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13:52:46 <trackbot> Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
13:52:46 <trackbot> Date: 24 August 2022
13:52:52 <Matthew_Atkinson> zakim, clear the agenda
13:52:52 <Zakim> agenda cleared
13:53:36 <Matthew_Atkinson> Chair:  Matthew_Atkinson
13:53:39 <Matthew_Atkinson> present+
13:53:43 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
13:53:45 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda+ New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
13:53:48 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda+ A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
13:53:51 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
13:53:53 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda+ Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
13:53:56 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda+ APA Review of Draft AGWG Charter https://raw.githack.com/w3c/wcag/charter-2022/charter.html
13:53:58 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda+ TPAC22 https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022
13:54:01 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
13:54:03 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda+ Task Force & Deliverables Updates
13:54:05 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda+ Other Business
13:54:08 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda+ be done
13:54:10 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda?
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14:00:13 <Fredrik> present+
14:00:48 <Joshue108> present+
14:02:28 <Roy> present+
14:03:41 <alii> present+
14:03:50 <alii> scribe: Irfan Ali
14:03:54 <alii> zakim, next item
14:03:54 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from Matthew_Atkinson]
14:03:57 <janina> present+
14:04:01 <Matthew_Atkinson> subtopic: CSS CfC
14:04:42 <alii> Matthew_Atkinson: call for consensus in progress
14:04:51 <Matthew_Atkinson> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2022Aug/0021.html
14:05:07 <alii> Matthew_Atkinson: it is only open until end of the day. please vote
14:05:25 <Matthew_Atkinson> subtopic: WCAG CfC
14:05:42 <Matthew_Atkinson> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2022Aug/0023.html
14:06:01 <alii> Matthew_Atkinson: we have 2.2 CI horizontal review, CFC. this one will also open until end of the day.
14:07:20 <alii> janina: I will take a second look on the  content.
14:08:29 <alii> janina: we may need to re-run for the CFC if we need to make any content change
14:10:06 <Matthew_Atkinson> subtopic: Adapt CR
14:10:46 <alii> Matthew_Atkinson: Janina can go in the details about the process.
14:11:21 <Roy> q+
14:11:42 <alii> Matthew_Atkinson: we have a compliment section in specs of dos and donts. we have a CFC for the people to adapt the changes.
14:12:22 <Matthew_Atkinson> s/a compliment section/a conformance section/
14:12:31 <alii> janina: this requires documents consensus. I expect that pull requests will be merged soon so that we can send a CFC
14:13:24 <Roy> https://w3c.github.io/adapt/content/#conformance
14:13:48 <alii> Roy: I have reviewed two pull requests and merged it already.
14:14:06 <alii> Roy: janina can use the conformance section to review
14:14:45 <alii> Roy: there is a link in the implementation report. I will fix all of the issues and merge it into the pull request
14:15:07 <alii> zakim, next item
14:15:08 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, alii
14:15:14 <Roy> ack me
14:15:15 <alii> ack roy
14:15:23 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda?
14:15:57 <alii> zakim, next item
14:15:57 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22 -- taken up [from Matthew_Atkinson]
14:16:04 <alii> zakim, close this item
14:16:04 <Zakim> agendum 2 closed
14:16:06 <Zakim> I see 9 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:16:06 <Zakim> 3. A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review [from Matthew_Atkinson]
14:16:07 <alii> zakim, next item
14:16:07 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review -- taken up [from Matthew_Atkinson]
14:16:10 <alii> zakim, close this item
14:16:10 <Zakim> agendum 3 closed
14:16:11 <Zakim> I see 8 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:16:11 <Zakim> 4. new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html [from Matthew_Atkinson]
14:16:14 <alii> zakim, next item
14:16:14 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html -- taken up [from Matthew_Atkinson]
14:16:22 <alii> zakim, close this item
14:16:22 <Zakim> agendum 4 closed
14:16:23 <Zakim> I see 7 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:16:23 <Zakim> 5. Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned [from Matthew_Atkinson]
14:16:24 <alii> zakim, next item
14:16:25 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned -- taken up [from Matthew_Atkinson]
14:16:28 <alii> zakim, close this item
14:16:28 <Zakim> agendum 5 closed
14:16:29 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:16:29 <Zakim> 6. APA Review of Draft AGWG Charter https://raw.githack.com/w3c/wcag/charter-2022/charter.html [from Matthew_Atkinson]
14:16:31 <alii> zakim, next item
14:16:31 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- APA Review of Draft AGWG Charter https://raw.githack.com/w3c/wcag/charter-2022/charter.html -- taken up [from Matthew_Atkinson]
14:17:03 <alii> Matthew_Atkinson: we need to address this. we mentioned about it last week. we want to get feedback form the people
14:17:14 <alii> Matthew_Atkinson: this is about formatting on all charters
14:17:30 <janina> q?
14:17:53 <alii> Matthew_Atkinson: thats going to be addressed separately. should concentrate if we have any question on the content. if anyone has any questions/concerns on this proposed charter, please let us know
14:18:07 <alii> janina: we should give a chance people to read it
14:21:56 <Matthew_Atkinson> q?
