IRC log of forms on 2022-05-13

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Meeting: XForms Users Community Group Teleconference

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Date: 13 May 2022

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Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2022May/0002

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Chair: Steven

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Previous Meeting: https://www.w3.org/2022/04/22-forms-minutes

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Topic: ACTION-2315: Report on event handling in web components (Erik)

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https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2022Jan/0020

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Erik: Continues

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Topic: ACTION-2322: Summarise the submit/done/error response-body issues

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(Erik)

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https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2022May/0001

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Erik: Going back to xforms-submit-ready event

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... as an alternative to using an echo:... scheme

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... the submission does a lot of work normally, so depending on what's coming back, it may convert to xml,

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... and storing the result in an instance somewhere

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... so simulating an echo is a lot of work

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... not a show stopper in itself.

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Steven: Aren't we only interested in what we send?

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Erik: It depends on what you are trying to do.

14:04:50 [Steven]

Steven so going back to: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2022Apr/att-0005/00-part

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Steven: So I see we have three options. 1) and echo: scheme and not registered

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... 2) scheme and registered, which is work

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... 3) submit-ready

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Alain: I think that submit-ready gives us the functionality we want and so much more.

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... Can you live with submit-ready Eik?

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14:08:01 [Steven]

Erik: Sure

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Action: To write spec text for xforms-submit-ready

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14:08:44 [Steven]

Action: Alain to write spec text for xforms-submit-ready

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Created ACTION-2323 - Write spec text for xforms-submit-ready [on Alain Couthures - due 2022-05-20].

14:09:52 [Steven]

Topic: ACTION-2321: Propose text for a <cancel/> action (Steven)

14:09:54 [Steven]

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2022May/0003.html

14:10:50 [Steven]

Steven: It wass pretty easy.

14:10:54 [Steven]

Erik: Sounds simple

14:11:02 [Steven]

Alain: OK

14:11:10 [Steven]

ACTION: Steven to put cancel action in spec

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Created ACTION-2324 - Put cancel action in spec [on Steven Pemberton - due 2022-05-20].

14:11:34 [Steven]

Topic: ACTION-2313: Research the alternatives for 'dirty' data, and produce

14:11:34 [Steven]

code in all of them for comparison (Steven)

14:11:34 [Steven]

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2022Jan/0012

14:11:34 [Steven]

(Was: Detecting/Ignoring unsaved data

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https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2022Jan/0008)

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Steven: Continues

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Topic: AOB

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Steven: Both my submissions got accepted for XML Prageu

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Steven: Declarative.amsterdam is beginning of November, hybrid

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... call for papers next week.

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Steven: My talk at CHI included XFOrms, and was positively received.

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Steven: No call next week

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Present: Alain, Erik, Steven

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