+
15:35:31 <Lionel_Wolberger> q?
15:35:32 <matatk> ack me
15:41:46 <matatk> agenda?
15:44:53 <matatk> matatk: Some suggestions: games, educational games, we also need to talk with Bliss about the prototype editor.
15:45:46 <matatk> janina: Suggests AI may be useful there to fuzzy match words to concepts (matatk agrees, the current approach is naive; need to speak with Bliss about what level of expertise is requried for markup).
15:46:22 <matatk> Lionel_Wolberger: Advocacy organizations too. Specifically those with users who have their own separate symbol sets.
15:46:35 <matatk> Lionel_Wolberger: Organizations with kiosks/tablets?
15:46:50 <matatk> becky: Isn't the (AAC) tablet created specifically to the person?
15:47:16 <matatk> Lionel_Wolberger: Yes, but was wondering about a general web tablet in this case.
15:47:21 <matatk> agenda?
15:48:21 <matatk> janina: A good starting point would be to look at the web pages of teh NGOs and advocacy organizations, to see if there is procedural stuff (e.g. forms) that could be marked up.
15:48:34 <Lionel_Wolberger> q?
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15:49:32 <matatk> Lionel_Wolberger: The next items (which we will get to next time) continue our series on due dilligence; please have a look at these and form your opinions.
15:50:34 <matatk> Lionel_Wolberger: Thank you janina, Roy, matatk for working on CR stuff behind the scenes.
15:53:46 <matatk> becky: Adding to the thought about devices: a user's device would be tailored and very specific to them. In a shared setting though, where there may not be budget sufficient for tailoring, we should do what we can to make the adaptations.
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16:17:07 <matatk> regrets+ Charles
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16:18:09 <matatk> zakim, bye
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