IRC log of immersive-web on 2022-05-31
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- logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/05/31-immersive-web-irc
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- 19:03:54 [ada]
- present+
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- present+
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- present+
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- present+
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- present+
- 19:08:07 [atsushi]
- present+
- 19:08:13 [atsushi]
- rrsagent, make log public
- 19:08:17 [atsushi]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
- 19:08:17 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/05/31-immersive-web-minutes.html atsushi
- 19:08:29 [Nick-8thWall]
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- 19:08:33 [atsushi]
- meeting: Immersive Web WG/CG call
- 19:08:34 [ashwin]
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- 19:08:50 [atsushi]
- agenda: https://github.com/immersive-web/administrivia/blob/main/meetings/wg/2022-06-08-Immersive_Web_Working_Group_Teleconference-agenda.md
- 19:09:30 [ada]
- scribenick: Nick-8thWall
- 19:10:35 [Nick-8thWall]
- atsushi: For a new charter we need signoff from each wg participating organization. Please ask your AC rep to sign off.
- 19:11:17 [cwilso]
- https://www.w3.org/Member/ACList
- 19:11:56 [cwilso]
- ^^ that's the list of AC reps for each company
- 19:12:04 [yonet]
- https://github.com/immersive-web/proposals/issues/68
- 19:12:18 [atsushi]
- i/atsushi: For a new charter /topic: AC review on proposed charter
- 19:12:35 [atsushi]
- topic: proposal #68, XRCamera capture
- 19:12:50 [atsushi]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
- 19:12:50 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/05/31-immersive-web-minutes.html atsushi
- 19:14:19 [Nick-8thWall]
- alcooper: Progress - needs a non-google co-sponsor
- 19:14:48 [Nick-8thWall]
- alcooper: background: Intent is to allow google model viewer to mimic what apple's model viewer does
- 19:15:02 [atsushi]
- agenda: https://github.com/immersive-web/administrivia/blob/main/meetings/wg/2022-05-31-Immersive_Web_Working_Group_Teleconference-agenda.md
- 19:15:09 [ada]
- q?
- 19:15:55 [Nick-8thWall]
- alcooper: Meant to be a privacy preserving way to capture content, also find some way to do this on headset
- 19:16:47 [Nick-8thWall]
- alcooper: other alternatives (e.g. media streams) may not work well on headsets
- 19:17:19 [Nick-8thWall]
- q+
- 19:17:31 [ada]
- ack Nick-8thWall
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- 19:21:04 [alcooper]
- q+
- 19:21:11 [Nick-8thWall]
- Nick-8thWall: What are the use cases for headsets that would be compelling enough for a feature?
- 19:21:14 [ada]
- ack alcooper
- 19:22:21 [Nick-8thWall]
- Ada: Some people want a way to do this on headsets, have some hacky ways to do it involving encoding on device. A compelling feature would be to draw from a non-viewer camera.
- 19:22:39 [ada]
- q?
- 19:22:48 [Nick-8thWall]
- alcooper: Drawing from a non-viewer camera may be hard to support in existing runtimes on headsets.
- 19:23:55 [Nick-8thWall]
- cabanier: not a priority for oculus but maybe nice to have, could be more helpful in the world of passthrough
- 19:25:04 [Nick-8thWall]
- alcooper: would like to see it go forward but lower on the list of Google's current priorities
- 19:25:28 [bajones]
- +1
- 19:25:37 [atsushi]
- +1
- 19:25:38 [cabanier]
- +1
- 19:25:41 [Ren]
- +1
- 19:25:50 [bialpio]
- +1
- 19:26:01 [Nick-8thWall]
- ada: straw poll for promoting to a repo vs leaving as a proposal
- 19:26:49 [Nick-8thWall]
- ada: Ok to make a repo for this, cabanier and alcooper as maintainers
- 19:28:00 [Nick-8thWall]
- cabanier: would be interesting to discuss local save + restore of anchors
- 19:28:08 [Nick-8thWall]
- q+
- 19:28:13 [bialpio]
- Note: folks who look at the agenda to decide whether to join the call would miss out on this discussion.
- 19:28:24 [atsushi]
- q+ for just for report, horizontal review requests are submitted for AR and gamepads module, hope to go CR around (or before) July
- 19:28:33 [ada]
- ack Nick-8thWall
- 19:28:35 [bajones]
- q+
- 19:29:13 [atsushi]
- topic: AOB
- 19:29:19 [ada]
- q+
- 19:29:34 [Nick-8thWall]
- Nick-8thWall: What's the status of anchors in WebXR
- 19:29:46 [Nick-8thWall]
- cabanier: They exist and they work well
- 19:29:54 [ada]
- ack atsushi
- 19:29:54 [Zakim]
- atsushi, you wanted to discuss just for report, horizontal review requests are submitted for AR and gamepads module, hope to go CR around (or before) July
- 19:30:28 [ada]
- ack bajones
- 19:30:36 [Nick-8thWall]
- atsushi: Sumbitted modules for CR, hope for review around July
- 19:31:40 [cabanier]
- q+
- 19:31:55 [Nick-8thWall]
- bajones: For api shape, may want to have a collection of anchors that are saved and restored together
- 19:32:07 [Nick-8thWall]
- bajones: theoretical fingerprinting concern?
- 19:32:31 [Nick-8thWall]
- q+
- 19:32:45 [cabanier]
- q-
- 19:32:51 [ada]
- ack ada
- 19:33:26 [Nick-8thWall]
- ada: Is this any different from local storage and setting a cookie?
- 19:33:37 [Nick-8thWall]
- bajones: Need to think about this some more.
- 19:33:39 [bialpio]
- q+
- 19:34:28 [ada]
- ack Nick-8thWall
- 19:34:33 [Nick-8thWall]
- ada: Is this anchros level 2 or further work on current module? No preference.
- 19:35:28 [bialpio]
- q-
- 19:36:24 [Nick-8thWall]
- Nick-8thWall: difference from local storage is "I'm now at a place that I was before." Need to think through what that means.
- 19:36:42 [Nick-8thWall]
- +1
- 19:36:44 [ada]
- +1
- 19:36:45 [cabanier]
- q+
- 19:36:46 [bajones]
- +1
- 19:36:48 [cabanier]
- +1
- 19:36:49 [cabanier]
- q-
- 19:36:53 [atsushi]
- +1
- 19:36:53 [Nick-8thWall]
- ada: straw poll for is this a worthwhile effort
- 19:36:55 [bialpio]
- +1
- 19:37:01 [alcooper]
- +1
- 19:37:07 [Ren]
- +1
- 19:37:20 [cabanier]
- q+
- 19:37:38 [Nick-8thWall]
- ada: Probably doesn't need to be level 2, can just be added in current spec.
- 19:37:39 [ada]
- ack cabanier
- 19:38:09 [Nick-8thWall]
- cabanier: additional opt in api, no breaking changes
- 19:39:38 [atsushi]
- rrsagent, publish minutes v2
- 19:39:38 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/05/31-immersive-web-minutes.html atsushi
- 19:40:03 [yonet]
- Thank you Atsushi