IRC log of hcls on 2022-09-01

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Meeting: FHIR RDF
14:57:28 [dbooth]
Chair: David Booth
15:07:55 [dbooth]
Topic: Merging updated rdf.html
15:11:59 [dbooth]
dbooth: Sent edited rdf.html page to Rob to merge.
15:12:10 [dbooth]
rob: Running the build now to check it.
15:13:53 [dbooth]
rob: Do we want a "TODO" left on the page?
15:17:46 [dbooth]
eric: Could change that to point to someplace on github.
15:20:41 [ericP]
https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/blob/gh-pages/scripts/download_fhir_spec
15:20:53 [ericP]
https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/blob/gh-pages/scripts/flattenLists
15:24:51 [dbooth]
dbooth: Forgot to bold some parts of hte example
15:27:19 [dbooth]
rob: https://loinc.org/rdf / is rendering with a space.
15:27:39 [dbooth]
... and the hand and smiley icons need to be bigger.
15:29:15 [ericP]
https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/tree/gh-pages/scripts/flattenFhirLists
15:29:48 [dbooth]
dbooth: Need to fix: <code class="rdf" style="font-size=larger"><span>👋🏾</span></code><
15:30:18 [dbooth]
eric: Dir for the list conversion: https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/blob/gh-pages/scripts/flattenLists
15:32:06 [dbooth]
agenda+ I18N tests
15:33:32 [dbooth]
rob: It is failing on: Error: Exception inserting section numbers in rdf.html: Malformed XHTML: Found "</p>" expecting "</br>" at line 167 column 10
15:35:14 [dbooth]
gaurav: In the doc, we use the SNOMED id prefix, but for SNOMED compositional we're supposed to use a different prefix..
15:37:21 [dbooth]
eric: Could note that the IRI stem for compositional grammer is wrong.
15:42:28 [dbooth]
houcemeddine: Propose removing the row
15:46:23 [dbooth]
gaurav: My comment that I needed to look up that SNOMED CT suggests using “http://snomed.info/scg/” as the IRI stem for SNOMED compositional grammars, e.g. http://snomed.info/scg/404684003%3A47429007%3D79654002 -- this is as per https://confluence.ihtsdotools.org/display/SLPG/SNOMED+CT+URI+Standard. I know we decided to continue to use “http://snomed.info/id/” since FHIR doesn't distinguish between compositional and non-compositional IDs.
15:47:23 [dbooth]
AGREED: Remove the SNOMED compositional row from the examples and add a note saying what the correct IRI stem should be for the compositional grammar.
15:47:42 [dbooth]
houcemeddine: https://confluence.ihtsdotools.org/display/SLPG/SNOMED+CT+URI+Standard
15:48:35 [dbooth]
topic: Updating the build process
15:48:46 [dbooth]
gaurav: Jim is looking at the code, but it's complicated.
15:50:04 [dbooth]
... He found 3 versions of the RDF parser.
15:50:11 [dbooth]
gaurav: r5: https://github.com/hapifhir/org.hl7.fhir.core/blob/master/org.hl7.fhir.r5/src/main/java/org/hl7/fhir/r5/formats/RdfParser.java
15:50:11 [dbooth]
and
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r4: https://github.com/hapifhir/org.hl7.fhir.core/blob/master/org.hl7.fhir.r4/src/main/java/org/hl7/fhir/r4/formats/RdfParser.java
15:50:11 [dbooth]
There is also 4b:
15:50:11 [dbooth]
https://github.com/hapifhir/org.hl7.fhir.core/blob/master/org.hl7.fhir.r4b/src/main/java/org/hl7/fhir/r4b/formats/RdfParser.java
15:51:06 [dbooth]
gaurav: Need to change the parser and the kindling.
15:51:30 [dbooth]
rob: Needs to be done by Sunday to get it into the ballot, or during ballot reconciliation.
15:52:36 [dbooth]
rob: Shouldn't do major changes during ballot reconciliation, but need to file a comment to start the process.
15:54:09 [dbooth]
Topic: I18N examples
15:55:54 [dbooth]
gaurav: Grahame said in zulip: Grahame Grieve: ok I'm ok with adding IRIs as stems. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a need to add IRIs at the concept level (ICD-11)
15:55:54 [dbooth]
Grahame Grieve: I'm not a fan of allowing non-ascii characters. I don't think that's the only difference between URI and IRI
15:55:54 [dbooth]
Grahame Grieve: but I'm not clear what data type would be used for IRIs either. I don't think they're OK in the definitional framework right now
15:56:03 [dbooth]
https://chat.fhir.org/#narrow/stream/179280-fhir.2Finfrastructure-wg/topic/Adding.20IRIs.20as.20an.20identifier.20type.20to.20the.20FHIR.20specification
15:56:22 [dbooth]
gaurav: But you can already put non-ascii in fhir strings.
15:58:01 [dbooth]
gaurav: I think he's assuming that the IRI stems would already be converted to URIs before putting them into the terminology repo.
16:02:00 [dbooth]
eric: The issue is that if they're pre-converted to URIs, then the issue is you don't know how many times they've been encoded.
16:02:55 [dbooth]
dbooth: I think we should stick to our guns and say "these are IRIs -- not URIs".
16:04:19 [ericP]
https://www.w3.org/2008/Talks/31-ASPE/xRIs.svg
16:06:55 [dbooth]
ACTION: DBooth, Eric and Gaurav to craft a response to Grahame
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ADJOURNED
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Present: Houcemeddine Turki, Rob Hausam, Gaurav Vaidya, David Booth, EricP
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