Meeting minutes
Design Discussion for AT Support Tables
<Matt_King> MK: Goal to have AT support tables for at least a few examples in APG before year end.
<isaacdurazo> https://
<Matt_King> Isaac: This shows a stretch goal of embedding capability so people can share/use these tables on other sites.
<Matt_King> The baseline goal for this first build would show the table of support for 3 screen readers and multiple browsers.
<Matt_King> Still working on adding version numbers to AT.
<Matt_King> We don't yet show that in aria-at.
<Matt_King> Matt: described aria-at working process and definition of test plan status
JN: Have you looked as CSS reporting for WPT, its something out there
ID: They use numbers rather than progess bars
JN: I am not saying I like it, it has accessibility problems, maybe we can work with them
ID: I lost the last part
<jamesn> https://
JN: I think we should work with other groups for consisency and accessibility
MK: Are you talking about the presentation
JN: They are using pie charst with green and red, which is not accessible
MK: For at least this first iteration, we do not want to expand the scope
MK: If you have some feed back that would work for us and WPT, we could get feedback from APG ussers
MK: That might be a first step
JN: I will think about that, and I like consistency
JN: We need it for ARIA spec too
MK: I like the idea of consistency as a target
MK: Right now WPT is using pies and we are using progress bars
ID: We are using spec document, I have not seen the pie charts, x out of y in ttheir results and then they use color codes...
ID: One thing that I am wondering percent versus numbers
ID: You don't know the number of tests
JG: Concerned about using the numbers, it maybe too much informationo
MK: I feel strongly about the numbers, we will be using it for new features, and there will be questions about implementation
MK: I think our readers will understand
JN: Can we promote competition for implementation
MK: I have two different forms of slider or carousel, if they are different people can compare implementation
MK: Helping people make simple comparisons is important on implementation
ID: I like the idea of helping people compare
ID: Can we move to next item
ID: The table will be assistive technology support
ID: We will have a paragraph instead of a table evenetually
ID: We will be changing the structure of the table, there will be more ATs than browsers, so more columsn than rows
ID: Adding "candidate" versus "recommended"
ID: The cells are clickable and take you to aria-at results
ID: When you click the progress bar it will take you to the test plan
ID: When you click on the embed button it will open something to copy... lot's of options....
ID: That is for next year
MK: That's great
MK: When there is no data, I want people to know not to scroll down there
ID: The heading will be updated
MK: "Data is not available", thank you Issac
QA plan for restructured repository
MK: I have added to the PR a plan for what reviewers need to do, three different buckets
MK: We are not ready for that yet, alex is on the call
MK: This is a PR that keeps gettign more complex
MK Alex can you share where we are?
AF: I am working on the WAI ARIA repo, I hope to have a link a week or so, we will have a simplier build system
AF: We are gettign somewhere
MK: Are there any technical issues, last week we talked about the warning and note classes
MK: There are 44 notes, will you be able to change the classes to markup
AF: I am not including that in the week time line, it would be helpful for some one to change the classes to markup
MK: Adding a an appropriate header...
AF: It needs to be wrapped in a DIV, it is currently on alot of different elements including lists
AF: We need a DIV and a headline ...
JG: What is that you need?
MK: I can make a branch and PR and JG could you add to it
JG: I can do that
AF: I think it is similar
MK: I will take a look at them by Thursday, make a note to myself
MK: Hopefully by next week..., I am hopoing for 6 people to help with the review
MK: About 60-90 minutes for the review
MK: We have until 11/30 to get it done, we will have a discussion before publishing
HZ: November 8th is a holiday at UI
MK: I will assign you with a bucket, we can discuss asynchronously
MK: Anything else Alex?
AF: I don't think so
MK: If we are planning on a deploy top production, that dennis has the redirects
AF: We are tracking that
Checkbox key repeat fix
<Matt_King> github: https://
MK: Is there any discussion about the premise of the issue
MK: Is this a bug
JG: The code fix seems to make sense
JN: Native checkboxes toggle on the keyup
JN: Change spacebar to space
MK: I requested review from sara and ..
MK: JG can you review
JG: Yes
MK: we need functional review and JS review
MK: Does this effect the regression test
MK: Are there regression test issues?
AF: I will look in to it
Rating slider issue
<Matt_King> github: https://
MK: There is a criticism that slider should not be used for ratings
JG: The issue is a disconnect between seeing something that looks like a slider and have a slider control
JN: What should it be?
MK: We all have opinions, use the role that looks like the thing
JN: There is not a rating thing
MK: Since there is not a rating role
JN: We should not having something that has half stars, if you want more there should be more stars
MK: JG where dod you find this?
JG: I have found one, they are not common
JN: I have not seen this
MK: Whether it supports or doesn't support half stars
MK: The half stars is the issue
JN: I agree
MK: We agree that half stars doesn't change whether slider is an appropriate role
MK: The next bullit is more relavent about no rail for drag
JN: I have to go
MK: Top of the hour
JG: It seems like we should get rid of the half stars
MK: The WCAG point is drag
MK: Since it is not obvious that it is draggable
MK: That and the fact that setting it to zero is not obvious, they might be ligitament
MK: I wondering a you can perceive whether you can drag, maybe there should ne something you can drag
JG: Are we creating an example that will not be used in real life.
MK: What are we demonstrating with this exampel that we are not doing with other examples
JG: APG should be provding more clarity than questions