IRC log of immersive-web on 2022-05-31

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rrsagent, make log public
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/05/31-immersive-web-minutes.html atsushi
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19:08:33 [atsushi]
meeting: Immersive Web WG/CG call
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19:08:50 [atsushi]
agenda: https://github.com/immersive-web/administrivia/blob/main/meetings/wg/2022-06-08-Immersive_Web_Working_Group_Teleconference-agenda.md
19:09:30 [ada]
scribenick: Nick-8thWall
19:10:35 [Nick-8thWall]
atsushi: For a new charter we need signoff from each wg participating organization. Please ask your AC rep to sign off.
19:11:17 [cwilso]
https://www.w3.org/Member/ACList
19:11:56 [cwilso]
^^ that's the list of AC reps for each company
19:12:04 [yonet]
https://github.com/immersive-web/proposals/issues/68
19:12:18 [atsushi]
i/atsushi: For a new charter /topic: AC review on proposed charter
19:12:35 [atsushi]
topic: proposal #68, XRCamera capture
19:12:50 [atsushi]
rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/05/31-immersive-web-minutes.html atsushi
19:14:19 [Nick-8thWall]
alcooper: Progress - needs a non-google co-sponsor
19:14:48 [Nick-8thWall]
alcooper: background: Intent is to allow google model viewer to mimic what apple's model viewer does
19:15:02 [atsushi]
agenda: https://github.com/immersive-web/administrivia/blob/main/meetings/wg/2022-05-31-Immersive_Web_Working_Group_Teleconference-agenda.md
19:15:09 [ada]
q?
19:15:55 [Nick-8thWall]
alcooper: Meant to be a privacy preserving way to capture content, also find some way to do this on headset
19:16:47 [Nick-8thWall]
alcooper: other alternatives (e.g. media streams) may not work well on headsets
19:17:19 [Nick-8thWall]
q+
19:17:31 [ada]
ack Nick-8thWall
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19:21:04 [alcooper]
q+
19:21:11 [Nick-8thWall]
Nick-8thWall: What are the use cases for headsets that would be compelling enough for a feature?
19:21:14 [ada]
ack alcooper
19:22:21 [Nick-8thWall]
Ada: Some people want a way to do this on headsets, have some hacky ways to do it involving encoding on device. A compelling feature would be to draw from a non-viewer camera.
19:22:39 [ada]
q?
19:22:48 [Nick-8thWall]
alcooper: Drawing from a non-viewer camera may be hard to support in existing runtimes on headsets.
19:23:55 [Nick-8thWall]
cabanier: not a priority for oculus but maybe nice to have, could be more helpful in the world of passthrough
19:25:04 [Nick-8thWall]
alcooper: would like to see it go forward but lower on the list of Google's current priorities
19:25:28 [bajones]
+1
19:25:37 [atsushi]
+1
19:25:38 [cabanier]
+1
19:25:41 [Ren]
+1
19:25:50 [bialpio]
+1
19:26:01 [Nick-8thWall]
ada: straw poll for promoting to a repo vs leaving as a proposal
19:26:49 [Nick-8thWall]
ada: Ok to make a repo for this, cabanier and alcooper as maintainers
19:28:00 [Nick-8thWall]
cabanier: would be interesting to discuss local save + restore of anchors
19:28:08 [Nick-8thWall]
q+
19:28:13 [bialpio]
Note: folks who look at the agenda to decide whether to join the call would miss out on this discussion.
19:28:24 [atsushi]
q+ for just for report, horizontal review requests are submitted for AR and gamepads module, hope to go CR around (or before) July
19:28:33 [ada]
ack Nick-8thWall
19:28:35 [bajones]
q+
19:29:13 [atsushi]
topic: AOB
19:29:19 [ada]
q+
19:29:34 [Nick-8thWall]
Nick-8thWall: What's the status of anchors in WebXR
19:29:46 [Nick-8thWall]
cabanier: They exist and they work well
19:29:54 [ada]
ack atsushi
19:29:54 [Zakim]
atsushi, you wanted to discuss just for report, horizontal review requests are submitted for AR and gamepads module, hope to go CR around (or before) July
19:30:28 [ada]
ack bajones
19:30:36 [Nick-8thWall]
atsushi: Sumbitted modules for CR, hope for review around July
19:31:40 [cabanier]
q+
19:31:55 [Nick-8thWall]
bajones: For api shape, may want to have a collection of anchors that are saved and restored together
19:32:07 [Nick-8thWall]
bajones: theoretical fingerprinting concern?
19:32:31 [Nick-8thWall]
q+
19:32:45 [cabanier]
q-
19:32:51 [ada]
ack ada
19:33:26 [Nick-8thWall]
ada: Is this any different from local storage and setting a cookie?
19:33:37 [Nick-8thWall]
bajones: Need to think about this some more.
19:33:39 [bialpio]
q+
19:34:28 [ada]
ack Nick-8thWall
19:34:33 [Nick-8thWall]
ada: Is this anchros level 2 or further work on current module? No preference.
19:35:28 [bialpio]
q-
19:36:24 [Nick-8thWall]
Nick-8thWall: difference from local storage is "I'm now at a place that I was before." Need to think through what that means.
19:36:42 [Nick-8thWall]
+1
19:36:44 [ada]
+1
19:36:45 [cabanier]
q+
19:36:46 [bajones]
+1
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+1
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q-
19:36:53 [atsushi]
+1
19:36:53 [Nick-8thWall]
ada: straw poll for is this a worthwhile effort
19:36:55 [bialpio]
+1
19:37:01 [alcooper]
+1
19:37:07 [Ren]
+1
19:37:20 [cabanier]
q+
19:37:38 [Nick-8thWall]
ada: Probably doesn't need to be level 2, can just be added in current spec.
19:37:39 [ada]
ack cabanier
19:38:09 [Nick-8thWall]
cabanier: additional opt in api, no breaking changes
19:39:38 [atsushi]
rrsagent, publish minutes v2
19:39:38 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/05/31-immersive-web-minutes.html atsushi
19:40:03 [yonet]
Thank you Atsushi