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16:07:41 <PaulG> zakim, agenda?
16:07:41 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
16:07:42 <Zakim> 4. Other Business [from PaulG]
16:07:44 <trackbot> Meeting: Spoken Pronunciation Task Force Teleconference
16:07:44 <trackbot> Date: 28 September 2022
16:07:45 <Sarah_Wood> present+
16:07:47 <PaulG> zakim, clear agenda
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16:08:16 <PaulG> Agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
16:08:20 <PaulG> Agenda+ TPAC debrief
16:08:24 <PaulG> Agenda+ Next Steps
16:08:27 <PaulG> Agenda+ Other Business
16:08:38 <PaulG> zakim, next item
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16:08:52 <janina> agenda?
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16:12:01 <IrfanAli> janina: WHATWG asked to create a ticket to bring SSML as first class citizen into HTML
16:12:34 <IrfanAli> janina: if that is still the preferred direction, it is good idea to create a ticket
16:12:45 <PaulG> SSML as a first-class object was not rejected out of hand by WHATWG. They said we should create an issue.
16:13:43 <IrfanAli> mhakkinen: who made that statement from WHATWG?
16:14:25 <IrfanAli> janina: Simon Peters, Michael Smith, and Ana
16:19:22 <PaulG> p, s, sub, mark are the tags we know have conflict (possibly audio)
16:26:04 <PaulG> one possible solution is to namespace (e.g., ssml-*) all of the elements which means we already have a prototype imlpementation with custom elements.
16:26:28 <PaulG> another option is to rename the few conflict tags
16:26:35 <PaulG> by versioning SSML
16:27:34 <PaulG> zakim, next item
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16:27:50 <PaulG> we'll need someone to draft the issue to WHATWG
16:28:54 <PaulG> we'll need to address the conflicts with 1-n solutions and then vote on them as a group?
16:29:40 <PaulG> janina: APA should create the issue. Someone from pronunciation could draft and file/send to list
16:30:41 <PaulG> should we list potential solutions? Or just open the issue and wait for WHATWG to bring them up?
16:33:26 <PaulG> i18n seemed to be a handled issue by the list (RFC here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5646)
16:33:43 <PaulG> iANA list here: https://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry/language-subtag-registry
16:33:59 <PaulG> often used by (maybe we should consult librarians) https://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry/language-subtag-registry
16:35:50 <PaulG> another item we should address, the growing list metadata that we feel we need
16:37:24 <PaulG> and a possible mechanism for user opt-in
16:38:19 <PaulG> make sure we can merge ELM with SSML
16:40:51 <janina> https://www.w3.org/2022/09/15-apa-minutes.html#t12
16:41:13 <PaulG> without EML prototypes do we know it's solving a problem?
16:41:19 <Sarah_Wood> Was it named Mary Open source TTS Systems? Not sure
16:44:13 <PaulG> That might have been the one Debbie mentioned
16:46:00 <PaulG> https://schema.org/speakable
16:47:10 <mhakkinen> https://developers.google.com/search/docs/appearance/structured-data/speakable
16:51:09 <PaulG> zakim, next item
16:51:09 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Other Business -- taken up [from PaulG]
16:56:15 <PaulG> zakim, close this item
16:56:15 <Zakim> agendum 4 closed
16:56:16 <Zakim> I see nothing remaining on the agenda
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