IRC log of pointerevents on 2022-06-08
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- 15:01:40 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
- Meeting: PEWG
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- Chair: Patrick H. Lauke
- 15:01:54 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
- Agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/0d3af70c-0054-43dc-9c15-c60c5b9c3f3c/20220608T110000
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- Scribe: Patrick H. Lauke
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- ScribeNick: Patrick_H_Lauke
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- present+ smaug
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- present+ flackr
- 15:02:30 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
- present+ mustaq
- 15:03:03 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
- TOPIC: Recently merged: Cleanup and respec fixes https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/pull/441
- 15:04:11 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
- Patrick: all respec bugs have been fixed, and Dom has sent a PR that I merged that made further fixes to respec. so all good
- 15:04:26 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
- TOPIC: New: Properties firing pointermove and pointerrawupdate https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/pull/443
- 15:09:13 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
- [reading over the changes]
- 15:09:47 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
- Patrick: just confirmed that if there's *just* a change of button state (e.g. clicking mouse button making sure there's no other movement), then yes no pointermove is fired https://patrickhlauke.github.io/touch/tests/event-listener.html
- 15:11:52 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
- Rob: concern about situations like drawing applications, fast movements and then lifting mouse button (?)
- 15:12:04 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
- Olli: I think in practice though this will be fine
- 15:13:18 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
- Rob: concerned about what happens when the change of position and button change happen exactly at the same time
- 15:13:40 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
- Patrick: but they'd still be separate events
- 15:14:27 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
- Olli: need to see though what button state would be in the move and the up events
- 15:14:37 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
- [more discussion on the concurrent event case]
- 15:15:00 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
- Rob: maybe we can define which events need to be fired when properties change (?)
- 15:15:10 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
- Rob: but for this, it seems fine
- 15:15:14 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
- Olli: agrees
- 15:15:22 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
- ACTION: merge the PR
- 15:19:00 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
- TOPIC: Heartbeat: Clarify what the target of the click event should be after capturing pointer events https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/issues/356
- 15:19:33 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
- Patrick: just a heartbeat, to keep this on people's agenda
- 15:19:57 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
- Patrick: no activity so far
- 15:20:08 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
- Rob: maybe we can add something to our schedule to look at this
- 15:20:20 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
- Mustaq: things that need to be fixed in Chrome, yes, but no progress
- 15:20:38 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
- TOPIC: Side note about touch-events: Reword altitudeAngle/azimuthAngle descriptions in line with PE, add illustrations https://github.com/w3c/touch-events/pull/125
- 15:23:34 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
- Patrick: just as a side note that the touch events spec now mirrors the wording used in the pointer events spec for altitudeAngle and azimuthAngle, including the diagrams. one notable difference of course is the bit where we decided to differ in PE for the default value when pen is perpendicular, so TE spec now has a matching but opposite note pointing out how it differs from PE
- 15:24:15 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
- Patrick: Mustaq/Rob, you ok for next meeting to look at the further clarification about what exactly happens for concurrent move and up/down events (from our first topic)?
- 15:24:21 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
- [Rob/Mustaq agree]
- 15:24:31 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
- Patrick: thank you all, catch you again in two weeks' time
- 15:24:39 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
- rrsagent, make logs world-visible
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- rrsagent, generate minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/06/08-pointerevents-minutes.html Patrick_H_Lauke
- 15:24:50 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
- rrsagent, make logs world-visible
- 15:25:07 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
- rrsagent, bye
- 15:25:07 [RRSAgent]
- I see 1 open action item saved in https://www.w3.org/2022/06/08-pointerevents-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: merge the PR [1]
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- recorded in https://www.w3.org/2022/06/08-pointerevents-irc#T15-15-22