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09:55:25 <kaz> meeting: WoT Architecture
09:56:23 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Architecture_WebConf#Architecture_Aug_4th.2C_2022
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10:06:35 <kaz> scribenick: kaz
10:06:38 <kaz> topic: Minutes
10:06:49 <kaz> s/Minutes/Agenda/
10:07:00 <kaz> <Lagally goes through the agenda>
10:07:20 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Architecture_WebConf#Architecture_Aug_4th.2C_2022 agenda
10:08:32 <kaz> topic: Quick updates
10:08:45 <kaz> @@@ 258 for profile
10:08:57 <kaz> topic: Minutes
10:09:33 <kaz> i/258/Lagally has created a Profile issue based on yesterday's discussion.)
10:09:56 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2022/07/21-wot-arch-minutes.html July-21
10:10:55 <kaz> mm: note that for publication preparation, we need to update the index.html file instead of editing the Overview.html file directory, because Overview.html will be overwritten by ReSpec
10:11:19 <kaz> ... Kaz, please make sure it with Toumura-san
10:11:19 <kaz> kaz: ok
10:11:32 <kaz> (minutes approved)
10:11:39 <kaz> topic: Call time
10:12:08 <kaz> ml: generated to a new Doodle to see a possible consolidated slot for Profile and Architecture
10:12:34 <kaz> -> https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/eEl32VKd Doodle poll
10:12:42 <kaz> topic: Issues to close
10:12:54 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/labels/close Issues to close
10:13:09 <kaz> subtopic: Issue 522
10:13:39 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/522 Issue 522 - Identify Additional System Components
10:13:42 <kaz> closed
10:13:54 <kaz> subtopic: Issue 533
10:14:09 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/533 Issue 533 - Lifecycle section: Incorporate review feedback from security group
10:14:10 <kaz> closed
10:14:16 <kaz> subtopic: Issue 534
10:14:33 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/534 Issue 534 - Terminology: Consistenly use "Thing Model" across requirements, use cases, specs
10:14:34 <kaz> closed
10:14:42 <kaz> subtopic: Issue 546
10:15:05 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/546 Issue 546 - Revise list of co-editors
10:15:06 <kaz> closed
10:15:11 <kaz> subtopic: Issue 551
10:15:32 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/551 Issue 551 - Introduction text to chapter 8.1
10:15:33 <kaz> closed
10:15:37 <kaz> subtopic: Issue 552
10:15:57 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/552 Issue 552 - Lifecycle intro text
10:15:58 <kaz> close
10:16:02 <kaz> subtopic: Issue 556
10:16:25 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/556 Issue 556 - Introduction for Profile section (9.2)
10:16:36 <kaz> ml: for the moment, we don't need this
10:16:48 <kaz> mm: need to deal with the TAG review comments around this separately
10:16:50 <kaz> ml: ok
10:16:52 <kaz> closed
10:16:57 <kaz> subtopic: Issue 591
10:17:22 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/591 Issue 591 - Clarify optionality discovery mechanisms in section 8.4
10:17:23 <kaz> closed
10:17:28 <kaz> subtopic: Issue 610
10:18:06 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/610 Issue 610 - Review / update list of editors
10:18:08 <kaz> closed
10:19:07 <kaz> subtopic: others
10:19:44 <kaz> 652
10:19:49 <kaz> 775
10:19:54 <kaz> 806
10:19:59 <kaz> 813
10:20:20 <kaz> i/652/(The following issues have been also closed)
10:20:28 <kaz> s/813//
10:20:36 <kaz> ml: need Toumura-san for 813
10:20:53 <kaz> topic: New issues
10:21:33 <kaz> subtopic: Issue 817
10:21:43 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/817 Issue 817 - Review for unnecessary normative statements [TAG feedback]
10:21:54 <kaz> mm: TAG issues should be closed by the TAG
10:21:56 <kaz> ml: ok
10:22:31 <kaz> mm: breaking up this issue into smaller issues would make sense
10:23:07 <kaz> ml: what kind of label to be added to this issue?
10:23:36 <kaz> mm: can leave it asis
10:24:04 <kaz> q+
10:24:30 <kaz> ack k
10:25:02 <kaz> kaz: maybe putting "tag-needs-resolution" label as usual would be useful so that they can pick it up easily later
10:25:23 <kaz> ml: (adds the "tag-needs-resolution" label)
10:25:36 <kaz> subtopic: Issue 818
10:26:02 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/818 Issue 818 - Consider whether this makes more sense as a Note [TAG feedback]
10:26:16 <kaz> ml: (adds the "tag-needs-resolution" label to issue 818 as well)
10:26:21 <kaz> topic: PRs
10:26:25 <kaz> subtopic: PR 792
10:26:48 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/792 PR 792 - Chapter 9: editorial fixes
10:27:44 <kaz> merged
10:29:18 <kaz> topic: Issues
10:29:37 <kaz> s/topic: Issues//
10:31:10 <kaz> subtopic: PR 795
10:31:42 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/795 PR 795 - Address feedback from i18n group
10:31:44 <kaz> merged
10:32:00 <kaz> mm: note we need to think about how to deal with the reference by ReSpec reference
10:32:19 <kaz> subtopic: PR 799
10:32:36 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/799 PR 799 - Clarifications on discovery
10:33:31 <kaz> q+
10:34:03 <kaz> kaz: changes requested McCool have been applied. right?
