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10:05:31 <kaz> meeting: WoT Architecture
10:05:53 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_Lagally, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_McCool
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10:09:46 <McCool> topic: minutes
10:10:01 <McCool> ml: review minutes of 4 aug
10:10:15 <kaz> i|review|-> https://www.w3.org/2022/08/04-wot-arch-minutes.html Aug-4|
10:10:27 <kaz> regrets+ Sebastian, Ege, Mizushima
10:12:33 <McCool> mm: wonder if using tag-needs-resolution label is a good idea, hard to remove, but ok
10:14:15 <McCool> ml: can we publish the minutes?  Any objections?
10:17:54 <kaz> topic: Publication
10:18:01 <kaz> subtopic: PR 823
10:18:15 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/823 PR 823 - WIP: Add change log from FPWD 1.1 to 2-WD
10:18:39 <McCool> ml: some minor issues, but I think we should just merge it
10:18:56 <kaz> q+
10:19:19 <McCool> mm: ok
10:19:26 <kaz> ack k
10:19:32 <McCool> kaz: now that we have the change log, shall I publish the updated draft?
10:19:38 <McCool> ml: yes, let's
10:20:08 <McCool> topic: tag-needs-resolution issues
10:20:27 <McCool> subtopic: issue 818
10:20:33 <McCool> ml: should arch be a note
10:21:08 <McCool> ml: mozilla previously asked this, now raising
10:21:40 <kaz> i|should arch|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/818 Issue 818 - Consider whether this makes more sense as a Note [TAG feedback] |
10:21:46 <kaz> s/a note/a note?/
10:22:25 <McCool> mm: bottom line is we need a place for global assertions, like security
10:23:15 <kaz> q+
10:26:54 <kaz> ack k
10:26:58 <McCool> ack k
10:27:18 <McCool> mm: but charter does not set security as a normative document
10:32:32 <McCool> mm: related to other issues that are "extra"; if we remove unessential assertions, then restructuring later will be easier
10:32:53 <McCool> kaz: agree
10:34:30 <McCool> mm: before we can change from normative to informative, need to identify essential assertions first
10:35:10 <kaz> q?
10:35:16 <McCool> ml: issue 816
10:35:54 <McCool> mm: regarding redundant assertions, I think we fixed the one they called out already
10:36:03 <McCool> ... but there may be others
10:40:18 <McCool> mm: suggest updating comment to say that we are open to discussing this further
10:40:34 <McCool> kaz: also suggest we reach out to TAG and request a meeting
10:45:56 <kaz> q?
10:45:59 <kaz> q+
10:48:10 <kaz> ack k
10:48:25 <McCool> subtopic: issue 814
10:48:39 <McCool> ml: compatibility story - added some comments
10:48:53 <McCool> mm: need to explain what protocols work, gateways, etc.
10:49:15 <kaz> s/ml: issue 816/subtopic: issue 816/
10:49:35 <kaz> i|regarding redundant|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/816 Issue 816 - Review for redundant normative statements [TAG feedback]|
10:50:12 <kaz> i|compatibility|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/814 Issue 814 - Compatibility in the ecosystem [TAG feedback]|
10:51:43 <McCool> subtopic: issue 811
10:52:40 <McCool> mm: add comment that we plan to update the Guidelines document this fall, but because it is informative essential assertions need to be in a normative document.  We can update the reference so it is informative
10:55:44 <McCool> subtopic: issue 809
10:55:58 <McCool> ml: informative/normative refs again, should be relatively easy to fix
11:01:53 <kaz> i|add comment|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/811 Issue 811 - Improve security section to address TAG feedback|
11:02:33 <kaz> i|informative/n|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/809 Issue 809 - Fix normative references / convert to informative, where applicable|
11:02:46 <McCool> topic: implementation report
11:03:06 <McCool> mm: updated, but more work to do
11:03:17 <McCool> topic: WIP security assertion issue
11:03:22 <McCool> ml: issue 823
11:03:43 <McCool> mm: issue mentions what we have to deal with, but I still need to implement a PR
11:04:32 <kaz> s/823/824/
11:05:10 <kaz> s|issue mentions|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/824 Issue 824 - WIP: Adjust policy-like security and privacy assertions|
11:05:12 <kaz> [adjourned]
11:05:17 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
11:05:22 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:05:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/09/01-wot-arch-minutes.html kaz
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