W3C

– DRAFT –
Publishing CG

11 May 2022

Attendees

Present
AlexGrover, Bill_Kasdorf_, gpellegrino, Naomi, tzviya, wolfgang, zheng_xu
Regrets
-
Chair
zheng_xu
Scribe
wolfgang, zheng_xu

Meeting minutes

<tzviya> Date: 2022-05-11

wolfgang: last meeting AvneeshSingh had mentioned about a11y metadata (summary)
… and talked about pub manifest. Matieus introduced about how Norton was using pub manifest
… which could be used along side with epub
… and we started to discuss about education - try to organize a group to define use cases

Topic 2: A11Y TF update

Avneesh: high level aim in last meeting - intend to write a guidance doc for accessibility summary + extend metadata to ONIX + Marc

<AvneeshSingh> https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/drafts/schema-a11y-summary/

charlesL: looking for publisher feedback - working with industry what is beneficial here - what can be automatically generated

<AvneeshSingh> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Lh0TwYHg574WFvdIAB1-Pns3fF7oSCjD/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=110044170227731414177&rtpof=true&sd=true

charlesL: what does the publisher want to highlight - detect more features that is already extant in the product - no place to put down this info up to now

Avneesh: MARC metadata - use Google docs to make it easier

Tzviya: what is automatable? - you should talk to users, not only publishers - I would like to reach out to users - recommend users' outreach

Topic 3: Education

idea to collect more use cases to know more - any idea how we can started -

BillK: I did contact Paul Belfante - he is an independent consultant - did agree to chair the TF - Bill wants to arrange a call with Paul what his tasks as chair of a TF would be - orientation call with Paul
… open to anybody else

Tzviya: my suggestion was not to create sth. exclusively for education - EDUPUB was a disaster - Manifest has many interesting use cases, as Mateus described - a lot of it is already happening, also at Wiley

<Zakim> tzviya, you wanted to talk more about what I was suggesting for manifest

Tzviya: people have e-books and courseware - now offering an epub and at the same time an interactive web experience (quizzes, assessments) which is not EPUB - we need to understand what holds that together

BillK: not about EDUPUB or solutions, but user stories - what would education community want to do with the Web - just accumluate a wealth of user stories

Zheng: we collect use cases - know more about situation in the publishing industry - find common value for different platforms - not necessarily in EPUB-format

BillK: Paul's expertise is edtech -

(4) Planning for TPAC 2022: Call for members’ proposals/suggestions for topics

zheng: any suggestions? we have no experience with technical logistics?

Tzviya: TPAC will be hybrid - plan to accommodate time zones in their schedules - it's open whether anybody from our CG will be able to attend in person and whether it is worthwhile for the group

Avneesh: real use of TPAC is cross-group meetings - if we need more discussion with other groups, TPAC will be useful for us

tzviya: many members this year may have time zone problems -

zheng: can we arrange for virtual rooms?

tzviya: if virtual meeting, better choose another week

CharlesL: meeting with Pub WG would make sense - they might have some ideas to share with us - ask Dave and Wendy - CharlesL plans to attend in person

Zheng: how many plan to attend in person?

<AvneeshSingh> Just 30% chance for me.

<Zakim> tzviya, you wanted to say that meeting with PCG should not wait until tpac

Tzviya: meeting Pub WG is a great idea, but should not be postponed until TPAC - WG charter runs out in a year

Avneesh: TPAC would be late if you propose sth for new WG charter - we should start incubation work now as a basis for further WG activities

Zheng: we probably don't need a physical meeting room at Vancouver

CharlesL: we don't need a physical room - more informal meetings - official session requires an agenda - happy to meet others

Zheng: can co-chairs do anything to support CG members? We don't book any physical meeting room for TPAC. If any CG member, attends in person, it would be great if s/he gave us feedback on relevant information
… plan: meeting with WG for next month

tzviya: you need some conceptual development, use cases, tests before you start with spec work - it would be good to have an active WG - mini-apps, Pub Manifest, etc. -
… or extending existings specs relatively easy charter while NFT is rather difficult to charter

zheng: are our use cases in issues repo relevant for WG? Annotation spec: would it make sense to extend it - in the detail it is difficult to implement -
… we have a use case label in our repo

tzviya: members should have a look at the repo and add their thoughts and ideas to the issues labelled as use cases

Use cases and extant applications of Web Publishing

zheng: are there further examples for use cases? converted XML to JSON manifest - used it for my test book - my platform is a web reader - I will write it down as an issue in our repo

Discuss open Github issues: “Highlights, Notes, Comments, and Annotations #32”

zheng: any comment on this? - how to tackle this large issue? -
… Proposal of Locator TF in repo as #30

Decision: arrange a meeting with Paul Belfanti

ACTION: item: more use cases for Friday session

no physical meeting room reservation at TPAC

Summary of action items

  1. item: more use cases for Friday session
Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 185 (Thu Dec 2 18:51:55 2021 UTC).

Diagnostics

Succeeded: s/intact/edtech

Maybe present: Avneesh, BillK, charlesL, Decision, Zheng