IRC log of wot-arch on 2022-09-01

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10:05:31 [kaz]
meeting: WoT Architecture
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present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_Lagally, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_McCool
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10:09:46 [McCool]
topic: minutes
10:10:01 [McCool]
ml: review minutes of 4 aug
10:10:15 [kaz]
i|review|-> https://www.w3.org/2022/08/04-wot-arch-minutes.html Aug-4|
10:10:27 [kaz]
regrets+ Sebastian, Ege, Mizushima
10:12:33 [McCool]
mm: wonder if using tag-needs-resolution label is a good idea, hard to remove, but ok
10:14:15 [McCool]
ml: can we publish the minutes? Any objections?
10:17:54 [kaz]
topic: Publication
10:18:01 [kaz]
subtopic: PR 823
10:18:15 [kaz]
-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/823 PR 823 - WIP: Add change log from FPWD 1.1 to 2-WD
10:18:39 [McCool]
ml: some minor issues, but I think we should just merge it
10:18:56 [kaz]
q+
10:19:19 [McCool]
mm: ok
10:19:26 [kaz]
ack k
10:19:32 [McCool]
kaz: now that we have the change log, shall I publish the updated draft?
10:19:38 [McCool]
ml: yes, let's
10:20:08 [McCool]
topic: tag-needs-resolution issues
10:20:27 [McCool]
subtopic: issue 818
10:20:33 [McCool]
ml: should arch be a note
10:21:08 [McCool]
ml: mozilla previously asked this, now raising
10:21:40 [kaz]
i|should arch|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/818 Issue 818 - Consider whether this makes more sense as a Note [TAG feedback] |
10:21:46 [kaz]
s/a note/a note?/
10:22:25 [McCool]
mm: bottom line is we need a place for global assertions, like security
10:23:15 [kaz]
q+
10:26:54 [kaz]
ack k
10:26:58 [McCool]
ack k
10:27:18 [McCool]
mm: but charter does not set security as a normative document
10:32:32 [McCool]
mm: related to other issues that are "extra"; if we remove unessential assertions, then restructuring later will be easier
10:32:53 [McCool]
kaz: agree
10:34:30 [McCool]
mm: before we can change from normative to informative, need to identify essential assertions first
10:35:10 [kaz]
q?
10:35:16 [McCool]
ml: issue 816
10:35:54 [McCool]
mm: regarding redundant assertions, I think we fixed the one they called out already
10:36:03 [McCool]
... but there may be others
10:40:18 [McCool]
mm: suggest updating comment to say that we are open to discussing this further
10:40:34 [McCool]
kaz: also suggest we reach out to TAG and request a meeting
10:45:56 [kaz]
q?
10:45:59 [kaz]
q+
10:48:10 [kaz]
ack k
10:48:25 [McCool]
subtopic: issue 814
10:48:39 [McCool]
ml: compatibility story - added some comments
10:48:53 [McCool]
mm: need to explain what protocols work, gateways, etc.
10:49:15 [kaz]
s/ml: issue 816/subtopic: issue 816/
10:49:35 [kaz]
i|regarding redundant|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/816 Issue 816 - Review for redundant normative statements [TAG feedback]|
10:50:12 [kaz]
i|compatibility|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/814 Issue 814 - Compatibility in the ecosystem [TAG feedback]|
10:51:43 [McCool]
subtopic: issue 811
10:52:40 [McCool]
mm: add comment that we plan to update the Guidelines document this fall, but because it is informative essential assertions need to be in a normative document. We can update the reference so it is informative
10:55:44 [McCool]
subtopic: issue 809
10:55:58 [McCool]
ml: informative/normative refs again, should be relatively easy to fix
11:01:53 [kaz]
i|add comment|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/811 Issue 811 - Improve security section to address TAG feedback|
11:02:33 [kaz]
i|informative/n|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/809 Issue 809 - Fix normative references / convert to informative, where applicable|
11:02:46 [McCool]
topic: implementation report
11:03:06 [McCool]
mm: updated, but more work to do
11:03:17 [McCool]
topic: WIP security assertion issue
11:03:22 [McCool]
ml: issue 823
11:03:43 [McCool]
mm: issue mentions what we have to deal with, but I still need to implement a PR
11:04:32 [kaz]
s/823/824/
11:05:10 [kaz]
s|issue mentions|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/824 Issue 824 - WIP: Adjust policy-like security and privacy assertions|
11:05:12 [kaz]
[adjourned]
11:05:17 [kaz]
rrsagent, make log public
11:05:22 [kaz]
rrsagent, draft minutes
11:05:22 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/09/01-wot-arch-minutes.html kaz
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