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13:54:50 <kaz> meeting: WoT Testfest - Day 5
13:55:44 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura
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14:05:08 <kaz> present+ Ege_Korkan, Michael_Lagally, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Tomoaki_Mizushima
14:05:44 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/PlugFest_WebConf#Agenda_07.10.2022
14:06:19 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
14:06:23 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:06:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/07-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
14:06:55 <kaz> chair: McCool
14:07:19 <sebastian> sebastian has joined #wot-pf
14:07:21 <kaz> scribenick: sebastian
14:08:08 <kaz> topic: PRs
14:08:18 <sebastian> MM: Let's skip the minutes to save time
14:08:27 <kaz> subtopic: PR 431
14:08:46 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/431 PR 431 - Oct 2022 - Update TD results to latest version of playground
14:09:28 <sebastian> MM: going to merge
14:09:32 <sebastian> done
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14:09:43 <kaz> subtopic: PR 432
14:10:04 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/432 PR 432 - [TD] Add text direction to mqtt example
14:10:40 <sebastian> PR is merged
14:11:15 <kaz> subtopic: PR 433
14:11:25 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/433 PR 433 - Manual test results for WoTWebThing #433
14:11:30 <kaz> s/ #433//
14:12:31 <sebastian> MM: PR updates readme, csv, and TDs files
14:12:48 <kaz> q?
14:12:52 <kaz> q+ mlagally
14:12:56 <kaz> ack m
14:12:56 <sebastian> ML: I had no time to validate the TDs
14:14:29 <sebastian> Ege: it seems that a curl bracket is missing
14:14:51 <sebastian> ML: I will fix the issue
14:15:11 <sebastian> subtopic: PR 434
14:15:57 <sebastian> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/434 -  Add Architecture implementation report for saywot!
14:16:04 <kaz> present+ Kunihiko_Toumura
14:16:06 <kaz> q?
14:16:08 <kaz> q+ Ege
14:16:10 <kaz> ack E
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14:16:34 <sebastian> Ege: waiting for Felix to get feedback
14:16:55 <sebastian> MM: going to merge, another PR can update the content
14:17:06 <sebastian> PR is merged
14:17:19 <kaz> subtopic: PR 435
14:17:30 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/435 PR 435 - Delete template.csv
14:18:08 <kaz> merged
14:18:12 <kaz> subtopic: PR 437
14:18:15 <sebastian> MM: file not used in testing
14:18:28 <sebastian> ... going to delete this
14:18:34 <kaz> s/merged/
14:18:41 <sebastian> merged
14:18:44 <kaz> s/subtopic: PR 437//
14:18:50 <kaz> subtopic: PR 437
14:18:54 <sebastian> :-)
14:19:00 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/437 PR 437 - Update TD editdor manual csv
14:19:13 <kaz> s/:-)//
14:19:26 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:19:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/07-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
14:19:38 <kaz> q+ Ege
14:23:30 <sebastian> MM: it seems not all asseration showing up in the csv file since the extracting tool missed some
14:23:38 <sebastian> ... we need to check
14:23:44 <kaz> ack e
14:23:48 <sebastian> s/file/files
14:24:29 <kaz> subtopic: PR 433 - revisited
14:24:47 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/433 PR 433 - Manual Profile test results for WoTWebThing
14:25:14 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/actions/runs/3203218232/jobs/5233048378 validation still fails
14:25:21 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:25:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/07-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
14:25:51 <sebastian> Ege: I need to check the log
14:26:48 <sebastian> MM: forms seems to be a object and not an array
14:26:57 <sebastian> ML: I will check it again
14:27:39 <sebastian> Ege: found the problem. There is an extra forms defined in the TD.
14:28:42 <sebastian> topic: Review Implementation Report
14:28:48 <kaz> subtopic: TD
14:29:24 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1706 wot-thing-description PR 1706 - Oct 2022 Testfest Updates to Implementation Report
14:29:42 <kaz> -> https://cdn.statically.io/gh/w3c/wot-thing-description/f4a3b83faea870fcfba1b89a55f56fc6dffefbe2/testing/report11.html latest draft Implementation Report
14:29:57 <sebastian> MM: it seems still the old assertations results are in there
14:30:07 <sebastian> ... I will check
14:30:19 <kaz> subtopic: Discovery
14:30:20 <sebastian> s/old/old manuel
14:30:45 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/421 wot-discovery PR 421 - Oct 2022 Testfest Updates to Implementation Report
14:31:19 <kaz> -> https://cdn.statically.io/gh/w3c/wot-discovery/daca95eefcb71a1cddda847eb1a824d3eb099e44/testing/report.html latest draft Implementation
14:32:50 <kaz> MM: to be finalized on Monday during the Discovery call
14:32:52 <kaz> subtopic: Profile
14:33:13 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/298 wot-profile PR 298 - Oct 2022 Testfest Updates to Implementation Report
14:33:36 <sebastian> MM: Discovery automatic tests passed. Few things have to be done such as manual inputs issues have to be fixed
14:34:04 <kaz> -> https://cdn.statically.io/gh/w3c/wot-profile/bc8ea7d704f4d7b3e187ec46f3f068c5311a03ff/testing/report.html latest draft Implementation Report
14:34:16 <kaz> s/MM: Discovery automatic tests passed. Few things have to be done such as manual inputs issues have to be fixed//
14:34:23 <kaz> i/to be fina/MM: Discovery automatic tests passed. Few things have to be done such as manual inputs issues have to be fixed/
14:35:06 <sebastian>  subtopic: PR 433 - revisited
14:35:19 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/433 PR 433 - Manual Profile test results for WoTWebThing
14:35:28 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:35:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/07-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
14:35:30 <kaz> q?
