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15:01:40 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Meeting: PEWG
15:01:46 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Chair: Patrick H. Lauke
15:01:54 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/0d3af70c-0054-43dc-9c15-c60c5b9c3f3c/20220608T110000
15:02:05 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Scribe: Patrick H. Lauke
15:02:11 <Patrick_H_Lauke> ScribeNick: Patrick_H_Lauke
15:02:14 <Patrick_H_Lauke> present+ smaug
15:02:19 <Patrick_H_Lauke> present+ flackr
15:02:30 <Patrick_H_Lauke> present+ mustaq
15:03:03 <Patrick_H_Lauke> TOPIC: Recently merged: Cleanup and respec fixes https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/pull/441
15:04:11 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: all respec bugs have been fixed, and Dom has sent a PR that I merged that made further fixes to respec. so all good
15:04:26 <Patrick_H_Lauke> TOPIC: New: Properties firing pointermove and pointerrawupdate https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/pull/443
15:09:13 <Patrick_H_Lauke> [reading over the changes]
15:09:47 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: just confirmed that if there's *just* a change of button state (e.g. clicking mouse button making sure there's no other movement), then yes no pointermove is fired https://patrickhlauke.github.io/touch/tests/event-listener.html
15:11:52 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Rob: concern about situations like drawing applications, fast movements and then lifting mouse button (?)
15:12:04 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Olli: I think in practice though this will be fine
15:13:18 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Rob: concerned about what happens when the change of position and button change happen exactly at the same time
15:13:40 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: but they'd still be separate events
15:14:27 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Olli: need to see though what button state would be in the move and the up events
15:14:37 <Patrick_H_Lauke> [more discussion on the concurrent event case]
15:15:00 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Rob: maybe we can define which events need to be fired when properties change (?)
15:15:10 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Rob: but for this, it seems fine
15:15:14 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Olli: agrees
15:15:22 <Patrick_H_Lauke> ACTION: merge the PR
15:19:00 <Patrick_H_Lauke> TOPIC: Heartbeat: Clarify what the target of the click event should be after capturing pointer events https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/issues/356
15:19:33 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: just a heartbeat, to keep this on people's agenda
15:19:57 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: no activity so far
15:20:08 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Rob: maybe we can add something to our schedule to look at this
15:20:20 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Mustaq: things that need to be fixed in Chrome, yes, but no progress
15:20:38 <Patrick_H_Lauke> TOPIC: Side note about touch-events: Reword altitudeAngle/azimuthAngle descriptions in line with PE, add illustrations https://github.com/w3c/touch-events/pull/125
15:23:34 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: just as a side note that the touch events spec now mirrors the wording used in the pointer events spec for altitudeAngle and azimuthAngle, including the diagrams. one notable difference of course is the bit where we decided to differ in PE for the default value when pen is perpendicular, so TE spec now has a matching but opposite note pointing out how it differs from PE
15:24:15 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: Mustaq/Rob, you ok for next meeting to look at the further clarification about what exactly happens for concurrent move and up/down events (from our first topic)?
15:24:21 <Patrick_H_Lauke> [Rob/Mustaq agree]
15:24:31 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: thank you all, catch you again in two weeks' time
15:24:39 <Patrick_H_Lauke> rrsagent, make logs world-visible
15:24:43 <Patrick_H_Lauke> rrsagent, generate minutes
15:24:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/06/08-pointerevents-minutes.html Patrick_H_Lauke
15:24:50 <Patrick_H_Lauke> rrsagent, make logs world-visible
15:25:07 <Patrick_H_Lauke> rrsagent, bye
15:25:07 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in https://www.w3.org/2022/06/08-pointerevents-actions.rdf :
15:25:07 <RRSAgent> ACTION: merge the PR [1]
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