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WCAG2ICT Task Force Teleconference

10 Nov 2022

Attendees

Present
Chuck, pday1, ChrisLoiselle, olivia-hogan-stark, ThorstenKatzmann, Mike_Pluke, daniel-montalvo, maryjom, Devanshu, Cara_Henderson__, bruce_bailey, MichaelC, ShawnT, AnastasiaLanz, FernandaBonnin, LauraBMiller, Sam
Regrets
Bryan Trogdon
Chair
Mary Jo Mueller
Scribe
olivia-hogan-stark

Contents


<maryjom> meeting: WCAG2ICT Task Force Meeting

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Announcements

maryjom: Michael has done a conversion to markdown, will share, getting feedback
... work statement updates: AG working group approval, add editors to list, and indicate co-facilitator status

Success Criterion templates

maryjom: Made updates to templates

<maryjom> https://ibm.box.com/v/WCAG2ICT-SC-Template

<maryjom> https://ibm.box.com/v/WCAG2ICTscExample

maryjom: example of completed SC shared

<maryjom> https://github.com/w3c/wcag2ict/wiki/Template-for-Success-Criterion-using-wiki-markdown

<Zakim> pday, you wanted to say cannot access the SC example

<Chuck> Me either.

pday: wikitemplate not made public

<scribe> ACTION: maryjom to make public after the meeting

maryjom: created a recording of instructions from last week

<maryjom> https://github.com/w3c/wcag2ict/wiki#templates-for-success-criterion

bruce_bailey: Template access question

maryjom: let know what you are having trouble accessing
... everyone should have full access, it is just the box folder and content that IBM may be creating weird security permissions
... We are ready to have something to look at and talk about. Have a good view of what needs to be done for each SC.

Markdown version of files (Michael)

michaelc: Working on script to use markdown. Will be sharing.
... one file for intro, single markdown file for each SC

<bruce_bailey> thanks MC -- i think more pieces has to be better !

michaelc: More scripting in regenerated document. Will need to enhance script to deal with content and deal with formatting
... Described unique brackets configurations, but otherwise it is normal markdown

<pday1> +1 for simple glossary / for respec commands - maybe it could go on the wiki

maryjom: ask for email of pointers/definitions

<Mike_Pluke> Stepping out of the meeting for 30 minutes or more.

michaelc: shell doc will still be HTML, commands to load the markdown. Doc will be minimum HTML.

<Zakim> bruce_bailey, you wanted to ask for demo of trivial edit, preview, and back ?

michaelc: Making change? Creat a branch, you'll get a copy, navigate to file, click edit icon, get code view, make you edits. Then you can preview. Now you can commit changes/go back.

<ShawnT> I'd still like to see a markdown toolbar

michaelc: don't forget to commit!

maryjom: If there is a web term you have to do a replacement for how would you do that? Bypass blocks, for example?

michaelc: Copy text and make the changes. Making changes in WCAG2ICT file. Sharing example
... matter of finding the right file

bruce_bailey: great for working on one file at a time - too tedious for global search and replace

michaelc: May need to do custom code for notes. Will make it a consistent thing.

<Zakim> bruce_bailey, you wanted to see term reference again please

ShawnT: Not a way to add a class to a paragraph, but you can use HTML inside markdown

michaelc: Sharing define term example.. brackets with equal sign in middle tells it is a term. As long as term exists by same name, it will be able to link it.

<ChrisLoiselle> https://respec.org/docs/#definitions-and-linking is I think what Michael was pointing toward

maryjom: when initially drafting use templates then we transfer to markdown of document. Other options as well.
... editors will get together to start seeding the docs and get basic info in there

Final Poll results & discussion

<maryjom> https://github.com/w3c/wcag2ict/discussions/48

maryjom: Poll results - even between adding new section on background and comparison. One response on change log. Asking for discussion on certain answers
... Discussed usefulness of background

<maryjom> Minutes discussion from last week: https://www.w3.org/2022/11/03-wcag2ict-minutes#item01

maryjom: had quick discussion on verbiage and references

<Zakim> Chuck, you wanted to poll if anybody who supported the comparison with WCAG2ICT objects to the background.

<maryjom> Poll: Do you think we should have a Background section?

maryjom: I think a background is useful because of the use of this note regulatory. Poll on background session.

<LauraBMiller> +1 yes background

<FernandaBonnin> +1

<ThorstenKatzmann> 1+

+1

<pday1> +1

<Devanshu> +1

<Chuck> +.5 (I like the idea, but do not object to not)

<Cara_Henderson__> +1

<ChrisLoiselle> +1

<bruce_bailey> +1

<AnastasiaLanz> +1

<ShawnT> +1

maryjom: everyone on board, there is a resolution

RESOLUTION: Add a Background section to the WCAG2ICT document to explain how and where the 2013 WCAG2ICT Note has been relied upon.

maryjom: looking for someone to draft resolution

LauraBMiller: Will volunteer, looking for someone with experience to assist

<bruce_bailey> i will be happen to add some stuff once we get started

<maryjom> https://github.com/w3c/wcag2ict/discussions/48#discussioncomment-4047612

<LauraBMiller> When is it due?

maryjom: Due in a week or two. Should be a quick paragraph.

<Zakim> bruce_bailey, you wanted to ask if new file or add to another file or work out in issue thread ?

maryjom: See as another section to the introduction
... Next - comparison section between original and this one

<maryjom> Draft resolution: Add a “Comparison to the 2013 WCAG2ICT Note“ section to the WCAG2ICT Note.

<Chuck> +1

<FernandaBonnin> +1

+1

<Cara_Henderson__> +1

<Devanshu> +1

<ThorstenKatzmann> +1

<pday1> +1

<bruce_bailey> +1

<Sam> +1

RESOLUTION: Add a “Comparison to the 2013 WCAG2ICT Note“ section to the WCAG2ICT Note.

maryjom: Will put placeholder in section at time. As we are working on doc, we can make sure it is up to date.

<maryjom> https://github.com/w3c/wcag2ict/discussions/48#discussioncomment-3984058

maryjom: Comment on contents of comparison section - wasn't sure what else to include? New definition terms? "NEW" indicator in glossary?

michaelc: A few options, editorial decision

maryjom: Next - Change log

<maryjom> Poll: Do you think we should have a Change log section?

<bruce_bailey> -1 no detail change log

-1

<Sam> -1

<ShawnT> +1 if we can automate it

<FernandaBonnin> -1

<pday1> -1 if it is very detailed and technical - I think the higher level summary in comparison will be more useful

<Devanshu> -1

<AnastasiaLanz> -1

RESOLUTION: Do not add a Change log section to the WCAG2ICT Note.

<maryjom> https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/13/views/6

<bruce_bailey> fwiw i think it is kramdown extension which has me used to added class references

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: maryjom to make public after the meeting
 

Summary of Resolutions

  1. Add a Background section to the WCAG2ICT document to explain how and where the 2013 WCAG2ICT Note has been relied upon.
  2. Add a “Comparison to the 2013 WCAG2ICT Note“ section to the WCAG2ICT Note.
  3. Do not add a Change log section to the WCAG2ICT Note.
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