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11:00:43 <kaz> meeting: WoT Marketing
11:01:20 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Ege_Korkan, Michael_McCool
11:01:24 <kaz> chair: Ege
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11:05:21 <kaz> present+ Daniel_Peintner
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11:05:58 <cris> topic: minutes
11:06:01 <Ege> https://www.w3.org/2022/04/26-wot-marketing-minutes.html
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11:06:20 <cris> ege: talked about panel AC presentation
11:06:29 <cris> ... then about CG charter draft
11:07:09 <cris> ... we discussed also about PR 309
11:07:16 <cris> ... we have an update for it today
11:07:28 <cris> ... minutes looks good, but there's a typo
11:08:44 <cris> kaz: fixed
11:08:49 <cris> ege: minutes approved
11:08:59 <cris> topic: Pull requests
11:09:21 <cris> ege: skipping CG charter discussion now since it is going to be long
11:09:39 <cris> subtopic: PR 314
11:09:42 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/314
11:09:46 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/308
11:09:48 <cris> ege: daniel fixed issue 308
11:09:59 <cris> ... looks good to me
11:10:11 <cris> ... it adds a link to the main call agenda
11:10:14 <cris> ... any remarks?
11:10:30 <cris> ... ok then PR merged and issue closed
11:10:41 <cris> subtopic: PR 309
11:10:47 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/309
11:10:52 <cris> ege: a new way to organize tools
11:10:58 <cris> ... it is better organized
11:11:11 <cris> ... with icons in a grid layout
11:12:30 <cris> ... for the future
11:12:45 <cris> ... I want to add labels next to tool name
11:12:55 <cris> mc: one comment to the look
11:12:58 <dape> q+
11:12:59 <cris> ... hard to read
11:13:02 <cris> q+
11:13:37 <cris> ... the subtitle is better short
11:13:44 <cris> ... one liner?
11:14:03 <cris> ... and the long text might be put after the link
11:15:16 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
11:15:17 <cris> dape: I have a similar question
11:15:21 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:15:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/05/03-wot-marketing-minutes.html kaz
11:15:22 <kaz> q?
11:15:24 <kaz> ack d
11:16:06 <cris> ... this page is not consistent to the content of the other pages
11:16:22 <cris> ... it does not have an intial heading or paragraph
11:16:37 <cris> mc: maybe a simple text introducing the page
11:18:22 <dape> ack dape
11:19:23 <cris> cris: I would just give a little bit more of withespace between icons and the list
11:19:25 <cris> ack c
11:19:42 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/charter-drafts/pull/392
11:19:44 <cris> subtopic: PR 392
11:19:46 <Ege> q?
11:20:10 <cris> ege: I published the CG charter proposal in the right repository
11:20:39 <Ege> https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/egekorkan/charter-drafts/blob/gh-pages/2022/wot-cg-2022.html
11:21:11 <cris> ... quite basic charter description
11:21:34 <cris> ... I reviewed Japanese CG too
11:22:06 <cris> ... we should focus on goals and scope of work
11:22:42 <cris> ... open points: dependencies with no w3c group? contribution mechanics
11:23:10 <kaz> s/subtopic: PR 392//
11:23:17 <kaz> i|pull/392|subtopic: PR 392|
11:23:24 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:23:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/05/03-wot-marketing-minutes.html kaz
11:23:26 <kaz> q+
11:23:40 <cris> mc: the first line should be more around community instead of WoT
11:23:46 <cris> ege: I agree
11:23:49 <cris> cris: +1
11:24:17 <cris> mc: then we can talk about the activities
11:24:48 <Ege> q?
11:24:56 <cris> kaz: quick comment
11:25:29 <cris> ... it depends on the policy but it might be easier to concentrate to one specific section and discuss it in one call
11:25:51 <cris> ege: understood
11:26:09 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/314|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/314 refactor: mention and link main wiki/call|
11:26:20 <cris> ... we can create issues for specific charter in the repository linked above
11:26:44 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/308|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/308 Issue 308 - Linking to the Main Call Wiki|
11:26:48 <cris> ... also the charter will be reviewed by the community as regulated
11:26:56 <kaz> s/314 refactor/314 PR 314 - refactor/
11:26:57 <cris> ... any other remarks?
11:27:14 <cris> q+
11:27:27 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/309|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/309 PR 309 - Add new tool organization|
11:27:28 <kaz> q-
11:27:38 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:27:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/05/03-wot-marketing-minutes.html kaz
11:28:19 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/charter-drafts/pull/392|-> https://github.com/w3c/charter-drafts/pull/392 PR 392 - [wot] First draft of the CG charter|
11:28:30 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:28:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/05/03-wot-marketing-minutes.html kaz
11:28:57 <cris> cris: maybe we can use the issues to talk about the problems that we pinpointed in the document
11:28:58 <kaz> s/concentrate to/concentrate on/
11:30:05 <cris> ege: yeah for example the chair selection is not clear
11:30:18 <cris> mc: I agree we should choose one mode or the other
11:30:53 <cris> ... also we should think better about the process
11:31:13 <cris> ... we need to make sure that it is airtight
11:31:43 <cris> ... what happens if there are no 5 people? or if there is only people from one organization?
11:34:41 <cris> ege: kaz do you know if can change that part of the charter?
11:35:26 <cris> kaz: it was not meant to be changed but if there is room for improvement
11:35:38 <cris> s/if//
11:36:03 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/charter-drafts/issues/393
11:36:34 <cris> kaz: community group is quite large already right?
11:36:42 <cris> ege: yeah yesterday we got a new member
11:37:04 <cris> ... btw I'm also opening a new issue about contribution mechanics
11:40:41 <cris> cris: maybe the contribution section should contain more informative text about how people can operate within the group
11:41:01 <cris> ege: I think this is going to be the first issue of our own group
11:41:21 <cris> cris: yeah just remember that to update the charter we should follow a long process...
11:41:46 <cris> ... on the other hand, I agree with you that is too early to decide how people can contribute
11:41:51 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/charter-drafts/issues/394
11:42:26 <cris> topic: issues
11:43:10 <cris> ege: we have three issues open about collaboration with the CG
11:43:10 <kaz> q+
11:43:14 <cris> ack c
11:43:27 <cris> cris: I think we can move the discussion to the charter document
11:44:13 <kaz> ack k
11:44:22 <cris> kaz: the charter is important but you should clarify first your expectation as chairs
11:44:26 <Mizushima> +1 kaz
11:44:39 <cris> ... then write the charter
11:44:50 <cris> ... have you talked with Jacob for the repository ?
11:44:54 <cris> ege: not yet but I will
11:45:20 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-cg
11:45:26 <cris> ... what the name should be?
11:45:34 <cris> cris: +1 looks good
11:45:40 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-community
11:45:52 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-community-group
11:47:45 <cris> https://github.com/w3c/web-thing-protocol
11:48:46 <cris> subtopic: issue 305
11:48:52 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/305
11:49:02 <cris> ege: we should target these conferences
11:49:17 <cris> ... who is going to present? and what?
11:50:26 <cris> ... I was thinking about discovery
11:51:01 <cris> cris: seems a good idea
11:51:05 <cris> ege: aob ?
11:51:28 <cris> ... ok meeting adjourned
11:51:40 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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11:51:45 <kaz> [adjourned]
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