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12:03:08 <kaz> meeting: WoT-IG/WG
12:03:14 <kaz> chair: McCool
12:03:20 <kaz> regrets+ Sebastian
12:03:34 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Kunihiko_Toumura
12:04:59 <kaz> present+ Daniel_Peintner, Tetsushi_Matsuda
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12:08:13 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
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12:13:08 <kaz> topic: Minutes
12:13:17 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2022/05/04-wot-minutes.html May-4
12:13:34 <kaz> mm: minor fix about the next steps for DTDL liaison
12:14:20 <kaz> ... some minor typos as well
12:14:24 <kaz> (fixed)
12:14:33 <kaz> present+ Michael_Lagally, Ryuichi_Matsukura
12:15:27 <kaz> ml: should invite Erich again for further discussion
12:15:42 <kaz> kaz: let's continue to talk with him including Sebastian
12:16:22 <kaz> mm: leave it as you guys (Sebastian and Lagally) would handle
12:16:51 <kaz> ... any other changes?
12:16:55 <kaz> (none)
12:16:58 <kaz> approved
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12:17:30 <kaz> regrets+ Ege
12:17:35 <kaz> scribenick: mlagally
12:17:39 <mlagally> topic: quick updates
12:18:14 <mlagally> 1. cancellations: editor's call was moved to use cases slot on alternate weeks, calendar and WebEx were updated
12:18:28 <mlagally> ... please update your calendar
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12:18:59 <kaz> i|1. c|-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Cancellations_and_Schedule_Updates cancellations and Schedule Updates|
12:19:29 <dape> q+
12:19:40 <mlagally> ... I propose we cancel for another 2 months
12:20:01 <kaz> ack d
12:20:03 <kaz> q+
12:20:24 <mlagally> ml: suggest to do it on-demand for DTDL or similar topics
12:20:37 <mlagally> dape: need to update Website
12:21:30 <mlagally> mmc: Editors's call biweekly, only if necessary
12:22:06 <mlagally> ... we could try to do it on the main call and if it overflows continue in the editor's call
12:22:41 <mlagally> ... We have to cleanup the Webpage to be consistent
12:22:51 <kaz> i|need to update|-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/activities/meetings/ Web Conference Meetings page|
12:23:36 <mlagally> kaz: use cases call should be held on time to time, based on demand
12:24:20 <kaz> s/on time/from time/
12:24:31 <kaz> ack k
12:24:33 <mlagally> ... Japanese CG has been working with Echonet and other organisations - there will be corresponding use cases soon
12:24:44 <mlagally> mmc: let's do on demand
12:25:11 <mlagally> kaz: Japanese CG will probably have new use cases soon
12:25:18 <mlagally> ... will give a heads up
12:26:13 <mlagally> 2. JP members meeting on May 18th conflicts with WoT calls, Kaz is unavailable
12:26:36 <mlagally> ... Chairs are responsible to capture the minutes
12:26:48 <mlagally> kaz: Please also try the host key
12:26:56 <mlagally> mmc: did not work for me
12:27:21 <mlagally> .. may need to log in as a dedicated user?
12:27:56 <mlagally> ... Kaz, can you please check
12:28:21 <mlagally> kaz: Let's try after this call
12:28:26 <mlagally> mmc: ok
12:28:51 <dape> -> https://events.geekle.us/nodejs/
12:29:38 <dape> s/-> https://events.geekle.us/nodejs/
12:29:40 <mlagally> ... can you please add a link to the japanese member meeting
12:29:58 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2022/05/18-jp-meeting/ JP member meeting
12:30:51 <mlagally> kaz: this is a members-only meeting
12:31:18 <mlagally> mmc: there was a work meeting on digital twins in the t2trg
12:32:25 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:32:48 <mlagally> (mmc does cancellations for editors and use cases)
12:32:49 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:32:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/05/11-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:32:56 <mlagally> topic: ongoing AIs
12:33:14 <mlagally> 1. wide review
12:33:32 <mlagally> ... we reviwed and merged accessibility questionnaire in architecture
12:33:41 <kaz> i/May-4/minor fix about/scribenick: kaz/
12:34:00 <mlagally> ... I fixed a small typo
12:34:08 <kaz> i/cancellations and Schedule Updates/subtopic: Cancellations and Schedule Updates/
12:34:18 <dape> q+
12:34:31 <kaz> i/2. JP members meeting /subtopic: JP Members meeting/
12:34:38 <mlagally> ... we are waiting for accessibility review
12:35:09 <kaz> i/there was a work/subtopic: T2TRG work meeting on digital twins/
12:35:11 <mlagally> dape: for accessibility perhaps just update the link
12:36:13 <kaz> i|there was a work|-> https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-interim-2022-t2trg-02-t2trg T2TRG work meeting on Digital Twins|
12:36:28 <McCool_> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/23
12:36:36 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:36:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/05/11-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:36:43 <McCool_> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Ongoing_Action_Items
12:36:56 <mlagally> ... we will discuss/finalize in tomorrow's arch call
12:37:17 <mlagally> ... I'm keeping the status up to date on the Wiki
12:37:33 <mlagally> ... we are good to go on Architecture
12:38:16 <kaz> i|mm does cancell|subtopic: Calendar updates|
12:38:29 <kaz> i/1. wide review/subtopic: Wide reviews/
12:38:39 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:38:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/05/11-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:39:28 <mlagally> ... Profile expplainer draft is available in a PR
12:39:47 <mlagally> topic: schedule review
12:40:26 <mlagally> ... since there's no TD call this week, have we published a TD candidate yet?
