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12:02:48 <kaz> meeting: WoT Architecture/Profile
12:03:23 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool
12:03:30 <kaz> chair: Lagally
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12:04:27 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Architecture_WebConf#Architecture_.2B_Profile_-_Dec_1st.2C_2022
12:05:45 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
12:07:00 <McCool_> topic: minutes
12:07:53 <McCool_> ml: review minutes from 1 Dec 2022 (Arch call)
12:08:03 <kaz> i|rev|-> https://www.w3.org/2022/12/01-wot-arch-minutes.html Dec-1|
12:10:05 <McCool_> mm: I was not there, but am noting the conversation about oauth; we need to look at the client flow, not the code flow; see comments on issues
12:10:15 <McCool_> ml: any changes needed to minutes?
12:10:22 <McCool_> ... no objections, approved
12:11:06 <McCool_> mm: see PR 331
12:11:09 <McCool_> ml: let's revisit
12:11:16 <McCool_> topic: Testfest prep
12:11:31 <McCool_> ml: on implementation status, was looking at xrefs
12:12:14 <McCool_> ... all vs min; min excludes 1.0 results
12:12:23 <kaz> i|let's|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/331 wot-profile PR 331 - narrowing down oauth required flows|
12:12:29 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:12:33 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:12:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/12/07-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz
12:12:41 <McCool_> ... long story short, merged by accident
12:12:49 <kaz> present+ Ryuichi_Matsukura
12:13:19 <McCool_> ml: want to understand where we have gaps
12:14:04 <McCool_> mm: so these are TD results, and want to avoid things that are not widely supported
12:16:45 <McCool_> mm: need to differentiate corner cases (that may not even be good ideas) from things that are important but with few impls for other reasons
12:16:53 <McCool_> ... e.g client flow
12:19:03 <McCool_> mm: client flow is important for factory automation, but historically we only had code
12:19:17 <McCool_> ml: only impl seems to be from TinyIoT
12:22:01 <McCool_> mm: would like to request client flow; also, note that oauth uses bearer tokens so adding that would not be a big implementation burden
12:25:55 <McCool_> mm: in PR 331, seems we have a consensus to add client; also, in issue #41, mentioned that node-wot only does CLIENT flow, but this is not reflected in the result CSV files; we should investigate
12:26:04 <McCool_> ... it may be the result files are in error
12:26:21 <kaz> i|in PR 331|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/331 wot-profile PR 331 - narrowing down oauth required flows|
12:27:32 <McCool_> ml: (edits PR 331 to add client flow)
12:28:27 <McCool_> ml: in other subtopics, want to discuss what a simple consumer looks like
12:28:45 <McCool_> ml: for example, a simple consumer that reads a TD and invokes all actions
12:29:09 <McCool_> ... for example, some are synchronous, some are asynch
12:31:08 <McCool_> mm: personally suggest we have a number of small consumers for test purposes
12:31:21 <McCool_> ml: would be helpful just to have a code template
12:31:49 <McCool_> mm: thinking just JSONparse and request in a node.js script
12:32:22 <McCool_> topic: Contributions
12:32:37 <McCool_> ml: would like to merge everything today that we can and get to a draft
12:33:22 <kaz> present+ Sebastian_Kaebisch
12:34:09 <McCool_> ml: let's merge the updated PR 331 (code and client) flows.
12:34:15 <McCool_> ml: (merged)
12:36:09 <McCool_> ml: PR #314 - auto scheme, but only if results in another supported scheme
12:36:54 <McCool_> mm: suggest we merge this, but raise additional issues for the other discussion points
12:37:32 <McCool_> ml: given ben's comments, will wait until next week
12:37:39 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:37:42 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:37:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/12/07-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz
12:37:49 <McCool_> ... mm, can you create issues for the related points?
