IRC log of ixml on 2022-06-21
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- Meeting: ixml Group Teleconference
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- Date: 21 June 2022
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- Chair: Steven
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- Previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2022/06/07-ixml-minutes.html
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- Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022Jun/0034
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- Regrets: Bethan
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- Present: Tom, John, Norm, Steven
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- TOPIC: action items review
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- no V1 action items presently
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- TOPIC: Status Reports
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- ndw's implementation in good state, aiming for a 2.0 release by Balisage
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- Steven apologises that his implementation was down for a while earlier this week
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- JL's implmentation online
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- passing all tests older than a week
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- Sent everyone details on the XPath features; might try to get QT3 tests running against it.
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- ACTION: JW to get
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- s/ to get/ to get QT3 tests working on his XPath feature
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- Michael: Fixing test failures; only remaing gaps are insertion tests.
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- ACTION: Michael to close and re-open pull request #115
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- s/remaing/remaining
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- TFJH: not had much time to work on my implementation: think I'm going to step back from the committee meetings and spend more time on github/tests/balisage/JayParser
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- Steven: proposes reducing committee meetings to monthly for a while (second Tuesday of each month)
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- Tom: proposes keeping the same diary slot for other breakout meetings, e.g. balisage papers
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- TOPIC: Testing
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- JL: I find it hard to navigate: I could do with a way of just seeing current tests
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- ndw; suggest cloning a second copy for ease of comparison
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- s/ndw;/NDW
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- Instructions for pulling a given branch is available at the bottom of a given PR
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- TOPIC: Balisage
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- Steven: What has got to be done, and who is doing it?
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- NDW: happy for Michael to kick off with a summary of the b
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- s/b/V1 release
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- ...or Steven?
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- Norm: I said Steven, but I don't care who does it.
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- Sessions are 45 minutes (30 mins talking, 15 mins questions)
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- Michael: the answer to "when can I use it" is "you can use it today"; lots of demos would be good.
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- Tom: a schematron based demonstration would be good: cf Jirka's paper in XML London (link to follow by email)
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- ACTION: Tom to set up a schematron demo
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- Michael: it would be good to show we get the same results for some sentence across the implmentations. Suggest Oberon language as a candidate.
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- NDW: the grammar for extracting docbook bibliographies would be great
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- Steven: That's the one I was intending to do.
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- JL: I have the XPath one to do.
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- ACTION: Michael to look at FXSL library for a source of XPath samples
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- JL: we are hampered by not being able to include one grammar in another (e.g. ISO dates in ISO lists)
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- Michael: for now, I would suggest simple macro expansion to build grammars outside of iXML
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- ACTION: Steven to introduce: prose by 1st July ready for conference proceeding
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- ACTION: all to produce proce precis of demos by 1st July ready for conference proceedings
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- s/demos/demos and implementations
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- TOPIC: website and implmentations
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- NDW: I propose putting the spec and grammars in a /1.0/ directory for future proofing
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- Steven: we can redirect the existing URLs to the latest version
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- ACTION: NDW to update web CI to produce such a webpage
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- Next meeting: 12th July 2022 AD
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- Tom: suggest pragma paper authors meet this time next week
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