IRC log of aria-editors on 2022-08-03

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18:29:11 [MichaelC]
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meeting: ARIA Editors
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agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria-editors/2022Aug/0002.html
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chair: MichaelC
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18:29:42 [MichaelC]
agenda+ Testing update
18:29:46 [MichaelC]
agenda+ Accname checkin
18:29:53 [MichaelC]
agenda+ Term exports - repos checked for PRs and issues?
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agenda+ OpenUI liaising
18:30:06 [MichaelC]
agenda+ Updating workflow process for living standards
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agenda+ Publications for 2022
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agenda+ Call time
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agenda+ Next meeting
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present+
18:33:37 [Jem]
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present+
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zakim, next item
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agendum 1 -- Testing update -- taken up [from MichaelC]
18:34:37 [MichaelC]
Valerie working on new test harness
18:34:41 [MichaelC]
but for 1.2 won´t be ready
18:34:46 [MichaelC]
Jemma working on IA2 tests
18:34:55 [MichaelC]
Valerie and Joanie doing Mac / Linux tests
18:35:38 [MichaelC]
need someone to do UIA tests, ask in meeting
18:37:38 [MichaelC]
it´s a manual process this time around
18:38:27 [Jem]
present+
18:38:34 [MichaelC]
Core-AAM 1.2 needs CR publication
18:38:46 [MichaelC]
hopefully before TPAC
18:39:04 [MichaelC]
zakim, next item
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agendum 2 -- Accname checkin -- taken up [from MichaelC]
18:40:00 [MichaelC]
next stage is CR for living standards track
18:40:10 [MichaelC]
pretty much on track
18:40:16 [MichaelC]
working out an issue on hidden content
18:42:51 [MichaelC]
looking for co-editor who can help with Github stuff
18:43:24 [MichaelC]
https://www.w3.org/Guide/documentreview/
18:43:53 [MichaelC]
need to run the horizontal review
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zakim, next item
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agendum 3 -- Term exports - repos checked for PRs and issues? -- taken up [from MichaelC]
18:45:11 [MichaelC]
any issues?
18:46:11 [MichaelC]
might be good for APG to use some of these terms
18:46:21 [Jem]
how do we access terms? where is the repo?
18:46:35 [MichaelC]
https://github.com/w3c/webref/
18:47:23 [MichaelC]
Webref database ^ contains the terms, should have a JSON somewhere
18:48:24 [MichaelC]
would be helpful to have a browseable version of webref
18:49:04 [MichaelC]
MC will explore
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zakim, next item
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agendum 4 -- OpenUI liaising -- taken up [from MichaelC]
18:51:25 [MichaelC]
we discussed a monthly meeting with them, should set up
18:52:40 [MichaelC]
https://www.w3.org/2022/04/28-aria-minutes#t03
18:53:14 [MichaelC]
https://www.w3.org/2022/04/28-aria-dive-minutes
18:55:08 [Jem]
https://github.com/openui/open-ui/tree/main/meetings/telecon
18:55:56 [MichaelC]
zakim, next item
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agendum 5 -- Updating workflow process for living standards -- taken up [from MichaelC]
18:56:07 [MichaelC]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/workflow
18:57:03 [MichaelC]
we need to update for living standards
18:57:16 [MichaelC]
revise how tests created
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and when merges to stable happen
18:57:50 [MichaelC]
we may discuss at TPAC
18:58:29 [MichaelC]
also need to work out how redesigned APG fits into that
19:00:18 [MichaelC]
pain points - can get bogged down in review process, discussions get difficult at that point
19:00:59 [MichaelC]
might borrow from AG on handling late comments
19:01:38 [MichaelC]
we used to have CfC on each feature we were deciding on
19:01:45 [MichaelC]
now it´s just at transition reviews
19:02:03 [MichaelC]
instead, we have reviews on PRs
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for Accname that´s been less smooth
19:03:35 [MichaelC]
reviews that aren´t specific about what change to make don´t contribute
19:05:14 [MichaelC]
it can be difficult to follow a change and trace the tests for it, needed changes to APG, etc.
19:06:29 [MichaelC]
issue templates can help, such as what we have at https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/new/choose
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zakim, next item
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agendum 6 -- Publications for 2022 -- taken up [from MichaelC]
19:09:11 [MichaelC]
Core-AAM CR is next
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then progress ARIA 1.2 to Rec
19:09:40 [MichaelC]
should publish FPWD of ARIA 1.3
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Accname CR
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1.1
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https://www.w3.org/TR/accname-1.2/
19:11:28 [Jem]
https://www.w3.org/TR/core-aam-1.2/
19:12:53 [MichaelC]
to publish evergreen, we need to first advance docs to Candidate Recommendation Draft
19:12:59 [MichaelC]
then we maintain as CR Snapshots
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and publish CRD or Rec snapshot every 2 years
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19:15:17 [MichaelC]
question of how version numbers change with evergreen
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and how a reader knows it´s evergreen
19:15:36 [MichaelC]
but much of the pub work this year is getting onto the evergreen tracking
19:15:59 [MichaelC]
https://github.com/w3c/tr-design/
19:16:12 [MichaelC]
^ TR design does styling for TR
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zakim, next item
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agendum 7 -- Call time -- taken up [from MichaelC]
19:21:38 [Jem]
there is silver meeting at 9am on Friday but I can skip a few meetings.
19:23:18 [MichaelC]
RESOLUTION: new call time is Fridays at noon Boston time
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zakim, next item
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agendum 8 -- Next meeting -- taken up [from MichaelC]
19:24:14 [MichaelC]
Next meeting: 19 August 2022
19:24:40 [MichaelC]
zakim, close this item
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agendum 8 closed
19:24:41 [Zakim]
I see nothing remaining on the agenda
19:25:19 [MichaelC]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/08/03-aria-editors-minutes.html MichaelC