Meeting minutes
<tzviya> Date: 2022-05-11
wolfgang: last meeting AvneeshSingh had mentioned about a11y metadata (summary)
… and talked about pub manifest. Matieus introduced about how Norton was using pub manifest
… which could be used along side with epub
… and we started to discuss about education - try to organize a group to define use cases
Topic 2: A11Y TF update
Avneesh: high level aim in last meeting - intend to write a guidance doc for accessibility summary + extend metadata to ONIX + Marc
<AvneeshSingh> https://
charlesL: looking for publisher feedback - working with industry what is beneficial here - what can be automatically generated
<AvneeshSingh> https://
charlesL: what does the publisher want to highlight - detect more features that is already extant in the product - no place to put down this info up to now
Avneesh: MARC metadata - use Google docs to make it easier
Tzviya: what is automatable? - you should talk to users, not only publishers - I would like to reach out to users - recommend users' outreach
Topic 3: Education
idea to collect more use cases to know more - any idea how we can started -
BillK: I did contact Paul Belfante - he is an independent consultant - did agree to chair the TF - Bill wants to arrange a call with Paul what his tasks as chair of a TF would be - orientation call with Paul
… open to anybody else
Tzviya: my suggestion was not to create sth. exclusively for education - EDUPUB was a disaster - Manifest has many interesting use cases, as Mateus described - a lot of it is already happening, also at Wiley
<Zakim> tzviya, you wanted to talk more about what I was suggesting for manifest
Tzviya: people have e-books and courseware - now offering an epub and at the same time an interactive web experience (quizzes, assessments) which is not EPUB - we need to understand what holds that together
BillK: not about EDUPUB or solutions, but user stories - what would education community want to do with the Web - just accumluate a wealth of user stories
Zheng: we collect use cases - know more about situation in the publishing industry - find common value for different platforms - not necessarily in EPUB-format
BillK: Paul's expertise is edtech -
(4) Planning for TPAC 2022: Call for members’ proposals/suggestions for topics
zheng: any suggestions? we have no experience with technical logistics?
Tzviya: TPAC will be hybrid - plan to accommodate time zones in their schedules - it's open whether anybody from our CG will be able to attend in person and whether it is worthwhile for the group
Avneesh: real use of TPAC is cross-group meetings - if we need more discussion with other groups, TPAC will be useful for us
tzviya: many members this year may have time zone problems -
zheng: can we arrange for virtual rooms?
tzviya: if virtual meeting, better choose another week
CharlesL: meeting with Pub WG would make sense - they might have some ideas to share with us - ask Dave and Wendy - CharlesL plans to attend in person
Zheng: how many plan to attend in person?
<AvneeshSingh> Just 30% chance for me.
<Zakim> tzviya, you wanted to say that meeting with PCG should not wait until tpac
Tzviya: meeting Pub WG is a great idea, but should not be postponed until TPAC - WG charter runs out in a year
Avneesh: TPAC would be late if you propose sth for new WG charter - we should start incubation work now as a basis for further WG activities
Zheng: we probably don't need a physical meeting room at Vancouver
CharlesL: we don't need a physical room - more informal meetings - official session requires an agenda - happy to meet others
Zheng: can co-chairs do anything to support CG members? We don't book any physical meeting room for TPAC. If any CG member, attends in person, it would be great if s/he gave us feedback on relevant information
… plan: meeting with WG for next month
tzviya: you need some conceptual development, use cases, tests before you start with spec work - it would be good to have an active WG - mini-apps, Pub Manifest, etc. -
… or extending existings specs relatively easy charter while NFT is rather difficult to charter
zheng: are our use cases in issues repo relevant for WG? Annotation spec: would it make sense to extend it - in the detail it is difficult to implement -
… we have a use case label in our repo
tzviya: members should have a look at the repo and add their thoughts and ideas to the issues labelled as use cases
Use cases and extant applications of Web Publishing
zheng: are there further examples for use cases? converted XML to JSON manifest - used it for my test book - my platform is a web reader - I will write it down as an issue in our repo
Discuss open Github issues: “Highlights, Notes, Comments, and Annotations #32”
zheng: any comment on this? - how to tackle this large issue? -
… Proposal of Locator TF in repo as #30
Decision: arrange a meeting with Paul Belfanti
ACTION: item: more use cases for Friday session
no physical meeting room reservation at TPAC