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12:03:43 <kaz> meeting: WoT Scripting API
12:04:59 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Zoltan_Kis
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12:06:25 <kaz> present+ Jan_Romann
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12:09:01 <kaz> present+ Cristiano_Aguzzi
12:09:11 <zkis> scribe: zkis
12:10:20 <cris_> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Scripting_API_WebConf
12:10:24 <zkis> Topic: past meeting
12:10:42 <kaz> i/WebConf/topic: Agenda/
12:10:55 <cris_> https://www.w3.org/2022/11/28-wot-script-minutes.html
12:10:55 <kaz> i/past/ca: Agenda tbd.../
12:11:05 <kaz> s/https/-> https/
12:11:10 <kaz> s/html/html Nov-28/
12:11:20 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
12:11:29 <kaz> chair: Cristiano/Daniel
12:11:34 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:11:38 <zkis> CA: will chair until Daniel comes
12:11:41 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:11:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/12/05-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
12:11:48 <kaz> s/ca:/CA:/
12:13:10 <zkis> No objections on the past minutes, accepted.
12:14:18 <zkis> Topic: issue 364
12:14:27 <cris_> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/364
12:15:38 <kaz> q+
12:16:04 <kaz> ack k
12:16:06 <zkis> ZK: one question is how the algorithm for traversing/exploring TDDs defined
12:16:27 <zkis> CA: some info exists in the Discovery spec, if not a defined algorithm
12:16:47 <zkis> ... in the Discoverer process section
12:16:47 <kaz> s/https/-> https/
12:16:56 <kaz> s/364/364 Issue 364 - Discovery API - Alternatives/
12:17:01 <kaz> q?
12:17:35 <zkis> ZK: should we define the formal algorithm with dependency to the Discovery spec
12:18:01 <zkis> CA: is this a Scripting algorithm, or should it follow the Discovery spec?
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12:18:45 <zkis> ZK: I think we can define that algorithm and get it reviewed by the Discovery TF.
12:19:02 <zkis> CA: a lot of MAY clauses in the Discovery spec (mostly suggestions).
12:19:30 <kaz> present+ Daniel_Peintner
12:19:39 <zkis> CA: we can interpret that to specify a discovery algorithm
12:20:27 <zkis> CA: I agree we could do later exposing the option of how deep the TDD traversal is done
12:20:35 <zkis> Jan: agree to leave it for later
12:21:24 <dape> q+
12:21:56 <zkis> ZK: a second question in the issue: if we ever do local discovery, will it be a separate method or a dict option
12:22:05 <zkis> ... I suggest separate method
12:22:15 <zkis> CA: agree about separate method
12:22:25 <zkis> DP: we can decide that later, too
12:22:45 <zkis> DP: maybe we can open an issue to track that
12:22:49 <zkis> CA: agreed
12:24:14 <zkis> Topic: next calls
12:24:50 <zkis> DP: we have 2 remaining meetings this year, on 12 and 19 Dec. Then on Jan 16.
12:25:41 <zkis> CA: added to the wiki?
12:25:51 <zkis> DP: yes, in the global wiki
12:25:54 <dape> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Cancellations_and_Schedule_Updates
12:26:00 <zkis> q?
12:26:03 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Cancellations_and_Schedule_Updates Cancellations on the main wiki
12:26:25 <dape> ack dape
12:26:28 <zkis> ack dape
12:27:14 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Scripting_API_WebConf#Agenda Scripting API wiki Agenda
12:27:41 <zkis> Topic: PR 441
12:27:49 <cris_> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/pull/441
12:29:41 <dape> q+
12:30:14 <zkis> ZK: a question on whether to use promise for discovery
12:30:21 <dape> ack dape
12:30:34 <zkis> DP: that aligns well with the other conformance classes
12:33:47 <zkis> ZK: we have a single generic discovery algorithm, a meta-algorithm used in all the others
12:35:20 <kaz> s/https/-> https/
12:35:28 <kaz> s/441/441 PR 441 - Align the discovery API with the Discovery spec. WiP./
12:35:38 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:35:46 <dape> q+
12:35:46 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:35:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/12/05-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
12:35:49 <kaz> q?
12:36:50 <zkis> ack dape
12:37:22 <zkis> DP: can we express conformance classes in Web IDL?
12:37:29 <zkis> ZK: no, only in prose
12:41:13 <zkis> ZK: we might miss the specific directory discovery algorithm, factored out in a separate section
12:41:35 <zkis> ... so please review that with an eye on that
12:41:48 <zkis> ... I could add another commit to include a skeleton
12:42:12 <zkis> DP: by just looking at the Web IDL, cannot tell what belongs to conformance classes
12:44:17 <zkis> ZK: we could do separate API objects for the conformance classes, but usually that means separate spec, because of the security, privacy and permissions.
12:46:56 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:46:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/12/05-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
12:47:35 <kaz> i/Agenda tbd/scribenick: kaz/
12:47:41 <zkis> ZK: complex namespace hierarchies would not be good
12:47:46 <zkis> CA: and not supported any more
12:47:50 <kaz> i/will chair u/scribenick: zkis/
12:47:51 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:47:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/12/05-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
12:47:58 <dape> q+
12:48:15 <zkis> CA: so, we need to review the PR and eventually add commits
12:49:28 <zkis> DP: what about multiple URL types for discovery, are they specified in the Discovery spec?
12:50:09 <zkis> CA: there is a section about CoAP, but it will be addressed maybe in the next charter
12:50:21 <zkis> ... right now we can support CoAP and HTTP
12:51:07 <zkis> DP: maybe the requestThingDescription() might remain open in the end
12:51:45 <zkis> ZK: good point about how are we testing the API? test suite...
12:52:52 <zkis> ZK: I suggest we define a narrowed use case for requestThingDescription(), not a generic do-it-all method
12:55:06 <zkis> CA: other new features, like cancelable actions are for the next charter
12:57:27 <zkis> Topic: issue 417
12:57:40 <cris_> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/417
12:57:45 <zkis> CA: will discuss it later
12:58:31 <zkis> Topic: issue 409
12:58:35 <cris_> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/409
12:58:51 <zkis> ZK: makes sense to revive the discussion, and eventually conclude in this round
12:59:09 <kaz> s/https/-> https/
12:59:33 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/417|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/417 emitPropertyChange does not take low-level event apis into account|
13:00:00 <kaz> s/409/409 Issue 409 - Harmonize the exposing process/
13:00:18 <kaz> s/emitP/Issue 417 - emitP/
13:00:21 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:00:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/12/05-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
13:00:37 <zkis> adjourned
13:01:01 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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