12:38:14 <McCool_> mm: ok
12:38:30 <kaz> i/updated PR 331/subtopic: PR 331/
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12:38:42 <McCool_> ml: then if no objections, will merge next week (even if no meeting)
12:38:52 <sebastian> sorry, I have to go. Bye
12:38:52 <kaz> i|updated PR 331|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/331 wot-profile PR 331 - narrowing down oauth required flows|
12:39:03 <kaz> i|PR #314|subtopic: PR 314|
12:39:36 <kaz> i|PR #314|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/314 wot-profile PR 314 - Allow auto security scheme for other permitted security schemes|
12:39:41 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:39:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/12/07-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz
12:40:10 <McCool_> ml: PR 315 - improve link assertions
12:40:27 <McCool_> ... change text to say "best effort"
12:40:56 <kaz> i|PR 315|subtopic: PR 315|
12:41:13 <kaz> i|PR 315|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/315 wot-profile PR 315 - Improve link assertions|
12:41:41 <McCool_> ... comment in a note, but it's not an editors' note, so would be in the final text
12:42:15 <McCool_> ml: propose merging
12:42:18 <McCool_> mm: ok with me
12:42:24 <McCool_> ml: (merges)
12:42:38 <McCool_> subtopic: PR 318
12:42:46 <McCool_> ml: convert ednote to note
12:43:15 <McCool_> ... this is about readmultiple; don't want to remove from text, also remote the word "currently"
12:43:21 <McCool_> s/remote/remove/
12:43:44 <McCool_> ml: does not really change language, ben agrees; suggest merging
12:43:48 <McCool_> mm: concur
12:43:54 <McCool_> ml: (merges)
12:44:03 <kaz> i|convert|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/318 wot-profile PR 318 - Converting from ednote to note|
12:44:04 <McCool_> subtopic: PR 321
12:44:09 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:44:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/12/07-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz
12:44:19 <McCool_> ml: remove mention of plugfest experience in intro
12:44:23 <kaz> s/sorry, I have to go. Bye//
12:44:25 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:44:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/12/07-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz
12:44:41 <McCool_> mm: is old text
12:44:49 <McCool_> ... agree to delete
12:45:08 <McCool_> ml: (merges)
12:45:14 <kaz> i|old t|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/321 wot-profile PR 321 - Removing mention of plugfest experience|
12:45:15 <McCool_> subtopic: PR 325
12:45:17 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:45:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/12/07-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz
12:45:28 <McCool_> ml: webhook subscription mechanisms
12:45:58 <McCool_> ... some fixes as discussed last week, listed in PR, eg. no payload in DELETE
12:46:12 <McCool_> ... span->div change reverted
12:46:55 <McCool_> ... need another pass though to completely resolve the "normative text in examples" problem; could add an ednote as temporary patch
12:47:18 <McCool_> ml: these changes are all in the webhook section, right?
12:48:58 <McCool_> mm: I would vote to merge even if not perfect; can be baseline for further improvements
12:49:14 <McCool_> ml: is additional work coming for this section
12:49:17 <McCool_> ml: (merges)
12:50:10 <McCool_> subtopic: PR 332
12:50:30 <kaz> i|webhook s|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/325 wot-profile PR 325 - Webhook subscription mechanism|
12:51:00 <McCool_> mm: just updates the impl report using the new tooling, also copied template.csv to manual.csv in prep for testfest
12:51:05 <McCool_> ml: (merges)
12:51:14 <kaz> i|just up|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/332 wot-profile PR 332 - Testing CSV cleanup|
12:52:13 <McCool_> subtopic: other PRs
12:52:17 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:52:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/12/07-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz
12:52:42 <McCool_> mm: have said I will refactor 297; will also look at 334
12:53:27 <McCool_> topic: Publication
12:53:53 <kaz> s|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/325 wot-profile PR 325 - Webhook subscription mechanism||
12:54:03 <kaz> i|webhook subs|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/325 wot-profile PR 325 - Webhook subscription mechanism|
12:54:05 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:54:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/12/07-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz
12:54:12 <McCool_> ml: already have a FPWD, should we publish an update?
12:54:51 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/TR/2020/WD-wot-profile-20201124/ WoT Profile FPWD
12:56:07 <McCool_> mm: support a WD update, will fix respec error as part of statics
12:56:13 <kaz> i|topic: Publication|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/297 wot-profile PR 297 - Revised Abstract and Introduction - fixes #115 and fixes #190|
12:56:41 <kaz> i|topic: Publication|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/334 wot-profile PR 334 - WIP: Provide example in the new introduction section|
12:56:44 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:56:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/12/07-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz
12:56:48 <mlagally> proposal: use the current version of the editors draft including small editorial changes as the next working draft and publish it.
12:57:27 <mlagally> proposal: use the current version of the editors draft after fixing respec errors as the next working draft and publish it.
12:57:55 <McCool_> q?
12:57:58 <mlagally> resolution: use the current version of the editors draft after fixing respec errors as the next working draft and publish it.
12:59:29 <McCool_> mm: I will take care of generating the static version and will ask kaz to publish when it is ready
12:59:52 <kaz> [adjourned]
12:59:54 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:59:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/12/07-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz
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