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18:29:11 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make log world
18:29:14 <MichaelC> meeting: ARIA Editors
18:29:16 <MichaelC> agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria-editors/2022Aug/0002.html
18:29:18 <MichaelC> chair: MichaelC
18:29:22 <MichaelC> scribe: MichaelC
18:29:29 <MichaelC> scribeOptions: -final
18:29:42 <MichaelC> agenda+ Testing update
18:29:46 <MichaelC> agenda+ Accname checkin
18:29:53 <MichaelC> agenda+ Term exports - repos checked for PRs and issues?
18:29:59 <MichaelC> agenda+ OpenUI liaising
18:30:06 <MichaelC> agenda+ Updating workflow process for living standards
18:30:11 <MichaelC> agenda+ Publications for 2022
18:30:17 <MichaelC> agenda+ Call time
18:30:20 <MichaelC> agenda+ Next meeting
18:30:56 <MichaelC> present+
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18:33:56 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
18:33:56 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Testing update -- taken up [from MichaelC]
18:34:37 <MichaelC> Valerie working on new test harness
18:34:41 <MichaelC> but for 1.2 won´t be ready
18:34:46 <MichaelC> Jemma working on IA2 tests
18:34:55 <MichaelC> Valerie and Joanie doing Mac / Linux tests
18:35:38 <MichaelC> need someone to do UIA tests, ask in meeting
18:37:38 <MichaelC> it´s a manual process this time around
18:38:27 <Jem> present+
18:38:34 <MichaelC> Core-AAM 1.2 needs CR publication
18:38:46 <MichaelC> hopefully before TPAC
18:39:04 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
18:39:04 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Accname checkin -- taken up [from MichaelC]
18:40:00 <MichaelC> next stage is CR for living standards track
18:40:10 <MichaelC> pretty much on track
18:40:16 <MichaelC> working out an issue on hidden content
18:42:51 <MichaelC> looking for co-editor who can help with Github stuff
18:43:24 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Guide/documentreview/
18:43:53 <MichaelC> need to run the horizontal review
18:44:46 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
18:44:46 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Term exports - repos checked for PRs and issues? -- taken up [from MichaelC]
18:45:11 <MichaelC> any issues?
18:46:11 <MichaelC> might be good for APG to use some of these terms
18:46:21 <Jem> how do we access terms? where is the repo?
18:46:35 <MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/webref/
18:47:23 <MichaelC> Webref database ^ contains the terms, should have a JSON somewhere
18:48:24 <MichaelC> would be helpful to have a browseable version of webref
18:49:04 <MichaelC> MC will explore
18:50:34 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
18:50:34 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- OpenUI liaising -- taken up [from MichaelC]
18:51:25 <MichaelC> we discussed a monthly meeting with them, should set up
18:52:40 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/2022/04/28-aria-minutes#t03
18:53:14 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/2022/04/28-aria-dive-minutes
18:55:08 <Jem> https://github.com/openui/open-ui/tree/main/meetings/telecon
18:55:56 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
18:55:56 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Updating workflow process for living standards -- taken up [from MichaelC]
18:56:07 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/workflow
18:57:03 <MichaelC> we need to update for living standards
18:57:16 <MichaelC> revise how tests created
18:57:20 <MichaelC> and when merges to stable happen
18:57:50 <MichaelC> we may discuss at TPAC
18:58:29 <MichaelC> also need to work out how redesigned APG fits into that
19:00:18 <MichaelC> pain points - can get bogged down in review process, discussions get difficult at that point
19:00:59 <MichaelC> might borrow from AG on handling late comments
19:01:38 <MichaelC> we used to have CfC on each feature we were deciding on
19:01:45 <MichaelC> now it´s just at transition reviews
19:02:03 <MichaelC> instead, we have reviews on PRs
19:02:15 <MichaelC> for Accname that´s been less smooth
19:03:35 <MichaelC> reviews that aren´t specific about what change to make don´t contribute
19:05:14 <MichaelC> it can be difficult to follow a change and trace the tests for it, needed changes to APG, etc.
19:06:29 <MichaelC> issue templates can help, such as what we have at https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/new/choose
19:08:49 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
19:08:49 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- Publications for 2022 -- taken up [from MichaelC]
19:09:11 <MichaelC> Core-AAM CR is next
19:09:19 <MichaelC> then progress ARIA 1.2 to Rec
19:09:40 <MichaelC> should publish FPWD of ARIA 1.3
19:09:47 <MichaelC> Accname CR
19:09:52 <MichaelC> 1.1
19:10:21 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/TR/accname-1.2/
19:11:28 <Jem> https://www.w3.org/TR/core-aam-1.2/
19:12:53 <MichaelC> to publish evergreen, we need to first advance docs to Candidate Recommendation Draft
19:12:59 <MichaelC> then we maintain as CR Snapshots
19:13:08 <MichaelC> and publish CRD or Rec snapshot every 2 years
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19:15:17 <MichaelC> question of how version numbers change with evergreen
19:15:22 <MichaelC> and how a reader knows it´s evergreen
19:15:36 <MichaelC> but much of the pub work this year is getting onto the evergreen tracking
19:15:59 <MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/tr-design/
19:16:12 <MichaelC> ^ TR design does styling for TR
19:16:50 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
19:16:50 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- Call time -- taken up [from MichaelC]
19:21:38 <Jem> there is silver meeting at 9am on Friday but I can skip a few meetings.
19:23:18 <MichaelC> RESOLUTION: new call time is Fridays at noon Boston time
19:23:27 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
19:23:27 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- Next meeting -- taken up [from MichaelC]
19:24:14 <MichaelC> Next meeting: 19 August 2022
19:24:40 <MichaelC> zakim, close this item
19:24:40 <Zakim> agendum 8 closed
19:24:41 <Zakim> I see nothing remaining on the agenda
19:25:19 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make minutes
19:25:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/08/03-aria-editors-minutes.html MichaelC