Meeting minutes
FAST restructure
<MichaelC> https://
<MichaelC> https://
New FAST update
MC: I've got a new branch
https://
MC: <gives overview of new FAST>
MC: It would be great if we could agree to merge this
MC: Here is a list of what I've done in the PR https://
MC: I'd like to get the Matrix into this doc in some form
MC: Even a screenshot etc to identify how we are working
MC: I put the terms inline
Definitions here https://
MC: Discusses various layers
MC: I'd like input on what should be changed before merging?
JOC: Really happy to see this progress.
Todd: Also happy
Jake: Happy to merge
RESOLUTION: Merging of MC branch approved
MC: We can work on this in the future
If this doc is a source of truth now, anything from the Google docs will have to be reflected or we work from this.
JOC: Would this be people logging PRs etc?
MC: Yeah, or issues
Editing via PRs etc - that can be forced in the repository
JOC: The Google sheet bit has worked ok, what do you think?
JA: Is the question if we have a sketch version somewhere, then its not scattered around.
JA: To experiement on the matrix we will work further on the Google Sheet document
MC: We need to manage change tracking.
JA: AFAIK, tracking of changes in spreadsheets is available.
<Discussion on tools formats>
MC: We could establish a convention where we use an asterisk to show when content is ready to migrate
We could great a working sheet for mappings that is less of a matrix
MC: <Discusses ideas>
Columns for user need, functional needs etc
They can be dynamically linked - flat list of outcomes that say how they relate and we generate the matrix from that
Don't know how to do that the opposite way
Each outcome needs to be its own cell.
JOC: Could we get it as CSV?
MC: Yeah
JOC: We can stick with Sheets for now.
MC: We need an editing environment that works
JOC: And is accessible
MC: Sheets can be our scratchpad - asterisks can keep us in sync.
MC: Thats all I've done
JOC: Good stuff
MC: Regarding the functioning of the group - we are now on APA
Todd has approval
work mode
<MichaelC> https://
MC: We are all in APA
MC: DIscusses leadership, COGA and A11y for Children
Deceptive Patterns
JOC: Lets continue from To be categorised
JOC: We are discussing Price comparison prevention
TL: I had in annoying unwanted and wording
Discuss Misdirection that moves focus
Where form focus is jumping around
JA: If covered by an SC did we not say it should be removed?
JOC: Hard to tell the different between this an just poor focus management
Discuss Bait and switch
TL: Unsure of this, needs example
JOC: Sounds like clickbait issue?
TL: When buying something for price x, you get extra stuff added
And pay more for a product they didn't want to spend on.
JOC: Like an upsell by stealth
Discuss Twitter tweets of people you have blocked
TL: The user has to interact consciously - the user can ignore it and move on.
They need to interact to see the blocked account
Remove?
Discuss Pop up text boxes on websites
<Remove>
Discuss Subscription-based services that make you log in via a web browser
JOC: Is this not an acceptable pattern
JA: In banking you can go from the app to the website to change etc
This is a company choice.
All options cannot just be made available in the app.
JOC: Yeah, I've seen this in banking also
Discuss Close buttons which are obscured by size or colour choice
JA: Dont get it
JOC: Is this where a button is made very small
TL: Like mobile ads that are videos and they are obscured
JA: They are behind something
JOC: Thats done deliberately
JA: DIscusses example
JOC: Let come back to this - next.
Agenda next week
TL: Go thru the rest of this list
JOC: COGA upcoming Michael?
MC: Yes - will look into this?
JOC: Planning