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10:06:59 <McCool> scribenick: McCool
10:08:02 <McCool> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Architecture_WebConf
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10:09:23 <McCool> topic: minutes review sept 29 2022
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10:10:28 <McCool> ml: any objections to publish?
10:10:36 <McCool> ... none, will be published
10:10:39 <sebastian> q+
10:10:40 <mlagally> @Kaz, please publish https://www.w3.org/2022/09/29-wot-arch-minutes.html
10:11:04 <McCool> topic: discussion
10:11:28 <McCool> seb: if deferring profile to next charter, should we use profile slot for architecture?
10:11:45 <McCool> ml: good idea, let's talk about that later in the schedule
10:11:53 <McCool> topic: CR Publication
10:12:03 <McCool> ml: need to look at open issues
10:13:15 <McCool> subtopic: Issue 828
10:15:04 <McCool> ml: cleanup for publication
10:15:50 <McCool> mm: doubt there are any big issues since already cleaned up
10:16:02 <sebastian> brb
10:17:26 <McCool> ... already been done in publication/ver11/3-cr, but may want to update it
10:19:05 <McCool> ... but all issues from html tidy, link checker, and pubrules were resolved already
10:19:25 <McCool> ... can do a sanity check but don't expect any new problems
10:20:34 <McCool> subtopic: Issue 817
10:21:16 <ktoumura> present+ Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Kunihiko_Toumura
10:22:26 <McCool> mm: redundant/unnecessary assertions - suggest we do as part of the implementation report review
10:22:40 <McCool> ... e.g. we can see if any particular at-risk assertion is necessary
10:23:19 <sebastian> back
10:25:23 <McCool> ... although most of the current at-risk assertions are in security and privacy, and those have been reviewed for redundancy and cleaned up
10:26:52 <McCool> ... so I think we should close this issue and consider the review done
10:28:12 <McCool> ... no response to request for mtg with TAG, unfortunately
10:32:41 <McCool> ... anyway, we probably need a new issue to "document at-risk items" which would add a para to the sotd and at the start of the at-risk sections, which are security and privacy, basically (which we can't delete, so this statement has to say something about reversion to informative statements)
10:33:22 <McCool> ... however, it seems there are only a couple of assertions outside of S&P that are at-risk right now
10:33:54 <McCool> subtopic: Issue 816
10:34:22 <McCool> mm: this is for redundant assertions; the one called out in S&P was fixed, we reviewed and did not find others
10:35:37 <McCool> ml: follow up issues 852 and 851
10:36:47 <McCool> subtopic: issue 815
10:37:00 <McCool> ml: issue of document being long
10:37:09 <McCool> mm: not sure we have time for large changes
10:38:23 <McCool> mm: do feel it is editorial, and also the text is about use cases etc. which in the same issue is described as being needed
10:40:01 <McCool> ml: (comments on issue)
10:41:43 <McCool> ... will keep open
10:42:03 <McCool> subtopic: Issue 814
10:44:57 <McCool> mm: hard to answer what fraction of existing devices are compatible
10:46:37 <McCool> ... also there is an issue of anecodatal ecosystem discussion becoming obsolete
10:47:49 <McCool> ... so better to discuss in the explainer in my opinion
10:48:36 <McCool> seb: plugfest also has evidence, we for example have tested several commercial devices
10:49:22 <McCool> mm: those are still point tests, still hard to get a broad view
10:51:26 <sebastian> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Discovery_Categories_and_Tech_Landscape
10:53:25 <sebastian> http://w3c.github.io/wot/tech-landscape/
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10:57:05 <McCool_> topic: schedule
10:57:18 <McCool_> ml: seb's suggestion for profile, suggest a combined
10:58:30 <McCool_> mm: would be better to focus on arch in the short term, people may be more inclined to join if they know the mtg will be focused
10:58:50 <McCool_> ... once arch is in the can, then we can look again at profile
10:58:54 <mlagally> proposal: pause the profile work for the next 4 weeks, and after architecture CR has been done, we use both call slots for profile.
10:59:11 <McCool_> seb: so agree that we should temporarily pause profile until arch is in CR
10:59:15 <mlagally> proposal: temporarily pause the profile work for the next 4 weeks, and after architecture CR has been done, we use both call slots for profile.
11:00:15 <mlagally> proposal: temporarily pause the profile work until the CR has been done. After that we use both call slots for profile.
11:01:40 <mlagally> resolution: temporarily pause the profile work until the CR has been done. After that we use both call slots for profile.
11:02:41 <ktoumura> [adjourned]
11:02:50 <ktoumura> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:02:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/13-wot-arch-minutes.html ktoumura
11:03:07 <mlagally> thanks!!!
11:03:17 <ktoumura> rrsagent, make log public
11:04:16 <ktoumura> meeting: WoT Architecture
11:04:29 <ktoumura> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:04:29 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/13-wot-arch-minutes.html ktoumura
11:05:36 <ktoumura> chair: Lagally
11:06:02 <ktoumura> regrets+ Kaz
11:06:16 <ktoumura> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:06:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/13-wot-arch-minutes.html ktoumura
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