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19:08:13 <atsushi> rrsagent, make log public
19:08:17 <atsushi> rrsagent, draft minutes
19:08:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/05/31-immersive-web-minutes.html atsushi
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19:08:33 <atsushi> meeting: Immersive Web WG/CG call
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19:08:50 <atsushi> agenda: https://github.com/immersive-web/administrivia/blob/main/meetings/wg/2022-06-08-Immersive_Web_Working_Group_Teleconference-agenda.md
19:09:30 <ada> scribenick: Nick-8thWall
19:10:35 <Nick-8thWall> atsushi: For a new charter we need signoff from each wg participating organization. Please ask your AC rep to sign off.
19:11:17 <cwilso> https://www.w3.org/Member/ACList
19:11:56 <cwilso> ^^ that's the list of AC reps for each company
19:12:04 <yonet> https://github.com/immersive-web/proposals/issues/68
19:12:18 <atsushi> i/atsushi: For a new charter /topic: AC review on proposed charter
19:12:35 <atsushi> topic: proposal #68, XRCamera capture
19:12:50 <atsushi> rrsagent, draft minutes
19:12:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/05/31-immersive-web-minutes.html atsushi
19:14:19 <Nick-8thWall> alcooper: Progress - needs a non-google co-sponsor
19:14:48 <Nick-8thWall> alcooper: background: Intent is to allow google model viewer to mimic what apple's model viewer does
19:15:02 <atsushi> agenda: https://github.com/immersive-web/administrivia/blob/main/meetings/wg/2022-05-31-Immersive_Web_Working_Group_Teleconference-agenda.md
19:15:09 <ada> q?
19:15:55 <Nick-8thWall> alcooper: Meant to be a privacy preserving way to capture content, also find some way to do this on headset
19:16:47 <Nick-8thWall> alcooper: other alternatives (e.g. media streams) may not work well on headsets
19:17:19 <Nick-8thWall> q+
19:17:31 <ada> ack Nick-8thWall
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19:21:04 <alcooper> q+
19:21:11 <Nick-8thWall> Nick-8thWall: What are the use cases for headsets that would be compelling enough for a feature?
19:21:14 <ada> ack alcooper
19:22:21 <Nick-8thWall> Ada: Some people want a way to do this on headsets, have some hacky ways to do it involving encoding on device. A compelling feature would be to draw from a non-viewer camera.
19:22:39 <ada> q?
19:22:48 <Nick-8thWall> alcooper: Drawing from a non-viewer camera may be hard to support in existing runtimes on headsets.
19:23:55 <Nick-8thWall> cabanier: not a priority for oculus but maybe nice to have, could be more helpful in the world of passthrough
19:25:04 <Nick-8thWall> alcooper: would like to see it go forward but lower on the list of Google's current priorities
19:25:28 <bajones> +1
19:25:37 <atsushi> +1
19:25:38 <cabanier> +1
19:25:41 <Ren> +1
19:25:50 <bialpio> +1
19:26:01 <Nick-8thWall> ada: straw poll for promoting to a repo vs leaving as a proposal
19:26:49 <Nick-8thWall> ada: Ok to make a repo for this, cabanier and alcooper as maintainers
19:28:00 <Nick-8thWall> cabanier: would be interesting to discuss local save + restore of anchors
19:28:08 <Nick-8thWall> q+
19:28:13 <bialpio> Note: folks who look at the agenda to decide whether to join the call would miss out on this discussion.
19:28:24 <atsushi> q+ for just for report, horizontal review requests are submitted for AR and gamepads module, hope to go CR around (or before) July
19:28:33 <ada> ack Nick-8thWall
19:28:35 <bajones> q+
19:29:13 <atsushi> topic: AOB
19:29:19 <ada> q+
19:29:34 <Nick-8thWall> Nick-8thWall: What's the status of anchors in WebXR
19:29:46 <Nick-8thWall> cabanier: They exist and they work well
19:29:54 <ada> ack atsushi
19:29:54 <Zakim> atsushi, you wanted to discuss just for report, horizontal review requests are submitted for AR and gamepads module, hope to go CR around (or before) July
19:30:28 <ada> ack bajones
19:30:36 <Nick-8thWall> atsushi: Sumbitted modules for CR, hope for review around July
19:31:40 <cabanier> q+
19:31:55 <Nick-8thWall> bajones: For api shape, may want to have a collection of anchors that are saved and restored together
19:32:07 <Nick-8thWall> bajones: theoretical fingerprinting concern?
19:32:31 <Nick-8thWall> q+
19:32:45 <cabanier> q-
19:32:51 <ada> ack ada
19:33:26 <Nick-8thWall> ada: Is this any different from local storage and setting a cookie?
19:33:37 <Nick-8thWall> bajones: Need to think about this some more.
19:33:39 <bialpio> q+
19:34:28 <ada> ack Nick-8thWall
19:34:33 <Nick-8thWall> ada: Is this anchros level 2 or further work on current module? No preference.
19:35:28 <bialpio> q-
19:36:24 <Nick-8thWall> Nick-8thWall: difference from local storage is "I'm now at a place that I was before." Need to think through what that means.
19:36:42 <Nick-8thWall> +1
19:36:44 <ada> +1
19:36:45 <cabanier> q+
19:36:46 <bajones> +1
19:36:48 <cabanier> +1
19:36:49 <cabanier> q-
19:36:53 <atsushi> +1
19:36:53 <Nick-8thWall> ada: straw poll for is this a worthwhile effort
19:36:55 <bialpio> +1
19:37:01 <alcooper> +1
19:37:07 <Ren> +1
19:37:20 <cabanier> q+
19:37:38 <Nick-8thWall> ada: Probably doesn't need to be level 2, can just be added in current spec.
19:37:39 <ada> ack cabanier
19:38:09 <Nick-8thWall> cabanier: additional opt in api, no breaking changes
19:39:38 <atsushi> rrsagent, publish minutes v2
19:39:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/05/31-immersive-web-minutes.html atsushi
19:40:03 <yonet> Thank you Atsushi