10:34:06 <kaz> ml: yes
10:34:10 <kaz> merged
10:34:30 <kaz> topic: PR 813
10:34:42 <kaz> present+ Sebastian_Kaebisch
10:34:57 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/813 PR 813 - fix links
10:35:10 <kaz> mm: need to check the link using the Link checker
10:37:40 <kaz> kaz: will check with Toumura-san
10:37:48 <kaz> merged
10:38:30 <kaz> mm: we need to fix the index.html under publication/ver11/2-wd
10:38:53 <kaz> kaz: seems this PR includes both index.html and Overview.html
10:38:57 <kaz> ... so should be OK
10:39:12 <kaz> ml: I'll also check with Toumura-san
10:39:29 <kaz> subtopic: PR 785
10:39:46 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/785 PR 785 - WIP: Impl rep update - end of June
10:39:51 <kaz> mm: we can merge this PR
10:40:03 <kaz> ... may need some cleaning up later, though
10:40:09 <kaz> ... fixing markup, etc.
10:40:26 <kaz> ... can work on another update
10:40:28 <kaz> ml: ok
10:40:30 <kaz> merged
10:41:42 <kaz> topic: Issue again
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10:43:07 <kaz> subtopic: 812
10:43:12 <mlagally> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/812
10:43:22 <kaz> s/https/-> https/
10:43:32 <kaz> s/812/812 Issue 812 - update change log for WD publication
10:43:42 <kaz> mm: related to the change log
10:43:50 <kaz> ... (shows the HTML diff)
10:44:07 <kaz> -> https://services.w3.org/htmldiff?doc1=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FTR%2F2020%2FWD-wot-architecture11-20201124%2F&doc2=https%3A%2F%2Fw3c.github.io%2Fwot-architecture%2F%2Findex.html#cloud-connected-devices HTML diff from the previous draft
10:44:21 <kaz> s/mm:/ml:/
10:44:45 <kaz> assigned to McCool
10:45:06 <kaz> s/Issue again/Publication/
10:45:48 <kaz> subtopic: Issue 805
10:46:19 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/805 Issue 805 - Update CoRAL reference
10:46:28 <kaz> ml: thought it had been done
10:46:34 <kaz> (checks the draft)
10:46:40 <kaz> ml: still need to be updated
10:46:59 <kaz> assigned to McCool
10:47:37 <kaz> topic: TAG review
10:47:47 <kaz> s/topic: TAG review//
10:47:51 <kaz> topic: APA review
10:48:06 <kaz> subtopic: Issue 796
10:48:22 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/796 Issue 796 - Accessibility (APA) review
10:49:07 <kaz> -> https://w3c.github.io/apa/fast/checklist.html APA FAST Checklist
10:49:19 <kaz> assigned to McCool
10:49:24 <kaz> topic: TAG feedback
10:50:01 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/labels/tag-needs-resolution issues labeled as "tag-needs-resolution"
10:50:07 <kaz> subtopic: Issue 808
10:50:40 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/808 Issue 808 - Markup normative sections in Chapter 8
10:51:31 <kaz> -> https://w3c.github.io/wot-architecture/#sec-wot-architecture Chapter 8 (which is now Chapter 6. Abstract WoT System Architecture)
10:51:49 <kaz> mm: need to identify which subsection is informative
10:52:19 <kaz> ml: let's put another labeled "resolved"
10:52:25 <kaz> mm: we can revisit it
10:52:45 <kaz> subtopic: Issue 809
10:53:19 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/809 Issue 809 - Fix normative references / convert to informative, where applicable
10:53:41 <kaz> mm: the question here is if we can check the feature at the implementation level?
10:53:48 <kaz> s/level?/level/
10:54:23 <kaz> ... related to issue 811
10:54:30 <kaz> ... and 817
10:54:53 <kaz> ml: can I assign you?
10:55:03 <kaz> mm: fine. it's part of the core issue
10:55:31 <kaz> ... related to 816 as well
10:55:49 <kaz> ml: (assigns Issue 816 as well to McCool)
10:56:19 <kaz> (McCool got new assignment for 817, 816, 812 and 811)
10:56:40 <kaz> q+
10:57:22 <kaz> kaz: what about 809?
10:57:40 <kaz> mm: put me on 809 too
10:58:13 <kaz> ack k
10:58:17 <kaz> kaz: tx!
10:58:26 <kaz> subtopic: 808
10:58:47 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/808 Issue 808 - Markup normative sections in Chapter
10:58:51 <kaz> closed
10:59:04 <kaz> subtopic: Issue 818
10:59:26 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/818 Issue 818 - Consider whether this makes more sense as a Note [TAG feedback]
10:59:54 <kaz> ml: (adds notes)
11:00:19 <kaz> ...in this charter period, we decided to update the 1.0 document which is a REC.
11:00:56 <kaz> ... changing the status from REC to Note and other substantial changes at this point is not feasible
11:01:04 <kaz> s/feasible/feasible./
11:01:24 <kaz> subtopic: Issue 815
11:02:13 <kaz> s/subtopic: Issue 815//
11:02:20 <kaz> [adjourned]
11:02:25 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
11:02:30 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:02:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/08/04-wot-arch-minutes.html kaz
11:02:50 <kaz> present+ Ege_Korkan
11:02:54 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:02:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/08/04-wot-arch-minutes.html kaz
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