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19:46:00 <Matt_King> MEETING: ARIA and Assistive Technologies Community Group
19:46:09 <Matt_King> CHAIR: Matt King
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20:09:46 <Matt_King> TOPIC: Meeting schedule for Dec and Jan
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20:11:16 <Matt_King> No meetings dec 22, dec 29, nor Jan 5
20:11:22 <Matt_King> Will meet Dec 15
20:11:55 <Matt_King> TOPIC: Update on JAWS bug fixes
20:12:27 <Matt_King> James: met w/Vispero this morning about upcoming jaws 2023 update
20:12:41 <Matt_King> Expecting release mid to end of next week.
20:12:54 <Matt_King> Fixed majority of issues within the 8 test plans.
20:13:07 <Matt_King> Discussed which plans would be priority to retest.
20:13:25 <Matt_King> so we can publish them in APG before end of year
20:13:44 <Matt_King> Retest would be alert, toggle, and radio group.
20:14:49 <Matt_King> command button and link, although these two already have 100%
20:15:54 <Matt_King> Matt: No feedback yet on new candidate test experience
20:16:53 <Matt_King> Asked braille testing
20:18:32 <Matt_King> Vispero is interested in braille support testing.
20:18:53 <Matt_King> We don't know when it will be on our roadmap yet; is definitely in future scope.
20:19:15 <Matt_King> Seth: May require revisiting some design decisions.
20:19:31 <Matt_King> TOPIC: Planning retesting
20:19:58 <Matt_King> Matt: Ideally, jaws 2023 update is shipped wednesday.
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20:23:14 <Matt_King> Focus of testing for December is retesting to support publishing AT support tables for as many of the 8 test plans in candidate phase as possible
20:25:06 <s3ththompson> Matt_King: test plans include: alert, command button, toggle button, link
20:25:24 <s3ththompson> Matt_King: what we need for retesting with JAWS are alert and toggle button... those are the ones where JAWS has bugfixes
20:27:36 <s3ththompson> Matt_King: let's say we get alert out there... we would need it to be retested by 2 ppl with JAWS 2023 and they have to get the same results
20:29:27 <s3ththompson> Matt_King: for toggle button, the failing test is that when you read the current line, the role is not included.
20:37:35 <s3ththompson> Matt_King: test plans include: alert (updated test version), command button, toggle button, link
20:38:10 <s3ththompson> s3ththompson: i suggest we add the December 9 version (whenever PR is merged) for all 5 test plans to the test queue. this will mean that the retesting is not affecting the data currently in candidate review
20:39:48 <s3ththompson> Matt_King: by dec 19, there will be at least 2 if not 3 test plans retested with JAWS 2023... do we know what will happen then to make sure that data is reflected on the reports page?
20:46:31 <s3ththompson> James Scholes: to restart we'll update alert & radio group. then we add all 5 test plans to the test queue with the latest version and latest commit
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20:46:43 <s3ththompson> James Scholes: then we need to assign people to retest those 5 as they're able
20:46:56 <s3ththompson> Matt_King: right, and we probably need to do it all in the same order
20:47:32 <s3ththompson> James Scholes: alert, command button, link, toggle button, radio group would be complexity order
21:04:27 <s3ththompson> Assignments are as follows; for latest NVDA (2022.4?) PAC will test all 5 and Alyssa will test alert, command button, and link and Louis the other 2; for JAWS 2023, someone at PAC and Louis will test all 5 plans, with Matt as backup; for VoiceOver, someone from PAC and Louis will test all 5 plans
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