12:40:31 <mlagally> kaz: don't think so
12:40:38 <mlagally> mmc: we are behind schedule
12:40:47 <mlagally> kaz: perhaps by next week?
12:41:02 <mlagally> mmc: CR candidate would be a WD publication
12:41:38 <mlagally> ... suggest to start the review of the TD today on the editors draft
12:41:51 <mlagally> ... we have to update the schedule accordingly
12:42:04 <mlagally> ... CR transition is end of May (at the best)
12:42:17 <mlagally> ... I just created a PR for security on requiring TLS
12:42:27 <mlagally> .. also addressing PING feedback
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12:42:58 <mlagally> ... I have a new PR in architecture for security - it introduces a few normiative assertions
12:43:08 <mlagally> s/normi/norm/
12:43:31 <mlagally> topic: testing
12:43:52 <mlagally> ... we have not updated the TD implementation report with the TDs from the last cycle
12:44:12 <mlagally> ... we should update the scripts, I hope Ege can do that
12:44:13 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:44:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/05/11-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:44:40 <kaz> i|mmc does cancell|subtopic: Calendar updates|
12:44:40 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:44:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/05/11-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:44:42 <mlagally> ... we need manual assertions
12:44:59 <mlagally> ... implementation descriptions need to be updated
12:45:12 <mlagally> ... we can discuss more in the testing call
12:45:58 <kaz> i|Profile exp|subtopic: Explainer/
12:46:04 <mlagally> ... another testfest is planned for June 6-10
12:46:30 <kaz> s|Explainer/|Explainer|
12:46:35 <kaz> s/expp/exp/
12:46:55 <mlagally> ... I we have some new TDs, also for directories with a lot of test points
12:47:05 <kaz> i|since there's|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/charters/wg-2021-extension-plan.md updated plan|
12:47:23 <mlagally> ml: where are they stored?
12:47:49 <mlagally> mmc: in the directory of the previous plug fest
12:48:07 <mlagally> ... will move to the new directory at some point
12:48:26 <kaz> i|we have not updated the|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/tree/main/events/2022.06.Online 2022 June Testfest|
12:48:37 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:48:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/05/11-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:48:47 <mlagally> ... TiniIoT is a fork from Linksmart
12:49:09 <mlagally> topic: charter extension and renewals
12:49:26 <mlagally> kaz: we finally got approval from W3M for AC review of WG extension
12:49:42 <mlagally> ... updated the draft charter based on W3M comments
12:50:09 <mlagally> ... unfortunately the extension period will end by the end of this month
12:50:23 <mlagally> ... we should ask for 2 more months
12:50:42 <mlagally> mmc: new charter will be discussed later
12:50:49 <mlagally> topic: liaisons
12:50:54 <kaz> i|we finally|-> https://w3c.github.io/wot/charters/wot-wg-2022-ext.html draft WG Charter|
12:50:57 <kaz> q+
12:51:00 <kaz> ack d
12:51:10 <dape> ack dape
12:51:33 <kaz> ack k
12:51:52 <mlagally> kaZ: how to handle units is one of the topics for interop. Would like to talk together with Muzushima-san with IEC
12:52:26 <mlagally> ... we still have internal discussions with IEC
12:52:44 <mlagally> s/IEC/IEC about units/
12:54:43 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:54:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/05/11-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:55:02 <mlagally> mmc: there was a OneDM discussion in t2trg
12:55:12 <kaz> s/kaZ:/kaz:/
12:55:22 <kaz> i/how to handle/subtopic: IEC CDD/
12:55:24 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:55:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/05/11-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:55:38 <mlagally> mmc: at some point will tak with Home Assistant + EdgeX foundry.
12:55:52 <mlagally> topic: Collaborations
12:57:01 <mlagally> mmc: if there are further links, we could add to the Wiki
12:57:12 <mlagally> ... please update
12:57:17 <kaz> q+
12:57:43 <kaz> ack k
12:58:03 <mlagally> ... There was a lot of discussion in the Marketing call
12:58:12 <kaz> i|if there are|-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Collaborations Collaborations|
12:58:13 <mlagally> ... charters, ...
12:58:29 <mlagally> ... these will be finalized + closed next week
12:58:49 <kaz> i|how to handle units|-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Liaisons Liaisons|
12:58:59 <kaz> topic: TF reports
12:59:03 <kaz> subtopic: Profile
12:59:17 <kaz> ml: making significant progress about the Explainer for Profile
12:59:43 <kaz> ... if you want to interested in implementing Profile, please join the call and also let me know
13:00:02 <kaz> mm: reminded me we should finalize the assertion work as well
13:00:11 <kaz> subtopic: Security
13:00:19 <kaz> mm: the other critical thing is Security
13:00:24 <McCool_> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/747
13:00:36 <kaz> s/https/-> https/
13:00:55 <kaz> s/747/747 wot-security PR 747 - Additional Security/Privacy Considerations around TLS, access controls for PII|
13:01:02 <kaz> s/PII|/PII/
13:01:14 <kaz> mm: when to use TLS is a question
13:01:26 <kaz> ... but should require for public networks
13:01:44 <kaz> i/making sig/scribenick: kaz/
13:01:57 <kaz> ... guidelines here on the PR 747
13:02:02 <kaz> ... please take a look
13:02:16 <mlagally> topic: AOB?
13:02:19 <mlagally> none
13:02:46 <kaz> [main call adjourned]
13:02:53 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:02:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/05/11-wot-minutes.html kaz
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