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11:54:51 <xfq> Meeting: MiniApps WG Teleconference
11:54:57 <xfq> present+ xfq, dan
11:55:04 <xfq> chair: dan
11:55:07 <xfq> scribe: xfq
11:55:11 <xfq> rrsagent, make log public
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11:59:08 <xfq> present+ qing
11:59:23 <xfq> present+ xiaoqian
11:59:45 <xfq> present+ zitao
12:00:47 <xfq> present+ xiaoping_zhao
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12:02:08 <xfq> dan: lifecycle
12:02:35 <xfq> qing: prepare wide review
12:02:59 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-lifecycle/pull/19
12:03:48 <xfq> [qing describes the PR]
12:04:33 <xfq> dan: I don't quite understand
12:04:53 <xfq> ... what data is destroyed? inputted query?
12:05:12 <xfq> ... how does the user remove the query?
12:05:28 <xfq> qing: the user can delete the miniapp
12:05:55 <xfq> ... the associated data will also be deleted
12:06:54 <xfq> dan: the data is just js variable
12:06:59 <xfq> ... runtime data
12:09:25 <xfq> xfq: We can write that we don't store these data, they are just in memory, not in the filesystem
12:09:35 <xfq> s/we/miniapps/
12:09:56 <xfq> dan: another thing related to lifecycle
12:10:51 <xfq> ... Developers should not write sensitive information into the query when jumping from one page to another, otherwise the next page will get this information, similar to urls in the web
12:12:17 <xiaoqian> xfq: I raised a few other issues related to horizontal review
12:12:24 <xiaoqian> dan: let's check...
12:12:42 <xiaoqian> qing: I'm not sure there would be any WAI issues
12:12:51 <xiaoqian> scribe+ xiaoqian
12:13:25 <xiaoqian> xfq: it's ok to say there aren't any WAI issues
12:13:32 <xiaoqian> ... I raised two PRs
12:15:13 <xiaoqian> qing: how can I answer these questionaires?
12:15:51 <xiaoqian> xfq: I already answer the questionnaires in the PR
12:15:54 <xfq> present+ manvi_kapoor
12:16:35 <xiaoqian> qing: issue #24
12:16:43 <xiaoqian> ... it seems optional
12:17:28 <xiaoqian> ... is it ok to add a note for it?
12:17:46 <xiaoqian> xfq: I was wondering whether it can contain natural language string
12:18:11 <xiaoqian> qing: ok, understand, I'll answer on GitHub
12:18:29 <xiaoqian> ... I'll go back to that later
12:19:50 <xiaoqian> qing: issue#25
12:20:03 <xiaoqian> ... need some time to learn about the requirements
12:20:11 <xiaoqian> ... will look into it after the meeting
12:20:26 <xiaoqian> ... that's I want to share today
12:20:35 <xiaoqian> ... I have some homework to do :)
12:21:36 <xfq> dan: manifest
12:21:48 <xfq> zitao: #4
12:22:15 <xfq> ... pwa proposed a solution
12:22:49 <xfq> ... #51
12:22:55 <xfq> ... security and privacy review
12:24:17 <xfq> topic: testing
12:24:33 <xfq> zitao: martin and I proposed a testing plan
12:25:24 <xfq> ... similar to epub
12:26:24 <xfq> ... maybe we can create an open-source project in some foundation to do the testing work
12:29:43 <xfq> dan: just like we need web apps to test browsers
12:29:53 <xfq> ... we need MiniApps to test MiniApp impls
12:30:28 <xfq> zitao: @@
12:31:07 <xfq> ... we can create a project in the open atom foundation or some other foundation and call for volunteers to write example miniapps
12:31:47 <xfq> dan: https://developers.weixin.qq.com/miniprogram/dev/devtools/auto/
12:31:53 <xfq> ... https://www.npmjs.com/package/smartapp-cts
12:32:07 <xfq> ... ^ don't know if it's useful or not
12:33:00 <xfq> zitao: looks good
12:33:07 <xfq> ... we can try to do some analysis about this
12:33:21 <xfq> ... are they open-source projects?
12:33:24 <xfq> dan: not sure
12:33:45 <xfq> zitao: we can find a special time to talk about this
12:34:56 <xiaoqian> xfq: yes, good starting point
12:35:18 <xfq> topic: packaging
12:36:50 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-packaging/issues/48
12:38:00 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-packaging/issues/54
12:39:10 <xiaoqian> xfq: I've review the P&S section PR
12:39:13 <xiaoqian> ... LGTM
12:40:23 <xfq> dan: addressing
12:40:49 <xfq> ... was on vacation, need more time for #9
12:41:42 <xfq> ... about #6, I have edited it, so maybe Xiaoping or someone from Xiaomi and have a look at it
12:42:20 <xfq> ... https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-addressing/issues/1 will update it after the meeting
12:42:25 <xfq> dan: widgets
12:42:56 <xfq> xiaoping: planning to introduce widget progress in the next meeting, nothing to share today
12:43:25 <xfq> dan: ui componenets?
12:43:44 <xfq> zitao: no update today
12:43:53 <xfq> ... hope to have some update next month
12:44:36 <xfq> dan: iot
12:44:39 <xfq> qing: no update
12:45:08 <xfq> topic: aob
12:46:08 <xfq> cg meeting june 23, wg meeting june 30
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