14:35:36 <sebastian> ML: fix the problem. PR can be merged
14:35:38 <sebastian> merged
14:36:38 <sebastian> subtopic: Profile
14:37:28 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/blob/main/data/input_2022/Profile/Results/webthings-gateway.csv Profile/Results/webthings-gateway.csv
14:37:31 <sebastian> <MM visit PR 430>
14:37:58 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/430 PR 430 - Assertions split for Consumer and Thing - Excel and CSV cersions
14:38:27 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:38:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/07-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
14:38:55 <sebastian> ML: the excel has colored markup, nicer to read
14:39:02 <kaz> s/PR 433 - revisited/PR 433 for Profile - revisited/
14:39:16 <sebastian> ... lets not merge
14:39:24 <sebastian> <MM closes PR>
14:39:36 <kaz> s/PR>/PR 430>/
14:39:42 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:39:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/07-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
14:41:12 <kaz> topic: Wrapup and next steps
14:41:13 <sebastian> MM: there is still an error in https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/blob/main/events/2022.09.Online/Profile/Results/wot-webthing.csv
14:41:51 <sebastian> s/topic: Wrapup and next steps/
14:41:52 <sebastian> topic: Wrapup and next steps
14:42:38 <Ege> q+
14:42:40 <sebastian> MM: I will generate the new reports based on the new inputs
14:43:13 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:43:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/07-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
14:43:22 <sebastian> Ege: I creaded a PR a to fix the 'span' problem
14:43:31 <sebastian> s/a/
14:44:08 <sebastian> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1716
14:44:24 <sebastian> Sebastian is ok to merge this PR
14:44:30 <kaz> s/1716/1716 wot-thing-description PR 1716 - Assertion span fix/
14:44:59 <kaz> q+
14:45:07 <sebastian> q+
14:45:33 <kaz> ack e
14:45:36 <kaz> ack k
14:46:03 <kaz> kaz: how to proceed?
14:46:37 <sebastian> MM: I'm going to clean up today
14:47:09 <sebastian> ... I will have new PRs begin of next week
14:47:51 <sebastian> ... in Discovery meeting will review the results and finalize the list of at risk items
14:48:16 <sebastian> ... same should be done for TD on Wednesday
14:48:43 <sebastian> ... and Architecture on Thursday
14:49:59 <sebastian> ... on Wednesday we should also decide on Profile
14:50:55 <sebastian> ML: proberly the specification is not mature enough. However, we should not slow down.
14:51:18 <sebastian> ... I think, it is ready in 1 or 2 months
14:51:45 <mlagally> q+
14:52:26 <sebastian> MM: we should also decide to publish the Profile as Note or keep as Working Draft
14:52:59 <sebastian> q-
14:54:33 <sebastian> ML: I believe before we go in CR another review of all specs would be good
14:54:43 <kaz> kaz: we need to see how many features from TD and Architecture to be identified as "features at risk" before CR publication, so there is a possibility we need to wait until Oct 19 to make the final resolution. If needed, we can make the resolution by email before 19th, though./
14:55:03 <kaz> [adjourned]
14:55:11 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:55:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/07-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
14:56:52 <kaz> i/Discovery automatic tests/scribenick: kaz/
14:56:59 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:56:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/07-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
14:57:54 <kaz> s/subtopic: Profile/subtopic: Profile Implementation Report - revisited/
14:58:13 <kaz> i/fix the problem/scribenick: sebastian/
14:58:15 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:58:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/07-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
15:00:30 <kaz> i/how to proceed?/scribenick: kaz/
15:00:43 <kaz> i/I'm going to clean/scribenick: sebastian/
15:00:53 <kaz> i/we need to see how many/scribenick: kaz/
15:01:12 <kaz> s/fix the problem./fixed the problem./
15:01:16 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:01:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/10/07-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz