IRC log of wot-arch on 2022-09-01
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- 10:05:31 [kaz]
- meeting: WoT Architecture
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- present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_Lagally, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_McCool
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- 10:09:27 [McCool]
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- topic: minutes
- 10:10:01 [McCool]
- ml: review minutes of 4 aug
- 10:10:15 [kaz]
- i|review|-> https://www.w3.org/2022/08/04-wot-arch-minutes.html Aug-4|
- 10:10:27 [kaz]
- regrets+ Sebastian, Ege, Mizushima
- 10:12:33 [McCool]
- mm: wonder if using tag-needs-resolution label is a good idea, hard to remove, but ok
- 10:14:15 [McCool]
- ml: can we publish the minutes? Any objections?
- 10:17:54 [kaz]
- topic: Publication
- 10:18:01 [kaz]
- subtopic: PR 823
- 10:18:15 [kaz]
- -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/823 PR 823 - WIP: Add change log from FPWD 1.1 to 2-WD
- 10:18:39 [McCool]
- ml: some minor issues, but I think we should just merge it
- 10:18:56 [kaz]
- q+
- 10:19:19 [McCool]
- mm: ok
- 10:19:26 [kaz]
- ack k
- 10:19:32 [McCool]
- kaz: now that we have the change log, shall I publish the updated draft?
- 10:19:38 [McCool]
- ml: yes, let's
- 10:20:08 [McCool]
- topic: tag-needs-resolution issues
- 10:20:27 [McCool]
- subtopic: issue 818
- 10:20:33 [McCool]
- ml: should arch be a note
- 10:21:08 [McCool]
- ml: mozilla previously asked this, now raising
- 10:21:40 [kaz]
- i|should arch|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/818 Issue 818 - Consider whether this makes more sense as a Note [TAG feedback] |
- 10:21:46 [kaz]
- s/a note/a note?/
- 10:22:25 [McCool]
- mm: bottom line is we need a place for global assertions, like security
- 10:23:15 [kaz]
- q+
- 10:26:54 [kaz]
- ack k
- 10:26:58 [McCool]
- ack k
- 10:27:18 [McCool]
- mm: but charter does not set security as a normative document
- 10:32:32 [McCool]
- mm: related to other issues that are "extra"; if we remove unessential assertions, then restructuring later will be easier
- 10:32:53 [McCool]
- kaz: agree
- 10:34:30 [McCool]
- mm: before we can change from normative to informative, need to identify essential assertions first
- 10:35:10 [kaz]
- q?
- 10:35:16 [McCool]
- ml: issue 816
- 10:35:54 [McCool]
- mm: regarding redundant assertions, I think we fixed the one they called out already
- 10:36:03 [McCool]
- ... but there may be others
- 10:40:18 [McCool]
- mm: suggest updating comment to say that we are open to discussing this further
- 10:40:34 [McCool]
- kaz: also suggest we reach out to TAG and request a meeting
- 10:45:56 [kaz]
- q?
- 10:45:59 [kaz]
- q+
- 10:48:10 [kaz]
- ack k
- 10:48:25 [McCool]
- subtopic: issue 814
- 10:48:39 [McCool]
- ml: compatibility story - added some comments
- 10:48:53 [McCool]
- mm: need to explain what protocols work, gateways, etc.
- 10:49:15 [kaz]
- s/ml: issue 816/subtopic: issue 816/
- 10:49:35 [kaz]
- i|regarding redundant|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/816 Issue 816 - Review for redundant normative statements [TAG feedback]|
- 10:50:12 [kaz]
- i|compatibility|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/814 Issue 814 - Compatibility in the ecosystem [TAG feedback]|
- 10:51:43 [McCool]
- subtopic: issue 811
- 10:52:40 [McCool]
- mm: add comment that we plan to update the Guidelines document this fall, but because it is informative essential assertions need to be in a normative document. We can update the reference so it is informative
- 10:55:44 [McCool]
- subtopic: issue 809
- 10:55:58 [McCool]
- ml: informative/normative refs again, should be relatively easy to fix
- 11:01:53 [kaz]
- i|add comment|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/811 Issue 811 - Improve security section to address TAG feedback|
- 11:02:33 [kaz]
- i|informative/n|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/809 Issue 809 - Fix normative references / convert to informative, where applicable|
- 11:02:46 [McCool]
- topic: implementation report
- 11:03:06 [McCool]
- mm: updated, but more work to do
- 11:03:17 [McCool]
- topic: WIP security assertion issue
- 11:03:22 [McCool]
- ml: issue 823
- 11:03:43 [McCool]
- mm: issue mentions what we have to deal with, but I still need to implement a PR
- 11:04:32 [kaz]
- s/823/824/
- 11:05:10 [kaz]
- s|issue mentions|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/824 Issue 824 - WIP: Adjust policy-like security and privacy assertions|
- 11:05:12 [kaz]
- [adjourned]
- 11:05:17 [kaz]
- rrsagent, make log public
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/09/01-wot-arch-minutes.html kaz
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