14:22:06 <alii> ack janina
14:22:52 <alii> janina: there was an assumption built to the charter. it assumes that 2.2 went to the CR which becomes the w3 recommendations
14:24:03 <alii> janina: it talks about working on 3.0 which seems it all about. we are only 2 weeks away from TPAC and we still do not have CR ready.
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14:24:41 <mike_beganyi> present+
14:27:11 <alii> janina: publishing 2.2 in CR doesn't mean we are done.
14:28:35 <alii> janina: I think we should split the advisory group into two part. one can work on 2.2 and other can focus on 3.0
14:30:31 <Matthew_Atkinson> q?
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14:31:59 <alii> Matthew_Atkinson: wonder if we are section 4 success criteria
14:32:21 <alii> Matthew_Atkinson: this section doesn't make any sense in reality
14:33:35 <alii> s/wonder if we are section/wonder if we are practicing section/
14:35:13 <alii> janina: APA agrees that WCAG is important and 2.2 and 3.0 should be published soon
14:37:08 <alii> we want to see 2.2. and 3.0 move forward
14:39:20 <Matthew_Atkinson> s/should be published soon/should be allowed to continue unimpeded/
14:39:25 <Matthew_Atkinson> rrsagent, make minutes
14:39:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/08/24-apa-minutes.html Matthew_Atkinson
14:39:27 <janina> q+DRAFT RESOLUTION: APA confirms it considers both WCAG 2.2 and WCAG 3 important for accessibility and wishes to say each of them proceed unimpeded.
14:40:11 <alii> DRAFT RESOLUTION: APA confirms it considers both WCAG 2.2 and WCAG 3 important for accessibility and wishes to say each of them proceed unimpeded.
14:40:14 <janina> +1
14:40:17 <alii> +1
14:40:19 <mike_beganyi> +1
14:40:19 <Matthew_Atkinson> +1
14:40:20 <Fredrik> +1
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14:42:55 <alii> janina: W3 policy requires disclosure on intellectual properly and that has to happen during CR.
14:43:22 <alii> janina: advisory committee takes 30 days to approve the proposed recommendations.
14:44:28 <alii> Matthew_Atkinson: do you think there ar any other option to extended existing charter or rewrite it.
14:44:36 <alii> janina: there should be two groups
14:45:03 <alii> janina: they could take the charter from 2018 and change the date.
14:45:24 <alii> Matthew_Atkinson: extend the current charter or split the group?
14:46:30 <alii> janina: lets assume one year extension. at that point if it still has not happened, what are we going to do?
14:48:06 <alii> agenda?
14:49:27 <alii> Matthew_Atkinson: another option is not going for 2.2
14:49:45 <Matthew_Atkinson> s/another option/another option (arising from group discussion)/
14:49:48 <Matthew_Atkinson> rrsagent, make minutes
14:49:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/08/24-apa-minutes.html Matthew_Atkinson
14:50:05 <alii> zakim, next item
14:50:05 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- TPAC22 https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022 -- taken up [from Matthew_Atkinson]
14:50:42 <alii> zakim, previous item
14:50:42 <Zakim> I don't understand 'previous item', alii
14:50:53 <alii> zakim, take up item 6
14:50:53 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- APA Review of Draft AGWG Charter https://raw.githack.com/w3c/wcag/charter-2022/charter.html -- taken up [from Matthew_Atkinson]
14:51:12 <janina> +1 to current draft charter not meaningful
14:51:15 <alii> Matthew_Atkinson: who agrees that current charter is not meaningful?
14:51:17 <alii> +1
14:51:21 <janina> +1
14:51:21 <mike_beganyi> +1
14:51:28 <Fredrik> +1
14:51:32 <Matthew_Atkinson> +1
14:51:53 <alii> Matthew_Atkinson: where do you think we should go with this?
14:52:41 <janina> DRAFT RESOLUTION: Current draft charter on github is not meaningful path forward
14:53:03 <janina> +1
14:53:06 <alii> +1
14:53:07 <Matthew_Atkinson> +1
14:53:09 <mike_beganyi> +1
14:53:13 <Fredrik> +1
14:53:31 <alii> RESOLUTION: Current draft charter on github is not meaningful path forward
14:53:44 <alii> RESOLUTION: APA confirms it considers both WCAG 2.2 and WCAG 3 important for accessibility and wishes to say each of them proceed unimpeded.
14:53:57 <Matthew_Atkinson> rrsagent, make minutes
14:53:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/08/24-apa-minutes.html Matthew_Atkinson
14:53:59 <janina> rrsagent, make minutes
14:53:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/08/24-apa-minutes.html janina
14:54:33 <alii> zakim, take up item 7
14:54:33 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- TPAC22 https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022 -- taken up [from Matthew_Atkinson]
14:54:54 <alii> Matthew_Atkinson: we have scheduled 7 meetings and expecting more to follow
14:56:11 <Matthew_Atkinson> https://www.w3.org/2022/09/TPAC/venue.html
14:56:20 <Matthew_Atkinson> rrsagent, make minutes
14:56:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/08/24-apa-minutes.html Matthew_Atkinson
14:56:30 <alii> rrsagent, make minutes
14:56:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/08/24-apa-minutes.html alii
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19:27:46 <janina> janina has changed the topic to: APA Weekly Teleconference; Wednesday 31 August
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