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10:03:14 <kaz> meeting: WoT Architecture
10:06:16 <kaz> chair: Lagally
10:06:47 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_Lagally, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_McCool
10:08:51 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushia
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10:09:03 <kaz> present- Tomoaki_Mizushia
10:09:07 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
10:09:07 <McCool> topic: minutes
10:09:14 <McCool> minutes of 6-30
10:09:20 <kaz> ->https://www.w3.org/2022/06/30-wot-arch-minutes.html June-30
10:10:17 <McCool> ml: reviewed schedule, PRs, static HTML version, agreed to work on issue #766 offline (will check if was done)
10:10:24 <McCool> ml: any objections to publish?
10:10:35 <McCool> ml: no, publishing
10:10:40 <McCool> topic: contributions
10:11:16 <McCool> subtopic: PR #786
10:11:40 <McCool> ml: cleanup of use cases and requirements in repo, move into archive
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10:12:08 <McCool> ... moved these over to use cases repo a long time ago
10:12:43 <kaz> i|cleanup|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/786 PR 786 - Cleanup - archiving USE CASES and REQUIREMENTS|
10:12:43 <McCool> subtopic: PR 787
10:13:03 <McCool> ml: improvement to intro and terminlogy
10:15:45 <kaz> i|impro|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/787 PR 787 - Text improvements to Introduction and Terminology|
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10:20:30 <sebastian> q+
10:20:53 <kaz> ack s
10:21:01 <kaz> present+ Sebastian_Kaebisch
10:22:28 <McCool> mm: ok in general, but "large" and "powerful" descriptions of classes may be off by an order of magnitude
10:22:49 <McCool> ml: suggest we merge and then file an issue
10:23:43 <McCool> mm: one solution is to add an extra class at the end, shift the descriptions down one, and introduce a "medium" edge server.
10:25:09 <McCool> ml: creates issue #801
10:25:44 <McCool> subtopic: PR 788
10:25:52 <McCool> ml: editorial fixes to section 4 and 5
10:26:47 <McCool> ml: using "scenario" rather than "use case" in some places
10:28:48 <McCool> mm: wonder about whether we need this much detail here given that we have a use case document
10:29:33 <kaz> i|PR 788|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/801 Issue 801 - Device Categories: Add Class 7, improve "typical application scenarios"|
10:29:39 <McCool> ml: is helpful for people reviewing to get the context
10:29:58 <McCool> mm: ok as long as we emphasize there is a much larger document, and this just a summary
10:30:15 <McCool> seb: use case document has much more detail, this is more compact, which is useful
10:30:18 <kaz> i|editorial fixes|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/788 PR 788 - Editorial fixes for section 4 + 5|
10:30:31 <McCool> ... people can get an impression of what domains are being addressed
10:31:08 <kaz> q+
10:31:43 <McCool> ml: as for actual changes, referenced a particular class
10:32:35 <McCool> mm: we should be careful about making a 1:1 mapping between Things and devices, not the same.  but ok
10:33:06 <McCool> ml: also cloud-ready to cloud connected
10:34:02 <McCool> kaz: going back to use case discussion: for moment, can add some more links to use case document to section
10:34:22 <McCool> mm: for example, linking to particular sections in use case document
10:34:26 <Mizushima> +1 kaz
10:34:46 <McCool> ml: also adding a single link at least from the introduction should be done
10:36:31 <McCool> ml: creates issue 802
10:37:12 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/802 Issue 802 - Add a link to use cases document to section 4
10:37:22 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
10:37:27 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
10:37:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/07/14-wot-arch-minutes.html kaz
10:38:38 <McCool> mm: wonder if we should have a terminology definition?   It depends on how much we use it.
10:40:40 <McCool> kt: note that section title is deployment pattern, perhaps we should use that instead of "deployment scenario"?
10:41:50 <McCool> ... your pull request changes several terms from "use case" to "scenario", but perhaps "deployment pattern" would be more consistent?
10:43:08 <McCool> ml: we could also delete "common"
10:43:32 <McCool> mm: common is meant to imply these are high-probability patterns, there might be others
10:44:23 <McCool> kaz: can toumura type in irc?
10:44:35 <McCool> ml: or an issue, given audio issues?
10:45:44 <McCool> ml: creates issue to "Consistently use deployment pattern" as issue #803
10:45:55 <McCool> ml: can we merge?
10:45:59 <McCool> mm: ok with merging
10:46:09 <McCool> ml: any other comments?
10:46:28 <McCool> ml: no more comments, merging
10:46:36 <McCool> subtopic: PR #789
10:46:43 <McCool> ml: Editorial fixes to Ch 6
10:47:38 <kaz> i|Edito|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/789 PR 789 - Editorial fixes to chapter 6|
10:53:12 <kaz> q?
10:53:14 <kaz> ack k
10:53:32 <McCool> mm: the use of "kinds" instead of "possibilities" is not quite right, but the other changes look ok
10:54:14 <McCool> mm: suggest merging, and then I can do a post-merge review and English fixup
10:54:42 <McCool> ml: ok, merging
10:55:00 <McCool> subtopic: PR #790
10:55:32 <McCool> ml: updates to chapter 7
10:56:01 <McCool> mm: suggest we review the editorial PRs offline, and deal with logisitics
10:56:17 <McCool> subtopic: Pr #793
10:56:39 <McCool> ml: cleaning up editors and past editors, and cleaning up acks
10:57:22 <McCool> mm: thanks, also good that added Matthias and Kaz
10:57:30 <McCool> topic: TAG feedback
10:58:01 <McCool> ml: a lot of feedback, asking if we should split things up into multiple issues
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10:59:32 <kaz> i|a lot of|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/797 Issue 797 - https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/797 Issue 797 - Architecture (TAG) Review|
10:59:37 <McCool> mm: agree to let them split it up
10:59:45 <McCool> mm: any show-stoppers?
10:59:55 <McCool> ml: have not had a chance to read through it all
11:01:07 <McCool> ml: don't have time to discuss now, let's
11:02:22 <McCool> ml: regarding WD, do we include recent updates?
11:02:38 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
11:02:40 <McCool> mm: I think we should just push out the version we already had in flight
11:02:42 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:02:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/07/14-wot-arch-minutes.html kaz
11:02:52 <kaz> q+
11:03:46 <kaz> i/regarding/Topic: PR 780/
11:04:23 <kaz> i|regarding|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/780 PR 780 - Generate static HTML file for WD publication (for CR candidate)|
11:05:10 <mlagally> proposal: publish the version from https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/780 as WD.
11:05:28 <mlagally> resolution: publish the version from https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/780 as WD.
11:06:12 <kaz> kaz: just to make sure, let's check the HTML diff with the latest Editor's draft before publishing
11:06:15 <kaz> [adjourned]
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11:06:57 <kaz> i/minutes of 6/scribenick: McCool/
11:06:59 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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