IRC log of rqtf on 2022-06-15
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- Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 15 June 2022
- 12:43:10 [jasonjgw]
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- present+
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- chair: jasonjgw
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- agenda+ Synchronization Accessibility User Requirements.
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- agenda+ Accessibility of remote meetings.
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- agenda+ Accessibility of collaboration tools.
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- agenda+ Potential accessibility-related use cases for reporting API.
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- agenda+ Natural Language Interface Accessibility User Requirements.
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- agenda+ Inaccessibility of CAPTCHA.
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- agenda+ Miscellaneous topics.
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- agenda?
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- present+
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- present+ Scott
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 1 -- Synchronization Accessibility User Requirements. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
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- present+
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- present+ Josh
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- agenda?
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- present+
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- jasonjgw: The announcement text has been drafted and is ready for further editing
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- janina: Editorial changes to the SAUR itself are a little further in the Note process
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- janina: The Note will be published now that the CfC has been successful - that itself is independent of the messaging
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 2 -- Accessibility of remote meetings. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
- 13:09:35 [SteveNoble]
- jasonjgw: Emails with the EO working group have transpired
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- jasonjgw: They may have comments on the draft
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- jasonjgw: We do not yet have an ETA on comments as of this point
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- jasonjgw: The CfC runs through Friday
- 13:12:57 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- q?
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- q+
- 13:13:18 [SteveNoble]
- scott: Have we any new COGA comments?
- 13:14:05 [SteveNoble]
- janina: We went through all their comments and dealt with each one, although not all were adopted
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- janina: Would be good to have a summary of how we addressed each comment
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- Scott: will look at these and list them out so they are documented
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- jasonjgw: Other comments
- 13:18:46 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- ack Lionel_Wolberger
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 3 -- Accessibility of collaboration tools. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
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- zakim, take up item 6
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- agendum 6 -- Inaccessibility of CAPTCHA. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
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- Lionel_Wolberger: Apple has moved forward with Passkey
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- Lionel_Wolberger: We are tracking this - reached out to get more details
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- Lionel_Wolberger: Meeting with Manu this week - should give us more perspective
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- janina: There is a movement away from multiple passwords, which should also be heading toward human authentication
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- present+ Raja
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- Raja: There are a lot of users who find face recognition or verbal authentication innaccessible - especially if there are more than one users on a give device
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- janina: We have always stressed multiple authentication techniques
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- janina: There are mechanisms for a single device to accommodate multiple users
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- janina: The problem is when a user who doesn't already have account access set up tries to use it
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- Josh: downloadable keys are also a possible method
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- jasonjgw: The expectation is that the user has at least one method that works for them
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- janina: APA has always insisted that the multiple biometric options be available - not just one
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- janina: A lot of this presumes access to a mobile device - which is not a reality everywhere
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- jasonjgw: We can come back to this next week
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- jasonjgw: At some point we will need to update the existing document
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- janina: That would probably be after TPAC due to other priorities
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- Lionel_Wolberger: Any further thoughts from Raja?
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- Raja: Nothing else
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- Lionel_Wolberger: One corner of this discussion of caretaker identities (like power of attorney in the legal field)
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- Lionel_Wolberger: One example is a child's account that must be set up by a parent
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- raja: One example is using a voice relay service
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- Raja: Cannot use voice authentication for a bank account, since the vocal assistant changes
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- raja: Under US law, all banks must accept a call that comes from a voice relay service
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- Lionel_Wolberger: Examples include fiduciary, caretaker, POA, interpreter, etc.
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- janina: A lot of concerns also for users with cognitive issues
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- Lionel_Wolberger: Thanks to the signers on the call!
- 13:45:39 [jasonjgw]
- zakim, take up item 3
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- agendum 3 -- Accessibility of collaboration tools. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
- 13:46:15 [SteveNoble]
- jasonjgw: Thanks to Scott for the references on the wiki
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- jasonjgw: We need a title and need to firm up the scope
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- jasonjgw: Annotation tools should be in scope
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- jasonjgw: Ideas for refining the scope and title?
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- Scott: Like the term "online collaboration tools"
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- janina: Regardless of the title, we need the short name for the repository
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- Josh: "Collaboration accessibility user requirements"
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- jasonjgw: Some points include Revision management, annotation and comments, multiple users at the same time, handling viewing and editing rights, etc.
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- janina: We can assume Copyright issues are handled by access rights and policies
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 4 -- Potential accessibility-related use cases for reporting API. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
- 13:56:22 [jasonjgw]
- zakim, close item 4
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- agendum 4, Potential accessibility-related use cases for reporting API., closed
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- I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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- 5. Natural Language Interface Accessibility User Requirements. [from jasonjgw]
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 5 -- Natural Language Interface Accessibility User Requirements. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
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- jasonjgw: Josh and I worked on the editorial comments, but still have more to go through
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- jasonjgw: We will need to bring back to next week's meeting
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- zakim, nxt item
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- I don't understand 'nxt item', jasonjgw
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 6 -- Inaccessibility of CAPTCHA. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
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- zakim, close item 6
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- agendum 6, Inaccessibility of CAPTCHA., closed
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- I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
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- 7. Miscellaneous topics. [from jasonjgw]
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 7 -- Miscellaneous topics. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
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- Scott: nothing now
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- jasonjgw: XR access symposium happened last week
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- zakim, bye
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- leaving. As of this point the attendees have been jasonjgw, janina, Scott, SteveNoble, Josh, Lionel_Wolberger, Raja
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