W3C

– DRAFT –
Publishing Community Group

07 September 2022

Attendees

Present
Bill_Kasdorf, GeorgeK, pbelfanti, sue-neu, tzviya
Regrets
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Chair
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Scribe
CharlesL, wolfgang, zheng_xu

Meeting minutes

pbelfanti: introducing the purpose of this TF, and question

<pbelfanti> The purpose of the PCG Education Task Force is to answer the question: “What does Education want from the Web?” What limitations currently exist that may be presenting obstacles to educators, educational publishers, EdTech companies, et al, in delivering content or services efficiently and at high quality? What new capabilities could lead to improved learning experiences, or enable innovative new products and services? The mem[CUT]

<pbelfanti> will be forwarded to the appropriate W3C working group for consideration in a future standard update.

<tzviya> The purpose of the PCG Education Task Force is to answer the question: “What does Education want from the Web?”

<tzviya> What limitations currently exist that may be presenting obstacles to educators, educational publishers, EdTech companies, et al, in delivering content or services efficiently and at high quality? What new capabilities could lead to improved learning experiences, or enable innovative new products and services?

<tzviya> The members of the Education Task Force will survey stakeholders in the education space and develop use cases around their pain points and aspirations. In turn, the use cases will be presented to the Publishing Community Group for review and evaluation. Use cases that have the highest impact potential will be forwarded to the appropriate W3C working group for consideration in a future standard update.

rickj: define scope?

Bill_Kasdorf: suggesting CG to incubate ideas and use cases before moving on to WG

Bill_Kasdorf: suggest not only in a small group such as publisher
… there is also some cross work related to other group
… also the scope might include corporate training but will leave to the group

tzviya: there is also an import factor is web. Recommend start writing use cases then we can see pattern

yes

JF: also define users for user cases

zheng_xu is scribing

sue-neu: we need to define who the users are and pain points

<JF> suggest "User Profile" as a starting point. Consumer/Producer. K-12/HigherEd. Mainstream/users with disabilities

pbelfanti: we need to talk to a large group of users

<JF> +1 to Paul

rickj: how to segment? Maybe can define segment regarding users?
… also need to consider group of adoption

zheng_xu: we have label for each use case on github

<Bill_Kasdorf> annotations is my favorite example of a very useful spec that is rarely used

GeorgeK: some of items might related to best practice

CharlesL: might want to consider early childhood as a segment

GeorgeK: also a11y

zheng_xu: We could accomplish this with GitHub Labels for Early Childhood etc.

PCG use case template on Github:

https://github.com/w3c/publishingcg

you may send an e-mail or any other doc format, but you might create your use case just in Github
… only a few members can assign labels, but just let us know - we might do it for you
… Zheng gives a live demo in Github how to write a new use case
… important to define the role as precisely and specifically as possible!
… e.g. As a use case writer I would like to know how to write down a use case
… A pain point might be that I write down a long description but no one can pick up the problem so the discussion spreads/fails.
… audience: people who read and write use cases.
… might add a proposal

<Bill_Kasdorf> I would suggest distilling this to: I am a [party] and I need [issue] in order to [result].

*remember: it's a use case and not a sketch for a technical solution!

pbelfanti: a label Ed TF = Education Task Force would be helpful

George: suggested labels, e.g. Ed TF, K12, teacher, etc.

Zheng: good idea, but we should not create redundant labels

CharlesL: recommendation of template, just heading and plain text is good enough

GeorgeK: can we have different template

GeorgeK: different templates for different groups? Is that doable? How to select a template?

Zheng: only one template available, but we can create several ones.

pbelfanti: action items, scope, provide some use case template (Charles)
… meeting frequency?

pbelfanti: Action Items: work on purpose statement, segmentation, use case template (CharlesL)
… bi-weekly or monthly?

+1 to bi-weekly

Bill: bi-weekly better

pbelfanti: bi-weekly!

<Bill_Kasdorf> I vote for Google Doc

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